R1/L1 actually. You tap them for the assist move, and you hold it down to switch the character altogether. The R2's default is, I believe, the L/M/H three-in-one button to pull off Hypers (if you press it without moving the stick, you dash forward, and press it again to do a heavy attack immediately after). L2 does a joint-attack Hyper Combo.
But to switch characters mid-air combo, what you gotta do is press either left or right on the control stick and the button assigned to the 'S-attack' (basically, the X button on PS3). Pressing just the button slams the enemy back into the ground.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngineI think it's also fair to remember that Spider-Man bucked the hero mold of his time. The big heroes predating Spider-Man were guys like Superman and Batman who, at the time, were both moral pillars with cleft chins. Peter Parker was more like comic book fans: Scrawny, misunderstood, and equipped with a smart mouth. He also made mistakes and questionable moral choices like his decision to let the burglar who killed his Uncle go after he robbed the wrestling promoter. The things Peter said to villains while thwarting their schemes were too flippant and bold for Bats or Supes to say even at their cockiest. Instead of following a strict, moral code by the books, Peter followed his heart and gut a lot more while making tough calls. So, yeah, Spider-Man never killed and always, more or less, really tried to do the right thing. However, I would argue he does fit the Marvel rebellious trend in heroes. He followed a sort of Superman superhero model, but in his own way and with a young, fresh personality.
Aside from the fact that he's long since made a name past a comparison to Spiderman, you're obviously not discerning the terms rip-off and parody. Deadpool's as much of a rip-off of Spiderman nowadays as someone like Dan Hibiki is of whatever character he was made in response to. In other words, he stopped being a rip-off when he appealed on themes and grounds Spiderman doesn't even tread for the sake of recognition. Deadpool talks to a crowd far beyond just that of a bunch of groundlessly conservative purists and people who can't acknowledge a good inside joke when they see one.
Deadpool really just took it a step further. He was created in an era that was loosening up on the "heroes don't kill" code. He's also more of an overt anti-hero while Spider-Man's just a more relaxed version of a superhero. It is clear to see that Deadpool was created with Spider-Man in mind just as Spider-Man was created with Superman in mind. Deadpool has the smart mouth and even kind of looks like Spider-Man, but does what he does for money and is perfectly fine with killing. In this way he rebels against the Spider-Man image just as Spider-Man rebelled against the Superman image. They both act as sort of parodies or commentaries on the classic superhero image, but they're from different eras and do it in different degrees.
But Deadpool just comes as to hard and forced compared to Spidey. Heck even Spidey broke the forth wall before wade did.
Hell if you want a edgy character that breaks the piss of hero cliches with comedy, see She Hulk who was first before Wade was.
Originally posted by killermover
I think it's also fair to remember that Spider-Man bucked the hero mold of his time. The big heroes predating Spider-Man were guys like Superman and Batman who, at the time, were both moral pillars with cleft chins. Peter Parker was more like comic book fans: Scrawny, misunderstood, and equipped with a smart mouth. He also made mistakes and questionable moral choices like his decision to let the burglar who killed his Uncle go after he robbed the wrestling promoter. The things Peter said to villains while thwarting their schemes were too flippant and bold for Bats or Supes to say even at their cockiest. Instead of following a strict, moral code by the books, Peter followed his heart and gut a lot more while making tough calls. So, yeah, Spider-Man never killed and always, more or less, really tried to do the right thing. However, I would argue he does fit the Marvel rebellious trend in heroes. He followed a sort of Superman superhero model, but in his own way and with a young, fresh personality.Deadpool really just took it a step further. He was created in an era that was loosening up on the "heroes don't kill" code. He's also more of an overt anti-hero while Spider-Man's just a more relaxed version of a superhero. It is clear to see that Deadpool was created with Spider-Man in mind just as Spider-Man was created with Superman in mind. Deadpool has the smart mouth and even kind of looks like Spider-Man, but does what he does for money and is perfectly fine with killing. In this way he rebels against the Spider-Man image just as Spider-Man rebelled against the Superman image. They both act as sort of parodies or commentaries on the classic superhero image, but they're from different eras and do it in different degrees.
But Deadpool just comes as to hard and forced compared to Spidey. Heck even Spidey broke the forth wall before wade did.
You're saying that like it's somehow relevent to your claim. It just further proves that you're wrong on Deadpool being a 'ripoff' by any unintentional means. Deadpool's entire concept is made to be a complete deviation from the concepts of good and evil, like with any anti-hero. That's not nearly enough to claim that someone like Deadpool, a character who's entire theme of appeal has become something almost completely different, is influenced Solely from that kind of inspiration Spiderman is known for, because to think so says little more than that some people take no longer of a look at him than to note the clear similarities in costume (which I'm sure was not a coincidence).
By now from the time Deadpool was conceived, him being anything more than a parody has devolved into little more than footnote trivia. You sound to me like you're trying to say Spiderman was the pioneer of the quintissential anti-hero when he's nothing of the sort. He's as rightously minded as someone like Superman, the only difference in personality being that Spiderman actually has one. Between the three classic heroes you mentioned, Batman is by an large the closest thing to one, and even then that's going out on a limb because in terms of sheer motive, he's more comparable to a grittier take on Spiderman. Deadpool's sense of humor and smart-mouthed tendencies stop being based on any of these quite literally immediately after getting over his costume's resemblance to Spiderman's (the most discernable difference being that it's better 131 ).
