Enough!
Link, stop doing that, it's exeedingly childish and it can be constituted as trolling and spamming.
Paste has the pokedex entries to verify his claim. By the KMC VG VS rules, he has the edge until you provide something equally valid.
The Nidoking pokedex entry is unsubstantiated as a NO LIMITS FALLACY by the forum rules, it is inadmissable until such time as he has feats to back the entry.
Ty's 'dex entry requires no such substance and stands alone becuase it is LIMITED. Please understand the difference.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkNo limit fallacy. Also, being unstoppable =/= invincible.
Pokedex claims Nidoking is unstoppable, meaning Tyranitar cant stop him. Ggs.Togepi didn't use metronome. 😬 Also, crushing mountains with Earthquake is not a durability feat.
Pokedex says Tyranitar wins, therefore, he does. Concede, or atleast get quiet and stop making illogical claims.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No limit fallacy. Also, being unstoppable =/= invincible.Pokedex says Tyranitar wins, therefore, he does. Concede, or atleast get quiet and stop making illogical claims.
No, pokedex and the games declare Nidoking walks all over Tyranitar. Bring proof, or sit down guys.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkThe pokedex flat out states how strong they are. Nidoking's feats are in no way comparable. The games, by way of pokedex and power scaling, point to Tyranitar as the clear winner. He's been alotted a semi-legendary stat-total and some really ridiculous feats. Nidoking's feats are small time by comparison.
No, pokedex and the games declare Nidoking walks all over Tyranitar. Bring proof, or sit down guys.
The games and pokedex are one in the same, and inseperable, nothing in the games indicated Nidoking wins.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
How? where does it say this?List Nidokings 'Dex entries, and then show me how Nidoking wins based off this, and gameplay mechanics are a no go.
Red It uses its powerful tail in battle to smash, constrict, then break the prey's bones.
Blue It uses its powerful tail in battle to smash, constrict, then break the prey's bones.
Yellow Its steel-like hide adds to its powerful tackle. Its horns are so hard, they can pierce a diamond.
Stadium Has a rock-hard hide that is worn like armor. The long horn on its head is sharp and highly venomous.
II Gold It swings its big tail around during battle. If its foe flinches, it will charge with its sturdy body.
Silver Its tail is thick and powerful. If it binds an enemy, it can snap the victim's spine quite easily.
Crystal It uses its thick arms, legs and tail to attack forcefully. Melee combat is its specialty.
Stadium 2 It swings its big tail around during battle. If its foe flinches, it will charge with its sturdy body.
III Ruby Nidoking's thick tail packs enormously destructive power. With one swing, it can topple a metal transmission tower. Once this Pokémon goes on a rampage, there is no stopping it.
Sapphire Nidoking's thick tail packs enormously destructive power. With one swing, it can topple a metal transmission tower. Once this Pokémon goes on a rampage, there is no stopping it.
Emerald A Nidoking's thick tail packs enormously destructive power capable of toppling a metal transmission tower. Once it goes on a rampage, there is no stopping it.
FireRed It is recognized by its rock-hard hide and its extended horn. Be careful with the horn as it contains venom.
LeafGreen It uses its powerful tail in battle to smash, constrict, then break the prey's bones.
IV Diamond One swing of its mighty tail can snap a telephone pole as if it were a matchstick.
Pearl One swing of its mighty tail can snap a telephone pole as if it were a matchstick.
Platinum One swing of its mighty tail can snap a telephone pole as if it were a matchstick.
HeartGold It swings its big tail around during battle. If its foe flinches, it will charge with its sturdy body.
SoulSilver Its tail is thick and powerful. If it binds an enemy, it can snap the victim's spine quite easily.
Tyranitar:
Gold Its body can't be harmed by any sort of attack, so it is very eager to make challenges against enemies.
Silver Extremely strong, it can change the landscape. It has an insolent nature that makes it not care about others.
Crystal In just one of its mighty hands, it has the power to make the ground shake and mountains crumble.
Stadium 2 Its body can't be harmed by any sort of attack, so it is very eager to make challenges against enemies.
III Ruby Tyranitar is so overwhelmingly powerful, it can bring down a whole mountain to make its nest. This Pokémon wanders about in mountains seeking new opponents to fight.
