Pokeverse v.s. FFverse

Started by NemeBro30 pages

Sin, although you are correct in the outcome of this thread, your argument really sucks. 😬

Fang alone can kill the Legendaries? Really?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You assumed that if the party can't take the hits, the legendary Pokemon couldn't. Doesn't matter though anyway since you still based killing power on gameplay.

While the elemental legendaries have positive status effects, they don't have any recover, at least not one that doesn't involve taking a rest and becoming more vulnerable.


Lol. If it's so powerful how can it be kept as a child? I'm sure MewTwo can beat him.

The gods created him so they could prevent him from aging further. Mewtwo is not stopping Darkja because his psychic power doesn't work on dark elements. If we using XII International, Zodiark can restore all of his lost health and speed himself with Hastega.


You're so wrong here its absolutely incredible. 😆

I shouldn't even be bothering with you. Why I am is beyond me.

So tell me, why would Dialga and Palkia obey a weaker being?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sin, although you are correct in the outcome of this thread, your argument really sucks. 😬

Fang alone can kill the Legendaries? Really?

Don't worry, she has Bahamut on her side.

I'll admit that the legendary beasts, Regice, and Registeel would be trouble. I also didn't say all legendaries. Just the trios.

It could be a single Lugia and your argument would still suck.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
While the elemental legendaries have positive status effects, they don't have any recover, at least not one that doesn't involve taking a rest and becoming more vulnerable.

Why would they even need to recover?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The gods created him so they could prevent him from aging further. Mewtwo is not stopping Darkja because his psychic power doesn't work on dark elements. If we using XII International, Zodiark can restore all of his lost health and speed himself with Hastega.

Lol no. MewTwo's psychic power doesn't work on Dark type Pokemon. Now you're being an idiot. He cannot have the benefits of a Dark type without the weaknesses associated.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
So tell me, why would Dialga and Palkia obey a weaker being?

Red Chain. If I recall it was something that used to be a part of Arceus, but he broke it up when he created the Lake Guardians trio.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Why would they even need to recover?

Because Barthandelus can make them all near death pretty fast. It even has Doom to make sure one doesn't escape death.


Lol no. MewTwo's psychic power doesn't work on Dark type Pokemon. Now you're being an idiot. He cannot have the benefits of a Dark type without the weaknesses associated.

How am I being an idiot? Psychic Pokemon are weak against dark type attacks and Darkja happens to be over them all. Mewtwo is not surviving it. Hell, he was defeated by two small robots. Let's see them both try to take on Sin.

How am I being an idiot? Psychic Pokemon are weak against dark type attacks and Darkja happens to be over them all. Mewtwo is not surviving it. Hell, he was defeated by two small robots. Let's see them both try to take on Sin.
Assuming dark in FF is like Dark in Pokemon, first idiotic part of this. Taking the advantage of dark type without the disadvantage, IE, trying to have it both ways, is the second part.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Assuming dark in FF is like Dark in Pokemon, first idiotic part of this. Taking the advantage of dark type without the disadvantage, IE, trying to have it both ways, is the second part.

As if Mewtwo's only means of attack are Psychic...🙄

Also, Protect.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Assuming dark in FF is like Dark in Pokemon, first idiotic part of this. Taking the advantage of dark type without the disadvantage, IE, trying to have it both ways, is the second part.

1. Right, because we all know Charmander would survive a flood since it's not a Pokemon attack. 😆

2. Have you even played the Pokemon games? Even in the anime, are Pokemon that use attacks that are not of their type (i.e. Pikachu's Iron Tail, Rhydon's Horn Drill, Mewtwo's Shadow Ball).

3. Pokemon weaknesses don't apply to FF characters or any non-Pokemon characters.

1. Why would a flood be dangerous? The only reason it would be is if it put out the flame on the end of it's tail, which we know doesn't need oxygen anyway, as Charizard's been fully submerged in lava for several seconds and been totally unharmed. Charmanders also probably need to drink water to survive. 😬

Now, prove FF dark = Pokemon dark? You can't just say the name is similar and hope for a type advantage.

2. I'm a competitive player, what do you think? Pokemon using different type attacks doesn't allow you to attempt to take advantages without disadvantages.
3. Then neither do advantages. You cannot have it both ways.

Pretty sure Charizard has actually been totally submerged in water and his tail did not go out.

I would think that Pokemon Dark-type is merely negative energy, negative thinking (Dark Pulse), moves of a sinful or mischievous nature (like Thief or Embargo, bad description, I know) etc.

Pokemon typing can be whacked a bit. In the show, Grass-type used to not hurt rock at all, now it does.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
In the show, Grass-type used to not hurt rock at all, now it does.

