Originally posted by SamZEDSo being as strong as luke cage can stand up the juggernaut like he did? 😂 If you were as strong as him juggs would just push you around any way he felt like but that's not the case here.
In other words examples that are convenient to you you recognise but the ones you dont like you ignore. Hulk might as well be as strong as Luke Cage because his punches would be equelly useless against Juggernaut's shields. So your "he's in the league" doesnt make it less of a BS excuse since he just like anyone else cant hurt Juggernaut physically. As fr bfr it doesnt even take Colossus level of strength to sidestep like that, yet I doubt you'd give Colossus the win. So what's the difference? Colossus also might bfr Juggs the same and his attacks would also be useless against Juggs. He also takes the majority in your book? Truth is that was a PISy excuse to save Hulk's ass from beating. Sorry, but its either one way or another, either admit that was PIS or accept all bad writing and PIS events for a fact and never argue against say SG being >>> Thanos on the forum since it "happened" in the book.
And that doesn't scream PIS to you?😬 Seriously? Again. Strange - snaps fingers. Hulk - dies. Anything beyond that and especially Hulk winning - happens for the sake of a story.Yeah, except Juggernaut DID overpower him. He was the one who pushed Hulk back, its a fact. They were standing and Juggernaut in order to make the first step had to push Hulk back and he did it. And Juggernaut would have won if it wasn't for the bfr and Hulk leaving because he was in a "rush" iow didn't want to get his ass kicked since he knows he cant do jack to Juggernaut. Also make up your mind sometimes you say Hulk is obviously stronger, then you say they were evenly matched in strength. I say Juggernaut was clearly shown to be stronger and the book back me up.
And it takes years of karate training and learning space martial arts in order to just grab a physically inferior guy and toss him into space or another country?😬 Again, Juggernaut is physically capable of bfring Hulk just as ease or even easier and smarts has nothing to do with it, even mmore so has nothing to do with MA skills. So my qestion stands, please explain to me why is it impossible to bfr Hulk?
Now you're just getting desperate, unless by "beat him again" you mean knocked him out with his bare hands, which he didn't, you got nothing. All he did was beat a depowered Juggs who was Colossus level at best. Yay for him, so there's no "again". There's only Juggernaut owning Hulk in the past, Juggernaut as easilly hurting WWH with his punches as he hurt any other Hulk and Hulk gettin his ass saved from Juggernaut via a ridiclulous bfr just so the hero of the story would make it to the end of the story alive. So this is another claim you'll have to back up- What makes you think Juggernaut cant ko Hulk physically seeing how his punches hurt him just like they hurt any other version of the Hulk?
You repeating "WWH all day" without explaining it doesn't help your case either. It's as possible that Juggernaut will BFR Hulk and you failed to explain why that can't happen. We already established that your "happened in the book" argument can be said about lotsa stuff including SG owing Thanos so unless you can back your claim up there's no reason to believe that Juggernuat cant bfr Hulk, common sense says he can. As for "getting angry enough" argument no offence but its ridiculous and hundreds of miles away from "common sense". Its you speculation nothing else. You have no proof that WWH can physically get through the cytorak spell, through shields and invulnerability when attacks well beyong Hulk's punches failed to do so. Even concidering that as an option screams "bias". Again, ill repeat myself givving you another chance to try and prove any of it wrong:
"Both can BFR, Their speed roughly =, their skills roughly =, their strength roughly =, yet Juggernaut CAN and HAS hurt and koed Hulk while Hulk CAN'T hurt or ko Juggernaut." The outcome - Juggernaut owning Hulk -is clear to anyone who's not biased here. All the things ive mentioned are FACTS. All you got is one pathetic bfr that happened for the sake of story anyway and speculation that Hulk can beat the magic of cytorak with with a punch. So unless you provide better arguments I dont see a reason for you to post at all tbh..
What don't you get here? Hulk's increasing powers or the fact he appeared as an equal to Juggs initially or the fact the longer the stronger goes the stronger the Hulk tends to get. It takes above colossus strength to hold your ground like he did so you actng as if he just immediately bfr'd him is another attempt at ignoring what actually happened in the comic. You do this well.
It's not recognized to marvel. It also happened off panel. This has nothing to do with anything so please address the topic at hand.
I acknowledge Hulk loses to Strange so what's your problem? Are you still upset of how it went down in the actual book? Laughs.
The writer stated they were equal in the book and that their moment was being redirected underground.
Here is Tom b. from marvel stating over time Hulk is stronger and since this Hulk already as equal to Juggs strength my scenario is what would indeed happen.
http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=hulk-2010031206401326
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Juggs didn't hurt WW JHulk at all and the two mutant teams which were beaten by Hulk in this story hurt him far more than Juggs and Juggs actually fought him directly after so he even had the benefit of a not so fresh Hulk and still lost twice. Juggs is stupid if he thinks at Colossus level strength he can take on the Hulk so you just backed me up with how stupid he is. Thanks.
When has Juggs bfr'd Hulk in the past let alone the fact this is WW Hulk and he bfr'd Juggs. I guess if Superman ko's Marvel there is just as much proof Marvel ko's Superman in your world of weirdo reasoning and biased debating.
Sg happened off panel and it's not recognized. Off panel means we didn't see the fight while we did see the ww hulk fight making your example and your point moot.
WW Hulk can bfr him very easily as we have already seen. If a pretty bird flys by it could distract Juggs enough for Hulk to bfr him again as his focus is nowhere near WW Hulk's. Oh yeah and the fact WW Hulk gets stronger since his base is equal to Juggs and we have tom b admit that Hulk himself is stronger when angry. So I guesss I just rubbed your face in the mud on this one and have actual marvel people supporting my views while you have your own warped views of what counts and what doesn't.
Originally posted by SamZEDOnly a fool would argue that ww hulk showed anything other than hulk's superiority over juggs. Still waiting on you to back your case.
50 posts and you still failed to disprove any of my arguments and failed to provide any of your own. Yeah, you totally "won"..😬
