Mountains make diamonds under pressure dude.... When you can actually level that much weight worth of stone in a single hit, it won't matter how tough the diamond is, it'll shatter because of all that pressure moving around it.
Now, lets assume for just an inkling that Nidoking's entire external skin was able to withstand mountain crushing blows. That still won't save him. No amount of armour can save you when your insides get pulverised to mush.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I did, but not for the reason he wanted me to.It would take a LOT of ****ing Dynamite to level a mountain. You're seriously underestimating that level of strength. Diamond piercing cannot compare.
a person can yell & cause an avalanche, so mountain crushing is not really a big deal. tell me, how much force do u think it takes 2 pierce a diamond?😬
Originally posted by yung_link
a person can yell & cause an avalanche, so mountain crushing is not really a big deal. tell me, how much force do u think it takes 2 pierce a diamond?😬
Dude, thats not a very smart comment...
Firstly, avalanches are most commonly made out of snow, which is loose and semi liquidous, thats not the bare rocks that the snow is resting on. Secondly, thousands of years worth of errosion causes mudslides, and thats still only the surface soil we're talking about. Rockslides still take tremendous forces to occur, such as dynamite, and yet still, this is only the loose rocks under the surface soul. To bring down a mountain would take an explosion with double digit megatonnes worth of released energy all at once to crumble a small mountain. Diamond piercing is hardly anywhere near megatonne level even if it's all directed at one spot unless it's a few feet thick. and Nidoking's hirn is about 7 inches long at best.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Dude, thats not a very smart comment...Firstly, avalanches are most commonly made out of snow, which is loose and semi liquidous, thats not the bare rocks that the snow is resting on. Secondly, thousands of years worth of errosion causes mudslides, and thats still only the surface soil we're talking about. Rockslides still take tremendous forces to occur, such as dynamite, and yet still, this is only the loose rocks under the surface soul. To bring down a mountain would take an explosion with double digit megatonnes worth of released energy all at once to crumble a small mountain. Diamond piercing is hardly anywhere near megatonne level even if it's all directed at one spot unless it's a few feet thick. and Nidoking's hirn is about 7 inches long at best.
think about it like this, if u blow up the dense part of a mountain, the less dense part will break 2. thats what i meant. once again i cant compare blowing up a mountain 2 diamond piercing cuz ppl dont blow up whole mountains. so i guess u think ordinary rocks & soil in high quantity r tougher 2 destroy than a diamond, the hardest object on Earth? sure mountains r big, but they arent the hardest things on Earth, so they shouldnt b compared just cuz they're big. a small diamond can take tons of pressure 2 pierce, mountains can fall apart if u blow up a single part, making ty's feat less than it is. btw if nido's insides would do what u said, nido's horn could cut thru ty like a hot knife thru butter. also nido is indeed fast enough 2 kill ty with his horn, cuz 25% speed is more than u seem 2 think. if u dont think it is, then do the math. nido has a speed advantage, type advantage, & he recieves no recoil from his attacks since his horn is sharp, not blunt, what does ty hav?😬
edit: ty could shatter the diamond, not PIERCE it(yes, there's a big difference)
Originally posted by yung_link
think about it like this, if u blow up the dense part of a mountain, the less dense part will break 2. thats what i meant. once again i cant compare blowing up a mountain 2 diamond piercing cuz ppl dont blow up whole mountains. so i guess u think ordinary rocks & soil in high quantity r tougher 2 destroy than a diamond, the hardest object on Earth? sure mountains r big, but they arent the hardest things on Earth, so they shouldnt b compared just cuz they're big. a small diamond can take tons of pressure 2 pierce, mountains can fall apart if u blow up a single part, making ty's feat less than it is. btw if nido's insides would do what u said, nido's horn could cut thru ty like a hot knife thru butter. also nido is indeed fast enough 2 kill ty with his horn, cuz 25% speed is more than u seem 2 think. if u dont think it is, then do the math. nido has a speed advantage, type advantage, & he recieves no recoil from his attacks since his horn is sharp, not blunt, what does ty hav?😬edit: ty could shatter the diamond, not PIERCE it(yes, there's a big difference)
Heh, you know, thats funny. Last time I checked, piercing diamond takes less than a single megatonne worth of energy to penetrate a quartz rock of the stuff that is about the size of a finger.
