Kain vs little Gauntlet

Originally posted by No End N Site
No, your reaching and you always do. You assume that just because his ending doesn't have him out in the day killing as soon as he gains his powers, he can't and that's BS. In his DS Revenge ending, it is clearly stated that he was stronger than ever before and went back to Makai to face Belial again.

I don't have to prove the exact PSI force involved in the Schalaphoton. It can shatter time and space with sheer force. Kain can not, nor can he even come close. He can do nothin' to harm Demitri and his spells are very weak from the looks of it. Kain would die if you threw him in a Kiddie Pool, ROFL. Demitri will only die from sunlight if he's severely weakened and wounded. You're aware that you suck at this, ya'know?

00Oh, the irony. You haven't played a single game in this thread. All you do is go on youtube and post vids of Kain's spells as he does them on weaklings and assume that his spell will work on folks who can kill him wit a single attack. Your an obsessed fanboi and troll for a character you have only seen on youtube. No wonder why you got banned. I posted my evidence sometime ago and you have shown nothin' that makes me think Kain can even scratch Demitri.

You just pretty much said exactly the same as I did to you, at least make your own arguments. Show the "revenge" ending.

It says nothing like that at all, it just knocks Demitri through dimensions, effectively BFR him. You dont have any idea how much time and space can take as a physical blow, and Belials attack is magic. Demitri is featless, by feats Kain can eaisly defeat Demitri with any of his spells, just rip out his soul for the lulz and a quick win. And no, poor try is poor. Thats not what stated, the FAQ points out that even at 80% he needed to shield himself from the sun 😆 only vampire children in LoK are vulnerable to sunlight.

Prove these assertions, I know more about any of these games and have played almost all of them. Youve played nothing, even DS is doubtful considering your relying on me providing the evidence.

OMG, your back on my ignore list.

Thank goodness for that, I knew you could never bring forth common sense and feats for your fanon.

I know you said unnecessary, so what ever, loser.

Thats not what stated, the FAQ points out that even at 80% he needed to shield himself from the sun laughing only vampire children in LoK are vulnerable to sunlight.

Having a weakness does not make you weak. 😬

No your right, being featless does. Its just amusing tiz all.

Originally posted by Burning thought
No your right, being featless does. Its just amusing tiz all.

Difference is, Kains spells have everything a feat gives Kain. They have a basis on what they do, and their direct and accurate in what they do. The only place where a feat is important for a spell is in its power level which in the case of most spells that I use concerning kain, is irrelevant.

Negative, everyone in round one has resisted magic more powerful than Kain's.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Speaking of featless, all of Kain's spells seem to be lacking. For someone so eager to pit him against such powerful enemies, you overlooked sort of a huge problem.

Lol, exactly

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negative, everyone in round one has resisted magic more powerful than Kain's.

How would you know? youve not even played most of their games as I have? 😉

They have not each resisted more powerful soul devouring powers, more powerful time powers. And I know for a fact none of them have faced blood devouring as its quite unique to Kain.

How would you know? youve not even played most of their games as I have?

Also, lulz. 'Blood devouring' requires some sort of special resistance now? Righto. Good thing Kain's never resisted... Anything, actually, come to think of it. Bloodshower needs to be able to damage the body it's attacking. If it's physical force, it's featless, if it's magical force, it's still featless. Ganondorf, the one I'm most knowledgable about, has resisted magic with real feats, like the light/fire/ice arrows. He's tanked massive physical force, too.

Kratos has done these as well, hades hooks, for example > Kain's featless soul theft. And he's more durable than any LoK enemy. Demetri is No End N Site's pet, I'll let him handle that.

Dante has tanked a soul suck in DMC3

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
For one: lol. For two: Everyone in round twq has dealt with magic that has actual *feats*. Kain's doesn't.

Also, lulz. 'Blood devouring' requires some sort of special resistance now? Righto. Good thing Kain's never resisted... Anything, actually, come to think of it. Bloodshower needs to be able to damage the body it's attacking. If it's physical force, it's featless, if it's magical force, it's still featless. Ganondorf, the one I'm most knowledgable about, has resisted magic with real feats, like the light/fire/ice arrows. He's tanked massive physical force, too.

Kratos has done these as well, hades hooks, for example > Kain's featless soul theft. And he's more durable than any LoK enemy. Demetri is No End N Site's pet, I'll let him handle that.

The powers dont need feats if the opponents are featless. If you cant protect your soul then your defeated, if you have no protection against being frozen in time then your chanceless, if you have nothing to stop a curse like blood shower from taking your blood then you are also doomed.

lol, Kains never resisted anything? on your vast 1 game of knowledge of LoK you surmised this on his overall character? amazing..... And your assuming this just like Moocow is, nothing is stated about actually damaging the body, the target is blood, your dead if your blood sprays throughout your body trying to get out, assuming the bloodshower does not magically form holes in your body for it to work which is more likely.

Ganondorf has resisted nothing like this, he has no time resistance, soul resistance and his blood would be fair game. The best he could hope to survie without damage is Kains little energy bolt.

Originally posted by Son of Sparda
Dante has tanked a soul suck in DMC3

He didnt tank any such thing, he had a little orb that not only slowly drained his soul at an unkown rate unlike Kains forceful rip. But also gave him a large amount of power in return.

The powers dont need feats if the opponents are featless.

lol, Kains never resisted anything? on your vast 1 game of knowledge of LoK you surmised this on his overall character? amazing.....

