Marvel vs Capcom 3

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Objectively, Ken's moves differ from Ryu's more than X-23's differ from Logan's. Therein lies the problem. It's kind of ridiculous to disqualify a character on the merits that it would be a clone when the game does indeed have [a] clone[s]. From what I can tell there is no real consistent method for which Marvel is picking which characters they want to have in the game. It's like they're pulling the characters out of a hat or something.

So that being the case... I guess there's no reason to say that X character shouldn't be in the game period; even Modok.

Wolverine and X-23 only share just one move. She's only a clone storywise. Not gameplay wise.

Ryu and Ken however share more than one.

Originally posted by KCJ506
Exactly. No matter how "different" people say they are, they're not that much different from each other and Ken's not different enough to warrant him a spot. Especially when there are more unique SF's.

A Hadouken, whether it's fired from the ground or the air, into the air diagonally, or whatever is still a hadouken.

A Shoryuken, whether its normal, or has a slight curve to it with flames, is still... a shoryuken.

A Tatsu, whether standard, enveloped with electricity, or moves upwards is still.... a tatsu

Do people see where I'm going with this?

And I forgot to mention Blade among the deconfirmed characters. Didn't think he was gonna make it anyway. Don't see how they'd make him play much different from Deadpool and Dante.(guns and swords)

Lulz. Ignorance is bliss. By using your ridiculos logic, Spider Man, Cyclops, Captain America, Morrigan, etc.., don't belong N this game Bcause they'R all shotos. If the above U posted R the only diffrences U can C and get out of Ryu and Ken, then U really don't need 2 make comments about this subject. U can ask any serious MVC player and they'll laugh @ U 4 your reasoning on Y U think Ken doesn't need 2 B N. I can C if U say, they no the same style N the story or there R already enough SFs. But that excuse really makes U sound like the casual scrub/troll.

Originally posted by KCJ506
Wolverine and X-23 only share just one move. She's only a clone storywise. Not gameplay wise.

Ryu and Ken however share more than one.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Lulz. Ignorance is bliss. By using your ridiculos logic, Spider Man, Cyclops, Captain America, Morrigan, etc.., don't belong N this game Bcause they'R all shotos. If the above U posted R the only diffrences U can C and get out of Ryu and Ken, then U really don't need 2 make comments about this subject. U can ask any serious MVC player and they'll laugh @ U 4 your reasoning on Y U think Ken doesn't need 2 B N. I can C if U say, they no the same style N the story or there R already enough SFs. But that excuse really makes U sound like the casual scrub/troll.

I'm not even gonna bother because I can't take anyone who's too lazy to spell out words(small words nonetheless) seriously.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No she actually has the exact same playstyle as Wolverine. Non-projectile based fighter with a relatively low DPS who relies on being aggressive and offense oriented. Super involves slashing wildly in all directions with claws. Sounds exactly like Wolverine. Her having a claw on her foot is purely aesthetic; no different than Ganondorf's falcon punch being purple instead of fire colored. You could go into the game and play the same way with either character and get the same result. Hence, she's a clone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIlHD71kkk

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She is like 10% in common with Wolverine's moveset.

Her moveset consists of

- A dodge and attack move, very similar to Dudley's.

- A flash kick, ala Guile.

- A directional dive kick, which strongly resembles one of VJ's moves.

- A Berserker Claw-esque Dash Attack.

With these tools, she's far from a Wolverine clone. Shes a lot faster, more agile, acrobatic, and shes more on the assassin type. She even disappears in one of her moves. She reminds me a bit of Cammy. She is more martial arts than savagery like Wolverine.

I honestly think it's because of who she is people are saying she plays too much like Wolverine. She could shoot rockets out of her boobs and people would probably still say that.

Originally posted by KCJ506
The only thing Spider-man has that's a bit similar to one of Ryu's moves is the Spider Sting.

Web Ball and Web Swing lulz. They R closer 2 Ryu's Tatsu and Hdk then Ken's is to Ryu. How could U play the game and not notice that? Ken's fireball is virtually useless N comparison. Ken's Tatsu can even B used as an anti air and has a mid air DP? U have 2 B kidding me?

They function nothing alike.

Originally posted by KCJ506
I'm not even gonna bother because I can't take anyone who's too lazy to spell out words(small words nonetheless) seriously.

There R'nt 2 many people who don't know Y I type like this still left here. It's a pretty good reason. Nice cop out nonethesless.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Web Ball and Web Swing lulz. They R closer 2 Ryu's Tatsu and Hdk then Ken's is to Ryu. How could U play the game and not notice that? Ken's fireball is virtually useless N comparison. Ken's Tatsu can even B used as an anti air and has a mid air DP? U have 2 B kidding me?

They function nothing alike.

Learn how to type and I might be able to take you seriously.

Originally posted by KCJ506
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIlHD71kkk

Originally posted by KCJ506
Learn how to type and I might be able to take you seriously.

Talk about my typing Bcause I revealed U no zip about this game or the 1s B4 it? That's just strange.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Talk about my typing Bcause I revealed U no zip about this game or the 1s B4 it? That's just strange.