Your reffering to a domino effect, thats not applicable here, Tyranitar's fist causes the entire thing to collapse instantly, it has no need to pulverise one spot to do it because he can do this from a distance.
Next, your speed feat is offset by technique. Ty merely raises his hands, and plants them, on either side of the horn into Nido's skull, stopping Nido's momentum instantly. Since Nidoking's physical strength is incomparable to Tyranitar's, there's no way that horn is moving within his grip, and he either gets it torn right off, or Ty just closes his hands and pops Nidoking's skull like a grape.
And that difference is what exactly? The fact that Nidoking can plant the horn into a slab of diamond? Even though Tyranitaur can shatter it like glass? I'll tell you right now, the forces required to actually Break Apart something using an external amount of force is FAR HIGHER than needing to simply penetrate the same substance with a sharpened object. Tyranitaur has both the physical strength and the durability to withstand mere diamond cutting by feats alone. The dude changes landscapes and yes, deeper crust elements are harder than diamond, they have to be in order to survive the pressure that they are in, deeper crust and mantle elements for starters.
a single megatonne worth of energy for a DIAMOND 2 pierce a diamond, nothing else can pierce one, so whats your point?😬 how can ty touch something he cant catch, or move fast enough 2 catch it? your statement of how breaking something apart takes more strength than piercing it doesnt apply with diamonds, i'll tell u y. 1. diamonds, although being the hardest thing on earth r brittle, so they splinter easily. if u take a hammer & hit a diamond hard enough its will break, but piercing...thats a whole nother story. cleavage is what causes it 2 break, not b pierced. a diamonds carbon composition makes piercing nearly impossible, that is unless u hav another diamond. so piercing a diamond is much much MUCH harder than breaking 1. ty cannot withstand that kind of power along with increased speed, plus a type advantage. nothing in the dex says anything about his body being tougher than diamonds, if u check Bulbapedia it'll actually say his flesh is ROCKY. also the dex says he crushes mountains, not elements under the Earth's crust. i know u're gonna say with that kind of power he could, but the Earth's crust is dense. unlike that of less dense mountains in which the domino effect will most likely apply after being struck. also since u said it takes less power 2 penetrate objects with a sharpened object than with pure force, nido could impale ty with his horn(since he doesnt need 2 build up much energy) b4 ty could build up enough energy 2 do that much damage. plus the the inertia of such a swing would leave him WIDE open after nido dodges skillfully. which he will, if ty has enough time 2 attempt 2 strike, that is...
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Hm, 40 pages. 😐I don't know why people are still harping on "mountain crushing" when Nidoking has Fissure.
Also, you don't become a close-combat specialist by sucking at dodging. You actually become dead from that, lol.
You can become a close combat specialist on durability, strength, h2h skills etc.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You can become a close combat specialist on durability, strength, h2h skills etc.
Yeah, but I'm not going to consider someone a CQC specialist if all they are good at is taking blows.
For example, just because super-fat Bob doesn't get hurt by skinny Timmy's punches doesn't make Bob a CQC specialist.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Yeah, but I'm not going to consider someone a CQC specialist if all they are good at is taking blows.For example, just because super-fat Bob doesn't get hurt by skinny Timmy's punches doesn't make Bob a CQC specialist.
Just because you don't accept it, doesn't make it less true. Juggernaut has shit h2h skills yet he is deadly and near unbeatable when it comes to h2h unless you BFR him. There's plenty of things that can make you a CQC specialists, not just speed.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Just because you don't accept it, doesn't make it less true. Juggernaut has shit h2h skills yet he is deadly and near unbeatable when it comes to h2h unless you BFR him. There's plenty of things that can make you a CQC specialists, not just speed.
I think that your interpretation is different than mine, is all. What do you think makes Nidoking a CQC specialist?
Originally posted by LLLLLink
I think that your interpretation is different than mine, is all. What do you think makes Nidoking a CQC specialist?
Never seen him in a CQC fight so I can't say. All I'm saying is that speed is not the only thing that can make someone a "specialist". You can suck at dodging and still be a CQC specialists.