Originally posted by Starscream M
this isn't just logan being faster than thor...which can be artistic depictionits the fact that thor admitted logan was faster.
Thor fans disagree, they think Thor was going to say "He's faster than I expected" or something like that.
Too bad for them that Logan later commented that "Creed" traded some speed for strength... 😉
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor fans disagree, they think Thor was going to say "He's faster than I expected" or something like that.Too bad for them that Logan later commented that "Creed" traded some speed for strength... 😉
I see it like this, the way Wolvy and Spidey use their speed is the key factor. Thor does just fine facing people that can fly through space at tremendous speeds, etc... Its just hard facing people that is blessed with agility and speed (along with Martial arts).
Originally posted by carver9Clearly it was the lack of martial arts training that doomed Quicksilver from the start:
I see it like this, the way Wolvy and Spidey use their speed is the key factor. Thor does just fine facing people that can fly through space at tremendous speeds, etc... Its just hard facing people that is blessed with agility and speed (along with Martial arts).
Originally posted by ankur29
Vs QuicksilverThor:"i have vanquished fleeter foes"
note that quicksilver is till on the floor even after Thor lets go of his grip lol
^ Clearly, Quicksilver's vastly slower in effectatious speed and reflexes without advanced martial arts training.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWClearly ninja training makes Wolverine more elusive than Quicksilver instead of Thor just foolishly assuming the ground pound took Wolverine out of the fight.
Logan didn't avoid the ground pound either. He ninja vanished after that and stabbed him in the back, but the shockwave did send him flying.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly, Quicksilver's vastly slower in effectatious speed and reflexes without advanced martial arts training. Clearly ninja training makes Wolverine more elusive than Quicksilver instead of Thor just foolishly assuming the ground pound took Wolverine out of the fight.
So quicksilver combine agility, speed, and Martial arts during battle or do he just run around every where?
Its pretty obvious Wolverine and Spidey use their speed in a different and better fashion than true speedsters when fighting opponents.
^ Clearly Thor intended and foresaw that the ground pound would give Wolverine an opportunity to strike him from behind... instead of y'know taking him out of the fight... clearly.
Originally posted by carver9No, definitely doesn't combine them. Clearly because he lacks martial arts acumen, so he was doomed to lose to Thor from the very beginning. Superspeed means nothing without martial arts skills, clearly.
So quicksilver combine agility, speed, and Martial arts during battle or do he just run around every where?Its pretty obvious Wolverine and Spidey use their speed in a different and better fashion than true speedsters when fighting opponents.
Clearly, unless speedsters have martial arts skills they cannot use speed effectively or react to ground pounds, clearly.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0just because thor has beat faster foes than quicksilver does not mean he is faster
Clearly it was the lack of martial arts training that doomed Quicksilver from the start:
wolverine has beaten foes far stronger, doesn't make logan stronger.
thor prob beat faster foes through skill....quicksilver is a jobber anyways.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly Thor intended and foresaw that the ground pound would give Wolverine an opportunity to strike him from behind... instead of y'know taking him out of the fight... clearly.No, definitely doesn't combine them. Clearly because he lacks martial arts acumen, so he was doomed to lose to Thor from the very beginning. Superspeed means nothing without martial arts skills, clearly.Clearly, unless speedsters have martial arts skills they cannot use speed effectively or react to ground pounds, clearly.
Like I said before, Wolvy and Spidey use their speed different than speedster.
I dont know why onedumb brought quicksilver up because I specifically said high heralds and Quicksilver isnt a high herald. He is trained on how to use his speed in ways a lot of HIGH HERALDS rarely use in combat.
I was using high heralds vs brick and Wolvy and Spidey vs Bricks. Spidey and Wolvy showings with using speeds are much more impressive.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Clearly, unless speedsters have martial arts skills they cannot use speed effectively or react to ground pounds, clearly.
How more effective would a speedstir be with MA training. I would think it would make them much more effective. For example many sports stars can run faster and even have faster reaction times then train MA's. However there ability to put it togather in a fight is farless effective. So though they are faster, there abilities to do so in a fight are far less effective due to lack of training. This could also explain on some level why speedstir at times fail against those slower then them selfs, it not due to there own speed, but there ability to put it to gather in a fight as effectivly as thoses who have trained there bodies to react and counter combativly on there highest level. It similar to why Batgirl apeares to be superhuman dispite having no such attributes.
Though this comment is off topic, your statement just got me wondering.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly Thor intended and foresaw that the ground pound would give Wolverine an opportunity to strike him from behind... instead of y'know taking him out of the fight... clearly.
"The tremors from my quake have thrown him back into the field. I saw him--"
He just didn't expect Logan to beat the distance that fast and jump him from behind.
^ Clearly, it was because of Wolverine's speed + ninja training >>>>>> Quicksilver's speed and not through Thor's own miscalculations, clearly.
Originally posted by carver9Clearly speedsters like Quicksilver cannot properly defend against ground pounds without ninja training, clearly. They suck at using speed without them, clearly.
Like I said before, Wolvy and Spidey use their speed different than speedster.I dont know why onedumb brought quicksilver up because I specifically said high heralds and Quicksilver isnt a high herald. He is trained on how to use his speed in ways a lot of HIGH HERALDS rarely use in combat.
I was using high heralds vs brick and Wolvy and Spidey vs Bricks. Spidey and Wolvy showings with using speeds are much more impressive.
Originally posted by Starscream MClearly too fast for him to do anything like grab his ankle and toss him or hit him with Mjolnir if Wolverine had just raked his back... clearly.
what're you babbling about?So you agree that thor admitted logan was too fast for him right?
