ROTJ Luke Skywalker Vs Barriss Offee

right, and if you say the sky is green what can i say to override that.

thats... nice. i dont see what it has to do with this debate though.

regardless, the correct answer is that if you say its very skillful and tactical then that just proves that you dont know much about swordfighting, or fighting in general. so it hardly matters.

To fight you don't always need a lightsaber. There are other means to fight such as in ESB when Vader was throwing crap at Luke with the Force. If Luke started throwing junk at Offee during a scrap, Offee would be distracted, then it would be an easy kill.

You have to be kidding Marvel. Your interpretation of what you see on screen is now canon? When has that EVER held any weight on this website?

wut? im not sure i follow your logic. the films are considered primary canon. so... how am i in the wrong for following what the films show?

Not true Marvel. Luke was more than holding than his own against Vader especially at the end. He even handed his lightsaber to him, but when Vader pissed him off about Leia, Luke ripped through his (Vader's) Force shield and grabbed his lightsaber and handed Vader's ass to him.

Now, if that doesn't demonstrate Luke's power or lightsaber skills, then what does? Offee simply doesn't stand a chance.

The film shows Luke acting like an idiot and swinging his lightsaber like a baseball bat with no finesse or skill at all.

he defeated vader by swinging his sword in a frenzied haste like ray Charles at a a pinata festival. doesnt speak well for vader in that moment either.

though to be fair, post RotS vader's forte has never been with lightsabers, more with his powerful command of the force.

Besides me and a few others has anyone read RoTJ? In the book Force Unleashed, Galen Marek stated that he (Vader) combined the forms Ataru, Djem So and I think Soresu (correct me if I'm wrong). Luke defeated a Vader utilizing the 'swinging like a baseball bat' form? So can anyone explain to me how Luke was able to defeat that lightsaber form?

I don't know what form Luke used, but he would be able to defeat to his superiority in the Force and lightsaber. A rank and file Jedi like Offee can't.

obviously, vaders knowledge of those forms wasnt enough to overcome luke's frenzied retard charge. i watched the video again, it looks as if luke almost stumbles at 3:16 😂

losing to luke really is pretty much vaders lowest point in the whole series.

and again translucent, thats an a>b>c argument

Some of that simply has to be chalked up to choerography at the time. They *were* supposed to be skilled fighters going at it.

possibly. personally, i could only see that with vader. from the movie standpoint luke never received formal training with the lightsaber. obi-wan died before he could train him, yoda died before he could train him. so from where could luke learn PT level training in two or so years? it makes perfect sense that he'd have to resort to swinging the thing around like a bat.

Vader was pretty heavily holding back against Luke and Luke only caught him by surprise with a sudden burst of the darkside amp. ROTJ Luke isn't even close to Vaders level.

Heck, when Celeste Morne fought him she scoffed at the very notion that he was a jedi and curbstomped him. He really isn't that great in swordsmanship.

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Choreography back then was terrible, just look at the original trilogy, then look at the new one, that's obvious. Read the books and comics, and you'll see that while Vader could no longer perform the flashy Ataru like usual, he mixed a few styles and dominated based on height, raw power, skill, and bursts of speed you wouldn't expect from him.

I'm not saying Luke would stomp, but he would take a majority over Barriss.

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Originally posted by Galan007
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i do not remember that segment happening that way in the novel at all 0_0

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.... he's referring to her fight with luke.

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.... he's referring to her fight with luke.

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context.

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