Thor vs Wolverine - Pure Melee Combat

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly, it was because of Wolverine's speed + ninja speed >>>>>> Quicksilver's speed and not through Thor's own miscalculations, clearly. Clearly speedsters like Quicksilver cannot properly defend against ground pounds without ninja training, clearly. They suck at using speed without them, clearly.

OMG, OneDumb, can you just debate and stop going in circles. I know where you are going with this but can you just spill it out without using reverse-psychology.

What I am basing this off of is high heralds vs bricks. I dont care about quicksilver. I'm asking you high heralds vs brick and Wolvy and Spidey vs Bricks. Do you see the difference between the two.

If you looked at the Thor vs Quicksilver fight, it really wasnt that. Quicksilver just stood there, he didnt run not once. If he moved from that spot (besides dodging the lightning) then you would have an argument.

I argued for quicksilver a long time ago. I said that he use his speed in a different fashion than people like Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter but THAT fight isnt helping your case.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Clearly, it was because of Wolverine's speed + ninja training >>>>>> Quicksilver's speed and not through Thor's own miscalculations, clearly. Clearly speedsters like Quicksilver cannot properly defend against ground pounds .

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Clearly too fast for him to do anything like grab his ankle and toss him or hit him with Mjolnir if Wolverine had just raked his back... clearly.

logan at his most feral and when attacking is too fast for thor

but that doesn't mean logan is ALWAYS too fast for thor...hopefully you can grasp the distinction

its true that logan isn't vastly faster...but when he is going all out, he is too fast for thor to handle.

thor without godspeed gets stabbed by logan.

Originally posted by carver9
OMG, OneDumb, can you just debate and stop going in circles. I know where you are going with this but can you just spill it out without using reverse-psychology.

What I am basing this off of is high heralds vs bricks. I dont care about quicksilver. I'm asking you high heralds vs brick and Wolvy and Spidey vs Bricks. Do you see the difference between the two.

If you looked at the Thor vs Quicksilver fight, it really wasnt that. Quicksilver just stood there, he didnt run not once. If he moved from that spot (besides dodging the lightning) then you would have an argument.

I argued for quicksilver a long time ago. I said that he use his speed in a different fashion than people like Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter but THAT fight isnt helping your case.

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol...what poor logic

logan at his most feral and when attacking is too fast for thor

but that doesn't mean logan is ALWAYS too fast for thor...hopefully you can grasp the distinction

its true that logan isn't vastly faster...but when he is going all out, he is too fast for thor to handle.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Clearly Quicksilver must run in strides rather than use superspeed to dodge lightning otherwise he isn't really using superspeed, clearly. Clearly too feral and fast for Thor to ever grab him and toss him or use a groundpound to upset his footing or hit him with Mjolnir when he's on his back... clearly.

LOL, OMG, just answer the question one dumb.

Can you answer the question that I also included in my post?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Clearly too feral and fast for Thor to ever grab him and toss him or use a groundpound to upset his footing or hit him with Mjolnir when he's on his back... clearly.

My point is just because thor has tagged logan doesn't mean that logan at his most feral isn't too fast for thor. logan doesn't fight at peak speed every second of a fight.

jeez, you're dense.

Originally posted by Starscream M
slaps forehead....you missed my whole point apparently.

My point is just because thor has tagged logan doesn't mean that logan at his most feral isn't too fast for thor. logan doesn't fight at peak speed every second of a fight.

jeez, you're dense.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
While full berserker he be at peak level speed the entire fight.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, OMG, just answer the question one dumb.

Can you answer the question that I also included in my post?

Originally posted by Starscream M
slaps forehead....you missed my whole point apparently.

My point is just because thor has tagged logan doesn't mean that logan at his most feral isn't too fast for thor. logan doesn't fight at peak speed every second of a fight.

jeez, you're dense.

Clearly Wolverine chose to turn off his speed (or, alternativey, turned off his ninja skills, for we all know that superspeed w/o ninja skills isn't really superspeed) at those precise two moments when Thor snagged him and hit him, clearly.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't think anyone fights at peak speeds for entire fights.

We can all see how Thor obviously has the capacity to grab Wolverine. Once that point in combat is reached, Thor under normal scenarios may throw Wolverine to connect with a hammer toss/lightning strike/exotic something or other, either for the purposes of flashiness or to face other opponents.

In this scenario, he doesn't have Mjolnir. He doesn't have other opponents, and flashiness is not a factor, just effectiveness.

So:

1) We can see that Thor can grab Wolverine
2) Throwing Wolverine away (unless for the purpose of BFR) would not happen

Thor uses Cl. 100 strength to swing Logan around like a ragdoll or ground-and-pound.

Thor wins.

Thor wins.

Originally posted by Original Smurph

Thor uses Cl. 100 strength to swing Logan around like a ragdoll or ground-and-pound.

Maybe Quicksilver was concussed after Thor's attack giving him a window to work between his and Quicksilver's speed gap. Wolverine has a healing factor, so you see, the situation are a little different.

Originally posted by Starscream M
has anyone ever done that to wolverine?

I forget that Logan's body obeys different physics than everybody else. Maybe it's the fist-deflecting shields that he has.

Originally posted by Starscream M
has anyone ever done that to wolverine?

Yeah, Roughouse.

Originally posted by Starscream M
has anyone ever done that to wolverine?

The Geech.

Originally posted by Starscream M
has anyone ever done that to wolverine?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Are you implying that Wolverine can not actually be swung around and/or punched while held?

I forget that Logan's body obeys different physics than everybody else. Maybe it's the fist-deflecting shields that he has.