And I really don't know what you're trying to get at with one insignificant excerpt of Spiderman breaking the fourth wall. Breaking the fourth wall is something that's existed long before either Spiderman or Deadpool, but it's the latter who makes it an actual aspect of his entire character for the sake of his appeal and originality as a character. Deadpool's sense of humor as a character is there for the sake of actually being comedy, Spiderman's sense of humor on the other hand is entirely character-based for the sake of making a quippy character. Even in that regard alone, Deadpool isn't meant to be quippy, he's meant to be insane. That's not trying too hard, that's just the naysayer holding the anti-hero archetype against one character based on his series' main focus.
I have some complaints about the game, but I think this is purely from playing Marvel vs Capcom 2. I might just need to get used to the game. The game is too simple now, and they removed some attacks. For instance when playing with Hulk, I used to jump and come down with hard/roundhouse kick, but they got rid of this, theres more, anybody else feel this way?
Originally posted by BloodRawEngineSo you admit he's a parody of a Spider-Man. Spider-Man is the original "Mouthy Super Hero" of the comics. Deadpool even claims he's a ripoff of Spider-Man. If you're complaining that Deadpool sense of humor is based on him being insane, then Spidey broke that mold before Deadpool did(based on trauma not insanity), it was Kelly that took the character and molded it into a Spidey type of edgy. Before Deadpool was a rip off of Deathstroke with little unimaginative potential.
You're saying that like it's somehow relevent to your claim. It just further proves that you're wrong on Deadpool being a 'ripoff' by any unintentional means. Deadpool's entire concept is made to be a complete deviation from the concepts of good and evil, like with any anti-hero. That's not nearly enough to claim that someone like Deadpool, a character who's entire theme of appeal has become something almost completely different, is influenced Solely from that kind of inspiration Spiderman is known for, because to think so says little more than that some people take no longer of a look at him than to note the clear similarities in costume (which I'm sure was not a coincidence).By now from the time Deadpool was conceived, him being anything more than a parody has devolved into little more than footnote trivia. You sound to me like you're trying to say Spiderman was the pioneer of the quintissential anti-hero when he's nothing of the sort. He's as rightously minded as someone like Superman, the only difference in personality being that Spiderman actually has one. Between the three classic heroes you mentioned, Batman is by an large the closest thing to one, and even then that's going out on a limb because in terms of sheer motive, he's more comparable to a grittier take on Spiderman. Deadpool's sense of humor and smart-mouthed tendencies stop being based on any of these quite literally immediately after getting over his costume's resemblance to Spiderman's (the most discernable difference being that it's better 131 ).
And I really don't know what you're trying to get at with one insignificant excerpt of Spiderman breaking the fourth wall. Breaking the fourth wall is something that's existed long before either Spiderman or Deadpool, but it's the latter who makes it an actual aspect of his entire character for the sake of his appeal and originality as a character. Deadpool's sense of humor as a character is there for the sake of actually being comedy, Spiderman's sense of humor on the other hand is entirely character-based for the sake of making a quippy character. Even in that regard alone, Deadpool isn't meant to be quippy, he's meant to be insane. That's not trying too hard, that's just the naysayer holding the anti-hero archetype against one character based on his series' main focus.
Spider-Man is the original, the alpha and omega of wisecracking smart assed based superheros, just like Bugs was the original snarker wise guy of the looney toons. Deadpool is the anti spidey. Him wanting to be a accepted hero, him talking his enmies to death and him struggling to keep his life together despite being a trained killer. His main focus is cheap shits and giggles with more random wolverine apperences, not unlike Joe Kelly's run.
Originally posted by EvilTyrant
I have some complaints about the game, but I think this is purely from playing Marvel vs Capcom 2. I might just need to get used to the game. The game is too simple now, and they removed some attacks. For instance when playing with Hulk, I used to jump and come down with hard/roundhouse kick, but they got rid of this, theres more, anybody else feel this way?
Can't be helped. This generation of gamers like things easy, and companies that want to make money will give them that. The result is a much easier game, at least execution wise, in order to get them sales.
Originally posted by killermover
So you admit he's a parody of a Spider-Man. Spider-Man is the original "Mouthy Super Hero" of the comics. Deadpool even claims he's a ripoff of Spider-Man. If you're complaining that Deadpool sense of humor is based on him being insane, then Spidey broke that mold before Deadpool did(based on trauma not insanity), it was Kelly that took the character and molded it into a Spidey type of edgy. Before Deadpool was a rip off of Deathstroke with little unimaginative potential.Spider-Man is the original, the alpha and omega of wisecracking smart assed based superheros, just like Bugs was the original snarker wise guy of the looney toons. Deadpool is the anti spidey. Him wanting to be a accepted hero, him talking his enmies to death and him struggling to keep his life together despite being a trained killer. His main focus is cheap shits and giggles with more random wolverine apperences, not unlike Joe Kelly's run.
Except Deadpool is awesome. crackers