Also, you're missing the point. Body = designed to keep blood in. To get blood out, you need to do damage. This doesn't work on durable foes. Read: Ganon, Demetri, Kratos.

If it's somehow bypassing durability based on your blatantly fallacious assumption, it still deals with magic resistance, and won't work on people with that. Read: Kratos, Ganon, Demitri.

No feats for your abilities = not working on them.

Ganondorf has resisted nothing like this, he has no time resistance, soul resistance and his blood would be fair game. The best he could hope to survie without damage is Kains little energy bolt.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No one in round one is featless.
You seem pretty eager to provide examples, OHWAIT. I see none.

Also, you're missing the point. Body = designed to keep blood in. To get blood out, you need to do damage. This doesn't work on durable foes. Read: Ganon, Demetri, Kratos.

If it's somehow bypassing durability based on your blatantly fallacious assumption, it still deals with magic resistance, and won't work on people with that. Read: Kratos, Ganon, Demitri.

No feats for your abilities = not working on them.

I lol'd. Got a feat for any of those powers yet? Ganon's a man, tanks light arrows, and totally ignores fire and ice arrows.

yes they are, they dont actually have resistance but you would not know this, as youve not played the games.

How about resisting whats effectively a re-creation of the strongest feat of the trueforce without harm? in his weakest form no less.

No, this is if your using a physical force. Kain is not, Kain is using sorcery to bypass physical damage and Ganon and Kratos would still die from blood going wild in their system even if for some reason Kains magic could not affect their bodies.

lol, they dont have resistance against a power of this type.

So he has resistance against the elements, fire ice and possibly divine light. Thats nice, but kains not using those elemetns, hes using others.

yes they are, they dont actually have resistance but you would not know this, as youve not played the games.

No, this is if your using a physical force. Kain is not, Kain is using sorcery to bypass physical damage and Ganon and Kratos would still die from blood going wild in their system even if for some reason Kains magic could not affect their bodies.

fire ice and possibly divine light

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I see a claim, but no evidence. I gave examples of them showing resistance, did you just ignore them? Yeah, you did.
Speaking of, half the characters in round one are from games you've never played. Hah.
Baseless [b]assumption with no evidence to back it. It's either magical damage or physical damage, damage must be done to a body to get the blood out. No assumptions. featless spell + durable and resistant characters = useless spell.
Actually, divine light is super effective, but Ganon's so awesome he can take it, you think featless spells will do anything at all? haermm Gee, when the thing MOST effective against him, divine light, which has feats and evidence to support it's power (Disintegrating evil beings, and being the most powerful of the magic arrows which have incredible feats like freezing active volcanoes in an instant..), doesn't put him down, how will a featless spell he's not weak to work? It. Won't. [/B]

No you didnt, you gave examples of Ganons feats which are inadequate. Meh Demitri doesnt count, hes got a couple of screen prints as his storyline and a game faq translated from Japanese books.

Its not assumption, Kain is using magic not physical force. This is an assumption however, your making an assertion and not backing it up. They have no resistance to it at all, they have not even faced anything like it, they die.

Featless spells with accurate power and meaning vs a Ganon who has no resistances=dead Ganon. And "disintegrating evil beings" is no more a feat than "draining blood" is for Blood shower. He is weak to it because he has no idea what it is, he loses his soul, gets frozen in time or loses his blood and wont have a chance to defend.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Demetri is No End N Site's pet, I'll let him handle that.

You can count Demitri as one of the charactres in this thread who has dealt wit magic more powerful than Kain's. Belial Aensland is a clear example.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
IX. Nobles of Makai

The Three High Noble's who ruled Makai

Belial, the master of the Aensland family - The strongest man in Makai

Known as the demon king/devil, he is the true ruler of Makai. He stood
higher than 200m, had four arms and four eye's(two eye's are on the palm of
his hands). He is the guardian and parent of Morrigan of the succubus race.
Compared to others, he is treated special due to the fact that he has the
strongest raw power within him. His power is comparable to several hundred
thousand Makai beasts or is equal to several hundred A class Makai nobles
like Demitri. his physical power is, in theory, the strongest.
His body is constantly covered with a thin barrier. This barrier can stand
up to one million degrees Celsius. A normal Makai being would perish the
moment they come into contact with it. He seals two out of his four arms to
contain his power. In the past, he has unsealed all four of his arms. It was
said that he killed 200 Makai nobles with a swing of his arm. He use's an
attack called the "Scalephoton" which emits a highly compressed arrow of
magic at a high speed at it's victims. This attack would even kill Galnan
and Jedah if it were to hit them. He had used a low powered warning shot
against Demitri 100 years ago.
Even though he had incredible power, he never showed any interest in ruling
Makai. This didn't mean that he had no greed or ambition. To him, Makai was
part of his body and his body itself. The thought of trying to rule his own
hands and feet never came out. Even though no one doubted Belial's rule, the
struggle for power within Makai had never ended.
When Belial had won victory over Demitri by ripping Demitri's castle and
the gate into human world. But damaging space itself had also damaged Belial's
body. His powers had slowly started to diminish. But everyone, who had enough
power to take advantage of this situation, like Jedah and Galnan had already
died. There existed no one in Makai who could threaten his rule.(Ozom had
proclaimed himself as the emperor of Makai but his powers were far below
Belial's).
When Belial's powers are completely diminished, the very balance of Makai
would fall apart.

He didnt deal with it, he was smashed out through a dimension, as was his castle. And he was coffin ridden for 50 years if not more trying to survive.