Collateral Murder vid

Started by inimalist10 pages
Originally posted by dadudemon
Tangent: I, sadly, don't have as much knowledge about India's history as I would like. My knowledge of India is greatly lacking.

Indian nationalism/Hindu nationalism, one of the leading political movements in India, is based largely on a reaffirmation of traditional indian values, anti-muslim ideas, and anti-colonial self-affirmation.

Ideas that are popular with these individuals are things like "the atom bomb was predicted in the Gitas", and other things that conclude that all things started in India.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But it fits so well, at times. The information age is great and spreading memes.

its good at increasing the human propencity for spreading memes 😉

I don't think technology has evolved to the point where it is independantly spreading memes yet, but soon for sure.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You can create your own version of colonialism and call it Corporate Colonialism. In fact, it's real.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2003-04-22/news/corporate-colonialism/

oh, i know...

one of my big problems with sociology is the naming of all these theories. Foucout's "biopolitics" drove me nuts.

I don't like the generalizations it produces, I don't like how it essentalizes history... blah, but yes, I know of "corporate colonialism"

Originally posted by inimalist
Indian nationalism/Hindu nationalism, one of the leading political movements in India, is based largely on a reaffirmation of traditional indian values, anti-muslim ideas, and anti-colonial self-affirmation.

Ideas that are popular with these individuals are things like "the atom bomb was predicted in the Gitas", and other things that conclude that all things started in India.

Sounds interesting. I should probably take an Indian History class for shits and giggles.

Originally posted by inimalist
its good at increasing the human propencity for spreading memes 😉

I don't think technology has evolved to the point where it is independantly spreading memes yet, but soon for sure.

How dare you twist my words into something more correct.

And, at that second part, you mean the singularity? awesome

Originally posted by inimalist
oh, i know...

one of my big problems with sociology is the naming of all these theories. Foucout's "biopolitics" drove me nuts.

I don't like the generalizations it produces, I don't like how it essentalizes history... blah, but yes, I know of "corporate colonialism"

lol Figures. You're more knowledgeable about Political Science than I am. I should probably be asking you about Corporate Colonialism. facepalm

YouTube video

Excellent summary of the events and an analysis by an Army spokesperson and the owner of Wikileaks, the site that first published the video.

It is unfortunate that there is no independant analyist, and that the Wikileaks representative has such an obvious bias against the American military, but if you sort of average what the one says against the other there seems to be a good "middle ground". Its bad, because the army guy is clearly practiced, he knows where to admit failure so that you give him the benefit of the doubt when he says "oh ya, that blurred thing is an RPG" or "we know they didn't want to kill any innocent people", and because of this, he seems so much more unbiased in the end, though he smacks of appoligistics.

At the end, there is footage from another Apache that was called into a nearby neighbourhood later in the day, which launches 2 missiles into a crowded building on a crowded street because it appeared someone who might have had a gun went in. The chatter is actually REALLY bad, like, 15 year olds on X-Box live bad...

The conclusions seem to be that modern arial warfare is too detached, and as such cause situations where people act like they are playing a game. They both also emphasize that the soldiers themselves, especially in the first video, were in incredible stressful situations where such action may or may not have been encouraged, and its is more a fault of poor decision making by higherups and callous disregard for civilian populations than trigger happy individuals. Though, in my analysis, the later video, though I haven't seen an unedited version, looks way more like it is just that.

Hope someone was interested, lol

ive seen a movie were a grenade was thrown into a camp and the commander officer threw a soilder on it to protect himself.

have any of you army guys here done that?

and so, after intense international scrutiny and promises to get to the heart of the manner, the American armed forces have finally taken punitive action against the heinous actors in this scandal.

that's right, army specialist Bradley Manning is charged with leaking classified documents to wikileaks.

we can all rest better knowing he will never again show the world how malicious the US army truly is

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/07/20107724413526677.html

Oh there's already a thread about this

lol, I like the cut of your jib parmaniac

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, I like the cut of your jib parmaniac
jib?