I don't know what you just said here, but whatever...

My definition of shoto is very simple.

1) A palette swapped karate uniform. The basic Street Fighter karate uniform consists of karate shirt, karate pants, a karate belt, and those combat gloves. Shotos are well known to all share the exact same costume, with the only difference being a color swap. As long as those major factors are there, simple weak exceptions you bring up like headbands, undershirts, shoes, etc etc, mean nothing. Sakura is just BARELY not being categorized here because she only wears the combat gloves. Everyone else? SHOTO.

2) They have the SAME attacks. A HADOKEN(fireball) It does NOT matter how powerful it is, how fast it is, what the combination to execute it is, or where it can be aimed. Same goes to the Shoryuken. Whether it has fire, ice, or what have you coming off it, or how far across the screen it goes? It's a Shoryuken. That's it. And all the other shoto attacks.

Originally posted by KCJ506
I don't know what you just said here, but whatever...

My definition of shoto is very simple.

1) A palette swapped karate uniform. The basic Street Fighter karate uniform consists of karate shirt, karate pants, a karate belt, and those combat gloves. Shotos are well known to all share the exact same costume, with the only difference being a color swap. As long as those major factors are there, simple weak exceptions you bring up like headbands, undershirts, shoes, etc etc, mean nothing. Sakura is just BARELY not being categorized here because she only wears the combat gloves. Everyone else? SHOTO.

2) They have the SAME attacks. A HADOKEN (read: A fireball that always looks the same.) It does NOT matter how powerful it is, how fast it is, what the combination to execute it is, or where it can be aimed. Same goes to the Shoryuken. Whether it has fire, ice, or what have you coming off it, or how far across the screen it goes? It's a Shoryuken. That's it. And all the other shoto attacks. Spider-man, Captain America, and Morrigan clearly have none of these.

Well, as long as Ken's a copy and paste 2 U. But I assure U, the widely used def of "Shoto" Ncludes Spider-man, Captain America, Morrigan, Cyclops, Megaman, and Psylocke. They all have most or all of Ryu's moves and they'R done using the exact same or painfully similar button commands. Your reasoning is based firmly on aesthetics and not function.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Your reasoning is based firmly on aesthetics and not function.

And that aint good...Havin' Ken out for aesthetics is okay, I geuss. But when you complain about them 'functioning'/playing alike.....You're clueless.

Also, I know alotta folks who played MVC3 and there are pletny of write ups on the net, X-23 and Wolvie R nothing alike. Wolvs beasts out on the ground an X-23 is all about catchin some air. Honestly, Logan sucks compared to her as it stands now. Hook'im up Capcom.

U no who really sucks? Thor and Chris and Ryu R actually pretty boss Dspite earlier reports. Go figure. They also say Ms. Aensland is the new Magneto.

Originally posted by No End N Site
And that aint good...Havin' Ken out for aesthetics is okay, I geuss. But when you complain about them 'functioning'/playing alike.....You're clueless.

Also, I know alotta folks who played MVC3 and there are pletny of write ups on the net, X-23 and Wolvie R nothing alike. Wolvs beasts out on the ground an X-23 is all about catchin some air. Honestly, Logan sucks compared to her as it stands now. Hook'im up Capcom.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ken, but there are plenty of other SF's that offer more unique gameplay. I don't even think there's gonna be that many. There's probably gonna be 2 more. A SF villain(probably Bison) and there's the possibility of C.Viper.

And I'm glad someone here agrees with me on Wolverine and X-23.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Wolvs beasts out on the ground an X-23 is all about catchin some air.

I actually got the opposite impression, looking at their gameplay. Logan seems to have a lot more anti-air punishment combos than she does.

Originally posted by KCJ506
Don't get me wrong, I like Ken, but there are plenty of other SF's that offer more unique gameplay. I don't even think there's gonna be that many. There's probably gonna be 2 more. A SF villain(probably Bison) and there's the possibility of C.Viper.

And I'm glad someone here agrees with me on Wolverine and X-23.

I'm talkin' about not addin' Ken cuz of shallow superficial reasons like knowin' the same martial art and wearing a gi, even if they play nothin' alike. Ryu and Ken's gameplay are different enough for me. I DO want Ken but I can understand his non incusion for the sake of RADICALY different SFs like chargers and grapplers. But I tell'ya this, for every character I don't use and find no intrest in, I'm gonna say. "They picked this motha phucka over Ken"?!

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I actually got the opposite impression, looking at their gameplay. Logan seems to have a lot more anti-air punishment combos than she does.

What I mean is Wolvy is 'prolly' better on the ground. But X-23 is gonna be launchin' motha phuckaz like bottle rockets and air comboin' the shit outta people, plus a wide aray of mid air attacks. Meanin', if you combo X-23 with the right assists, she's gonna have some HUGE unblockable assualts and set ups. Plus she rushes down and combos way better than Wolvy. X-23 can send cats flyin' better than X-23 can keep'em grounded.

Originally posted by KCJ506
More deconfirmed characters.

Gambit