Originally posted by LLLLLink
Tyranitar cannot learn Fissure by any means. 😬@ Rain: Weak old Sandshrew used it. It made a gigantic crevasse in the earth. Something like that might be able to, I don't know, crumble a mouintain? 😖hifty:
if im not wrong i think Moo said something earlier about how elements in the Earth's crust were harder than diamonds so...hmm
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. That Sandshrew was not weak by any means, you foolish Spinda.2. Nidoking loses. Tyranitar snaps the horn off his head.
3. Damn it, Spinda is back.
1. No Sandshrew is more powerful than a Nidoking. Poor argument.
2.Ty loses in game to Nidoking, and loses to a Togepi outside of the game. Ty has no argument to support him at all.
3. You can't beat the Water Temple. 😆
Originally posted by LLLLLink
1. No Sandshrew is more powerful than a Nidoking. Poor argument.2.Ty loses in game to Nidoking, and loses to a Togepi outside of the game. Ty has no argument to support him at all.
3. You can't beat the Water Temple. 😆
1. Are you ****in' stupid? Don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question. Pikachu can be more powerful than Dragonite, and you don't think a Sandshrew can be > than a Nidoking? Also a rhetorical question.
Are you ever going to admit that Nidoking loses? You guessed it.
2. Lolgamemechanics. And no. Tyranitar rips that horn off Nidoking's face, shoves it down his throat and tosses him into space. GG.
3. Actually I can, but you can't put two and two together.
Wow this thread has persisted. I can't believe it's lasted as long as it has.
Now look. I hate Tyranitar. I don't like him at all. One of the most overrated Pokemon out there. But fact is, I don't see him losing. Now don't offer any arguments to me about this, because it's not like I really care. But Ty is a pseudo-legendary Pokemon and he is given far more hype from his Pokedex than Nidoking is. Being 5 levels higher than him may balance things out but in all honesty probably doesn't. Just my opinion and I don't really care to defend it, but would Nintendo allow a pseudo-legendary lose to a Pokemon not belonging to a character in the anime? Probably not.
Regardless, I think it would be beneficial for this thread to die. Pokemon is such a testy subject and you always end up using feat less characters regardless because outside of the Pokedex.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not really. If Nidoking plans to hurt Tyranitar at all, he'll have to strike him. And Nidoking isn't too fast to react to. So it goes like this:Step 1. Nidoking attacks
Step 2. Tyranitar stops it
Step 3. Tyranitar destroys Nidoking
how exactly did u deduct that ty has better reaction time than nido?😬 here's things i know 4 a FACT:
1. Nido has higher speed, regardless of how much more(25% is alot, im just making a point without it), speed is crucial when facing an opponent who is physically stronger.
2. Nido can use moves that r ty's weakness. now i know u've seen pokemon in the anime survive extremely powerful/weakness moves, but normally the user lacks the needed advantage(which is normally speed) 2 make them useful.(ty is a perfect example) that is not the case with nido. ty lacks the type advantage(without Earthquake), & the speed 2 stop nido's onslaught of super-effective moves(and yes, there will be blood...)
3. ty's horn doesnt require nearly as much inertia or energy 2 b highly effective, it just is. he has 2 hav power behind his horn, otherwise he wouldnt b PIERCING diamonds, so he's obviously not as weak as u say.
now tell me...whats ty got on that?hmm oh lemme guess...
1. mountain crushing power.
seriously?😬
edit: oh, & plz stop saying ty destroys nido, cuz its a lie.
Ok lets go by an example:
-Nidoking charges head-first at Tyranitar.
-Tyranitar doesn't stop the attack.
(-Very unlikely that it wont stop the literal head on assault.)
-Tyranitar get stabbed in the body.
-Lets say Tyranitar is now slowly dieing, will be a slow fatal blow.
-Nidoking is in a vulnerable position.
-Tyranitar on instinct hits Nidoking.
-Nidoking is killed under that power.
-Tyranitar wins in this instant.
-Extra- Tyranitar dies after its victory.
If you dont get it being stabbed wont take something like Tyranitar down the second it pierces. But, getting hit by mountain busting arms will finish it in one.
Originally posted by yung_link
how exactly did u deduct that ty has better reaction time than nido?😬 here's things i know 4 a FACT:
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
And Nidoking isn't too fast to react to.
Originally posted by yung_link
1. Nido has higher speed, regardless of how much more(25% is alot, im just making a point without it), speed is crucial when facing an opponent who is physically stronger.
Completely useless. Consider the speed that Nidoking is 25% faster than. It isn't impressive speed by any means. Tyranitar doesn't have to be a faster runner to see a hit coming and stop it.
Originally posted by yung_link
2. Nido can use moves that r ty's weakness. now i know u've seen pokemon in the anime survive extremely powerful/weakness moves, but normally the user lacks the needed advantage(which is normally speed) 2 make them useful.(ty is a perfect example) that is not the case with nido. ty lacks the type advantage(without Earthquake), & the speed 2 stop nido's onslaught of super-effective moves(and yes, there will be blood...)
Also completely useless. An onslaught of moves it will not be.
Originally posted by yung_link
3. ty's horn doesnt require nearly as much inertia or energy 2 b highly effective, it just is. he has 2 hav power behind his horn, otherwise he wouldnt b PIERCING diamonds, so he's obviously not as weak as u say.
He still isn't strong enough.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. Are you ****in' stupid? Don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question. Pikachu can be more powerful than Dragonite, and you don't think a Sandshrew can be > than a Nidoking? Also a rhetorical question.Are you ever going to admit that Nidoking loses? You guessed it.
2. Lolgamemechanics. And no. Tyranitar rips that horn off Nidoking's face, shoves it down his throat and tosses him into space. GG.
3. Actually I can, but you can't put two and two together.
1. Heh, by that logic of yours, Team Rocket's Meowth is one of the most durable pokemon in existance. Fail harder.
2. Nidoking uses multiple Fissures, Ty falls into Hell, along with any mountains he can crush. /discussion
3. Lol, terrible comback is terrible.
The simple fact is, Tyranitar has one pokedex quote going for him and that's it. There is not one shred of anything that shows him doing squat to anything close to the size of a mountain. As a matter of fact, there are tons of supposed "weaker" pokemon with much greater feats that we can actually see happening.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Say something that's true and actually matters. You haven't managed to do that yet.
I was too busy letting the manga, anime and games do all the talking for me. It's not like I depicted Fissure to be a earth-splitting, catastrophe causing move. It's not like I programmed Tyranitar to be one-shotted by Nidoking and his movepool and typing. It's not like I wrote the part where Ty gets wrecked by a Togepi's Double-Edge.
Originally posted by BloodRain
So youre still clinging onto a moment in a manga that is so heavily laced in PIS that its actually bad to take in in one go? Yay for PIS.And the animes Fissues? Yay for it showing the non one-hit KO very slow and avoidable move.
Well, here's the deal. I have evidence of Ty getting raped, while there is absolutely nothing to support the durabilty everyone claims he has.
As for Fissure, the move being used as an attack isn't what I even brought it up for. It's to show the power that any pokemon knowing that move has. And before you bring up Tauros, remember, he isn't a ground type.
We can always go back to Horn Drill, which Rhydon (who was underwater was able to create a giant Whirlpool and K.O. several of Ash, Misty and some other person's pokemon in one move.