Grass is super-effective to Rock since Gen II

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Grass is super-effective to Rock since Gen II

I'm a Gen 1 man.

When has grass not been super effective against rock? confused1

I think there are episodes where razor leaf does absolutely nothing to Onix or something.

Huh...that's strange. Cause the anime does have people saying grass pwns rock. Maybe a strong rock type or something. lol shouldn't have hopes for the anime being competent.

"Both of Ash's pokemon are water types and they're totally weak against fire type."

Yeah, that's what I meant by, "Grass-type used to not hurt rock at all, now it does."

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Why would a flood be dangerous? The only reason it would be is if it put out the flame on the end of it's tail, which we know doesn't need oxygen anyway, as Charizard's been fully submerged in lava for several seconds and been totally unharmed. Charmanders also probably need to drink water to survive. 😬

1. You just answered why a Charmander wouldn't survive. They're not meant for water just like a Rhydon wouldn't survive.

2. Lava isn't water.


Now, prove FF dark = Pokemon dark? You can't just say the name is similar and hope for a type advantage.

You're just being a fanboy because a FF summon has a clear advantage over a Nintendo character. If Dark Pulse can hurt Mewtwo, so can Dark, Darkra, Darkga, and Darkja. They are all of the dark element and do damage.

A Charizard would be hurt by a Waterga just as much as a Venusaur would be against Mario's fireballs.


2. I'm a competitive player, what do you think? Pokemon using different type attacks doesn't allow you to attempt to take advantages without disadvantages.

The only disadvantage is STAB and that's a gameplay mechanic.


3. Then neither do advantages. You cannot have it both ways.

Yes you can. You're just too much of a Nintendo fanboy to see it.

Lol? Call him a fanboy when he asks you to prove something. That works. No, it totally does. I mean, all you have to do is claim fanboy and you win the thread.

Sin Volvagia is an FF fanboy. Pokemans win. 👆

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
1. You just answered why a Charmander wouldn't survive. They're not meant for water just like a Rhydon wouldn't survive.

2. Lava isn't water.

1. Pokemon are weak to water when it's shot with force. Tyranitar have been completely submerged in water, Pretty sure Charizard has as well. Both were fine.

2. Lava would cut off the oxygen to the flame, putting it out. Obviously though, it takes more than a separation from oxygen to put out the flame on Charizard's tail.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
You're just being a fanboy because a FF summon has a clear advantage over a Nintendo character. If Dark Pulse can hurt Mewtwo, so can Dark, Darkra, Darkga, and Darkja. They are all of the dark element and do damage.

A Charizard would be hurt by a Waterga just as much as a Venusaur would be against Mario's fireballs.

Prove its the same Dark element. And who said Dark Pulse can hurt MewTwo? I believe we see both Mew and MewTwo taking Shadow Balls from each other in the movie.

Waterga have any force behind it?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The only disadvantage is STAB and that's a gameplay mechanic.

STAB goes beyond a gameplay mechanic. Fire types are naturally better at using Fire type attacks, as are Water better with Water moves, and Grass with Grass.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Yes you can. You're just too much of a Nintendo fanboy to see it.

🙄

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Lol? Call him a fanboy when he asks you to prove something. That works. No, it totally does. I mean, all you have to do is claim fanboy and you win the thread.

Sin Volvagia is an FF fanboy. Pokemans win. 👆

I'm not a FF fanboy. I just don't believe nonsense like Giratina raping the FFverse since it shows no capability of doing so and Arceus being uber since it showed nothing at the level of Sin.


1. Pokemon are weak to water when it's shot with force. Tyranitar have been completely submerged in water, Pretty sure Charizard has as well. Both were fine.

Water magic in FF causes damage and not just against enemies that are weak against it. Charizard in submerged in water in the anime? According to you, that's the weaker version when in reality. In the games, that's different.


2. Lava would cut off the oxygen to the flame, putting it out. Obviously though, it takes more than a separation from oxygen to put out the flame on Charizard's tail.

It's still a fire type.


Prove its the same Dark element. And who said Dark Pulse can hurt MewTwo? I believe we see both Mew and MewTwo taking Shadow Balls from each other in the movie.

Are we picking games or the anime? CHoose one and stick with it. In the games, Mewtwo would get heavily damaged by a Shadow Ball. Darkja is stronger than Shadow Ball and causes blindness and possible Instant Death.


Waterga have any force behind it?

It damages anybody unless they have immunity to it.


STAB goes beyond a gameplay mechanic. Fire types are naturally better at using Fire type attacks, as are Water better with Water moves, and Grass with Grass.

No, it is a game mechanic. Do you honestly believe Tauros can use a horn attack better than Nidoking just because it's a normal type?