Sapphire Tyranitar is so overwhelmingly powerful, it can bring down a whole mountain to make its nest. This Pokémon wanders about in mountains seeking new opponents to fight.
Emerald A Tyranitar is so overwhelmingly powerful, it can bring down a whole mountain to make its nest. It roams in mountains seeking new opponents to fight.
FireRed Extremely strong, it can change the landscape. It has an insolent nature that makes it not care about others.
LeafGreen Its body can't be harmed by any sort of attack, so it is very eager to make challenges against enemies.
IV Diamond If it rampages, it knocks down mountains and buries rivers. Maps must be redrawn afterward.
Pearl If it rampages, it knocks down mountains and buries rivers. Maps must be redrawn afterward.
Platinum If it rampages, it knocks down mountains and buries rivers. Maps must be redrawn afterward.
HeartGold Its body can't be harmed by any sort of attack, so it is very eager to make challenges against enemies.
SoulSilver Extremely strong, it can change the landscape. It has an insolent nature that makes it not care about others.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The pokedex flat out states how strong they are. Nidoking's feats are in no way comparable. The games, by way of pokedex and power scaling, point to Tyranitar as the clear winner. He's been alotted a semi-legendary stat-total and some really ridiculous feats. Nidoking's feats are small time by comparison.The games and pokedex are one in the same, and inseperable, nothing in the games indicated Nidoking wins.
1. Strength =/= durabilty
2. Psuedo-legendary isn't even a term used in the games (that I know of, anyway), and Tyranitar is only given it by players.
3. Nothing in the game indicates that Nidoking wins, except for his moves set, Ty's typing and no-limits pokedex entry.
The fact of the matter is that Ty just doesn't have the proof to back up his claims. I suppose you would argue that Ty could beat Arceus, too?
The fact of the matter is that Ty just doesn't have the proof to back up his claims. I suppose you would argue that Ty could beat Arceus, too?
Lol? I just posted the proof, and no, Tyranitar could not beat the pokemon Creator of the freaking universe, for obvious reasons. 😐
Also, ever hear "For every action there is a reaction"? In order to destroy a mountain, Tyranitar needs to be atleast durable to survive exerting that much strength. Zomg, logic.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkmariofacepalm
Well, it's 2 no limits fallacies against each other. For the 3rd time, how about a tie?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
mariofacepalm
No, because I'm not using Tyranitar's no-limit fallacy. 😐 He doesn't need it. And against Arceus, who created [b]time and space, and the universe, you need more fire-power than it takes to flatten a mountain. [/B]
Oh, so you admit that Nidoking will damage Tyranitar?
Ok, reading both pokedex entiry lists, it becomes even more clear to me. ty wins this by a good 3 orders of magnitude by strength alone.
@link: You do realise that he has to survive the power of his own attacks right? So yes, strength does in fact = durability in this case.
Nidoking's pokedex entry does not warrant the allowance of that no limits fallacy at all. Remember, 'Dex entries are written by researchers in the field no? the Term "nothing can stop it" is probably in refference to what was in the area. But witnessing landscape changes by the efforts of a single Pokemon, and rewriting maps because of it is a substantial feat, and is therefore backed.
i'm sorry, but unless we're talking like a level 12 ty and a level 17 NK, then there's no way NK could get passed that strength level (I used a EXp level there because lets face it a level 12 Ty wouldn't be very strong physically, whereas a level 95 fighting a level 100 NK would be childsplay for Tyranitar.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThank you, sir, I see we are in agreement.
Ok, reading both pokedex entiry lists, it becomes even more clear to me. ty wins this by a good 3 orders of magnitude by strength alone.@link: You do realise that he has to [b]survive
the power of his own attacks right? So yes, in most cases strength does in fact = durability in this case.Nidoking's pokedex entry does not warrant the allowance of that no limits fallacy at all. Remember, 'Dex entries are written by researchers in the field no/ the term "nothing can stop it" is probably in refference to the area. But witnessing landscape changes by the efforts of a single Pokemon, and rewriting maps because of it is a substantial feat, and is therefore backed.
i'm sorry, but unless we're talking like a level 12 ty and a level 17 NK, then there's no way NK could get passed that strength level (I used a EXp level there because lets face it a level 12 Ty wouldn't be very strong physically, whereas a level 95 fighting a level 100 NK would be childsplay for Tyranitar. [/B]