Bayonetta, Kratos, and Sephiroth vs. Link and Sheik (SSBB)

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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Hey, wanna know why they look different? 'cause nobody has to dodge them. It looks bad when Link and Mario are running down a road randomly dodging nothing.

^Was actually about to type this. Moo sniped me.

Hey, wanna know why they look different? 'cause nobody has to dodge them. It looks bad when Link and Mario are running down a road randomly dodging nothing.

Soooo, you're going for PIS then. I can see where your coming from with that but PIS doesn't work visually I'm afraid. You can't have lasers moving fast one moment and then slow the next without some explanation. If they do and there is none then we can do nothing but say that they aren't the same thing.

Also no it wouldn't. Seeing Mario and Link wiz around as superspeeding blurs of colour while the ground erupts in explosions would be patently Bad-Ass. Even I, who finds most Nintendo stuff incredibly gay would find my nipples sweeling up from the sheer manly awesome of it. Seeing them move at blatantly normal speeds and then trying to pass it off as fast however is nothing but a lie. A big stinking lie.

This has been settled. Scroll down to my post, dont want to waste space posting again. ''In summery: Unless there is a way to prove that they were at the speeds of a real life laser, or a way to prove that its faster of slower then a bullet it will have to be left at bullet speed.''

Without that its the same as bullet time.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Soooo, you're going for PIS then. I can see where your coming from with that but PIS doesn't work visually I'm afraid. You can't have lasers moving fast one moment and then slow the next without some explanation. If they do and there is none then we can do nothing but say that they aren't the same thing.

Also no it wouldn't. Seeing Mario and Link wiz around as superspeeding blurs of colour while the ground erupts in explosions would be patently Bad-Ass. Even I, who finds most Nintendo stuff incredibly gay would find my nipples sweeling up from the sheer manly awesome of it. Seeing them move at blatantly normal speeds and then trying to pass it off as fast however is nothing but a lie. A big stinking lie.

The lasers were never slow, only visible. Bad attempted deconstruction is bad.

I wouldn't call that PIS, but it kinda is.

They needed to look like that so that they can be seen. If it looked like a real laser, we wouldn't see it. Ever see a laser pointer? Me neither.

The lasers were never slow, only visible. Bad attempted deconstruction is bad.

Visual=Slow(er than bullets). That is the rule when we use our eyes to determine speed. If something is so fast our eyes cannot keep up with it (i.e. bullets) then it is in a certain level of speed. Something that is not too fast to be seen is logically slower than that QED.

I wouldn't call that PIS, but it kinda is.

They needed to look like that so that they can be seen. If it looked like a real laser, we wouldn't see it. Ever see a laser pointer? Me neither.

No they didn't though. And anyway, intentions do not exist as excuses. Lucas wanted the Ewoks to show that you didn't need to be awesome to stand up to teh Empire but it still makes the Stormtroopers look like pussies for getting their asses kicked by teddybears. Intentions don't overwrite reality, and your interpretations of the creators intentions doesn't magically make those 'lasers' any faster than what we can see.

Visual=Slow(er than bullets).

mariofacepalm

Visible = visible, so players can see. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Visual=Slow(er than bullets). That is the rule when we use our eyes to determine speed. If something is so fast our eyes cannot keep up with it (i.e. bullets) then it is in a certain level of speed. Something that is not too fast to be seen is logically slower than that QED.

Lol, so why did you give me shit about Ultimecia's supposed bullet feat?

Originally posted by Nephthys
No they didn't though. And anyway, intentions do not exist as excuses. Lucas wanted the Ewoks to show that you didn't need to be awesome to stand up to teh Empire but it still makes the Stormtroopers look like pussies for getting their asses kicked. Intentions don't overwrite reality, and your interpretations of the creators intentions don't magically make those 'lasers' any faster than what we can see.

Then again, why am I getting so much shit for Ultimecia's bullet feat? If intentions don't mean shit, then clearly that scene is left up to interpretation.

You also appear to have talked yourself into a circle. My interpretations of the creator's intentions don't mean anything. But intention doesn't work as a reason, either. So what the **** are we supposed to think?

INDEED. When the bullet in FF is slow, it's still a bullet, so it moves at bullet speed. When a laser in SSBB is visible, it's slow?

DOUBLE STANDARD! D:

Because lasers blast in fiction dont always follow real life rules 😐

But bullets do? Nonsense.

Edit: I have also had a problem with the message in your sig for the longest time. I felt the need to tell you this, so I'm done now.

😬 Why would they change the bullet?

Edit: The quote? Thought someone would say something about that.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Because lasers blast in fiction dont always follow real life rules 😐
Openning a can of worms alert: Know what lies down this road? That's right...
NOTHING IS VALID EVAR. Becuz: it's fiction, and things don't need to behave normally... >_> HM.

I avoid that little pit, by using logic: if it quacks like a duck, it's a mother ****ing duck. 😐 Hell, even when I argue against Kratos, I never claim the lightning he deals with is slower than normal lightning, even though it's both visible and demonstrably slower than normal lightning, because that would be ASININE. 😛 It IS Lightning, lightning the player needs to see. thus, it's as quick as lightning.

Why would they change a laser?

Edit: Yes, the quote.

Originally posted by BloodRain
😬 Why would they change the bullet?

Edit: The quote? Thought someone would say something about that.

Why would they change a laser?

Edit: Sniped, damn.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Why would they change a laser?

Because we dont have real laser guns so fiction can do whatever they like with it.

Tis a great quote one too.

Laser Pointer.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Because we dont have real laser guns so fiction can do whatever they like with it.

bad excuse is bad. We don't have real lightning throwing deities either, but we're relatively certain how quick lightning moves.

Im sorry a laser pointer is a laser gun now?

It shoosts lasers, just not the same sort of lasers. You're missing the point. Why would they change a laser from how it works IRL, to something less impressiv,e in cutscenes DESIGNED to look awesome and impressive?