Eternity rarely (if ever) appears in his multiversal form. The Eternity we usually see is just the representation of 616 time and spac.e
Eternity represents a multiverse in his totality, not the omniverse, as it's been stated the other multiverses have abstract features (and as such, abstract entities) that are unrecognisable to those within 616.
ANYWAY, this all being said, Lucifer can just do to Jasper's what he did to the giants who received God's power, by nuking Jaspers when he was a powerless child.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
multi eternity is far older than galactus. its 616 universe eternity which is younger than big g
We can't say that for sure, for all we know every universe in each multiverse is on the same time cycle.
As in, there was a previous multiverse, which contained Galan's universe, then that entire multiverse came to the end of it's life cycle, then from the Crunch of that multiverse came the current multiverse, containing the current 616 universe.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfishi thought i was only 1 universe?
We can't say that for sure, for all we know every universe in each multiverse is on the same time cycle.As in, there was a previous multiverse, which contained Galan's universe, then that entire multiverse came to the end of it's life cycle, then from the Crunch of that multiverse came the current multiverse, containing the current 616 universe.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i thought i was only 1 universe?
Well, it was the previous 616 universe, which would logically be in a previous 616 multiverse, if that makes sense.
I mean, we usually see parallel universes being on the same time scale, so it would make sense that as Galan's universe was dying at the end of creation, so to would the other universes within that multiverse.
Meh, it doesn't matter, either way Lucifer is stomping here.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfishbut isnt there an alternate universe where galan never became galactus?
Well, it was the previous 616 universe, which would logically be in a previous 616 multiverse, if that makes sense.I mean, we usually see parallel universes being on the same time scale, so it would make sense that as Galan's universe was dying at the end of creation, so to would the other universes within that multiverse.
Meh, it doesn't matter, either way Lucifer is stomping here.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
He hasn't.Now proof that Luifer can warp the omniverse, make the multi-verse + the universal abstracts his beatch?
Jasper warps are a side-effect of the use of his powers. Not even 616-Jaspers can warp the omniverse at his whim.
Lucifer is stated to be the second most-powerful being in universe. He's created multiple multiverses from nothing more than undifferentiated energy, and they've survived the test of time. He's destroyed the dimension of Tsukuyomi by passing through it. He's tanked the release of the Demiurgic power from Michael (which would have annihilated all of creation). Death of the Endless admitted that she had no power over him.
The funniest thing people bring up in MJJ threads is,
"he can just bfr him to unspace" 😆
As if that shit is so easy.
Lucifer created a Universe then he claimed it was a Multiverse. Nice.
Lucifer tanked a Multiversal big bang without a scratch. Nice.
Matrix/Merlyn created an Omniversal Nexus (Starlight Citadel)
(an infinite monitor & passage way to all Universes in Marvel)
Matrix/Merlyn created the Celestial Nullifier
(it can erase any Universe in the Omniverse)
Matrix/Merlyn created Otherworld
(a magical Universe)
Matrix/Merlyn has toyed with he prime Multiverse just to train Roma
(he did this with a chess board which he connected the prime Multiverse's life-force to)
238 MJJ >>> Matrix/Merlyn
616 MJJ >>> 238 MJJ
The major difference between 616 & 238 Jaspers, is durability,
but both were capable of Omniversal dominance.
Luckily for ALL Reality though, there was his personal plot device (the Fury) to stop him.
The ONLY thing in all creation in that arc that could stop Jaspers.
Originally posted by Johnny SorrowNothing in that scan states that Eternity can create multiverses under his own power out of something that has no material form.
Multiverses (as in what, two?) if that.
While 616 Eternity in the scan is witnessed by Dormy
killing and recreating entire Universes all day,
and actually having the power to rebirth ALL UniverseS!!
All UniverseS sure sounds like the Omniverse.
Not to mention that Roma herself during the Abraxas arc stated that Eternity contains "everything that ever was, is or will be"
What do you think "everything that ever was, is or will be" is to Roma?
Uhh, the Omniverse anyone? Since she like guards it with the CN.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Jasper warps are a side-effect of the use of his powers. Not even 616-Jaspers can warp the omniverse at his whim.Lucifer is stated to be the second most-powerful being in universe. He's created multiple multiverses from nothing more than undifferentiated energy, and they've survived the test of time. He's destroyed the dimension of Tsukuyomi by passing through it. He's tanked the release of the Demiurgic power from Michael (which would have annihilated all of creation). Death of the Endless admitted that she had no power over him.
Lucifer isn't the second most powerful in his universe. Mandrakk and CA Superman are more powerful than him. Same goes for the Ultimator and WF Mxy.
He's created multiple multiverses from nothing more than undifferentiated energy, and they've survived the test of time. He's destroyed the dimension of Tsukuyomi by passing through it. He's tanked the release of the Demiurgic power from Michael (which would have annihilated all of creation). Death of the Endless admitted that she had no power over him.
And?
You speak as if Jaspers wouldn't survive that and Death had power over him.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lucifer isn't the second most powerful in his universe. Mandrakk and CA Superman are more powerful than him. Same goes for the Ultimator and WF Mxy.He's created multiple multiverses from nothing more than undifferentiated energy, and they've survived the test of time. He's destroyed the dimension of Tsukuyomi by passing through it. He's tanked the release of the Demiurgic power from Michael (which would have annihilated all of creation). Death of the Endless admitted that she had no power over him.
And?
You speak as if Jaspers wouldn't survive that and Death had power over him.
Last time I'm responding to your sorry ass.
Lucifer is stated to be the second most-powerful being in existence (or at least within the DC universe). He's more powerful than his brother because he has greater control over his own abilities. Mandrakk couldn't take on the Supermen of the Multiverse (who only hit him with their laser vision). CA Superman died after pushing Mandrakk off that cliff. Sure both of them are up there, but they don't have the feats to surpass Lucifer. They don't even have the exposure and only appeared in Final Crisis.
WF is not canon. Ultimator never existed.
Both 616 and 238-Jaspers died.
Since either you either ignore my points or go off-topic, I don't expect a competent response.