Darth Maul probably has edge?
He is aggressive but patient.
He was raised from an early age to be a weapon, tempered by harsh, abusive training to become an incredible warrior.
While the General Grievous' unorthodox fighting style and quantity of weapons will make this fight difficult, he lacks the finesse of Maul in close quarter combat. Also, Grievous often used alternate means to defeat tough opponents (e.g. Nahdar Vebb, and Eeth Koth).
Maul, on the other hand, proved to be too much for even highly skilled Jedi Masters (e.g. Anoon Bondara, and Qui-Gon Jinn).
Originally posted by DARTH POWERIn the General Grievous series, a padawan says that GG had "murdered hundredS of Jedi" (and that was just after the battle of Geonosis) -- though you're right, that number could also be including the Jedi killed by his troops.
Thats because hes a brillaint startegist and in charge of the droid army.
Nowhere are we told that hes killed that many in saber fights.
However, in the same series Mace says: "he bested so many great Jedi on Hypori and elsewhere, taking their lightsabers as prizes." So Mace himself credited GG with killing a large number of [great] Jedi, all by his lonesome (and again, that was not long after the war began.)
Finally, here's and excerpt from Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous: "In his wake, Grievous left a trail of dissected Jedi, as many as 100 of whom he personally killed."
So yeah, I'll go ahead and say that GG slew no less than 100 Jedi during his reign. Not too shabby for a non-force-sensitive.
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But more on point: a.) Maul has done nothing suggestive of him being able to overcome Grievous (especially in a pure saber battle, without the force to aid him offensively.) b.) Maul's battle with Silus showed us that it is rather easy to get his will/confidence to falter if you know what buttons to push. And when that happens, he becomes, for lack of better words, a huge pussy -- and GG excels in breaking his opponent's spirit (though I highly doubt that he would need to travel that route to win.) Just another option, is all.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
no.
Nice. But Over ruled.
Your forgetting despite his clumsiness that got him killed, in the actual Saber fight he was more than a match for TPM Qui-Gon and TPM ObiWan together. Read TPM novel if you dnt believe me.
Whilst GG is NO MATCH whatsoever for CW Kit Fisto, or CW Agen Kolar or CW Obi-Wan individually. And thats T-Canon confirmed for you.
And Fisto and Kolar go down to Sidious in what 2 seconds. Whilst Maul has shown he can actually contend with Sidious in Sabers for more than a few seconds at least!
Oh and TPM Qui-Gon was good enough to be on the council, and used to spar with Mace and draw. So no, GG dnt have a chance.
Originally posted by Q99
I do get the impression most of the Jedi Grievous killed were rank-and-file knights and Padawan caught on their own, though.
Yes exactly. Theres no Great Jedi Warrior he killed. He came closest with Ki-Adi-Mundi, but that wasnt a fair fight as Mundi was exhausted before he took on GG.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERDespite what the Essential Guide says, if Qui-Gon and Mace were truly equals in saber to saber combat, then that would make Maul > Mace, by proxy (which is utter nonsense.)
Oh and TPM Qui-Gon was good enough to be on the council, and used to spar with Mace and draw. So no, GG dnt have a chance.
Aside from that, I have a really hard time believing that an alleged 'Mace level duelist' (Maul) could be WTF owned by a Padawan momentarily tapping the dark side (Obi.)
Originally posted by john allerdyce
Despite what the Essential Guide says, if Qui-Gon and Mace were truly equals in saber to saber combat, then that would make Maul > Mace, by proxy (which is utter nonsense.)Aside from that, I have a really hard time believing that an alleged 'Mace level duelist' (Maul) could be WTF owned by a Padawan momentarily tapping the dark side (Obi.)
Maybe Mace was less good at the time. Qui-Gon's death was after all about thirteen years before Mace fought Palpatine, and when they sparred together was likely even earlier.
In 13 years, I could see Mace going from 'on the level of a council person like Mundi, maybe a bit more' to, well, what we see.
Originally posted by Q99Precisely. And as long as that distinction is clearly made, then I have no problem comparing Maul/Qui-Gon/Mace. But the other guy didn't make that distinction.
Maybe Mace was less good at the time. Qui-Gon's death was after all about thirteen years before Mace fought Palpatine, and when they sparred together was likely even earlier.In 13 years, I could see Mace going from 'on the level of a council person like Mundi, maybe a bit more' to, well, what we see.
Oh and I thought this was interesting... "The final battle with Darth Maul in the Theed power generator was fast, furious, and fatal. Qui-Gon, a master duelist by anyone's standards, no longer had the stamina of his youth. The Sith lord stabbed him through his chest." - From the New Essential Guide to Characters.
Maul capitalized on his geriatricness. 🙂
Originally posted by john allerdyce
The Sith Lord was supple and quick, and he worked his way between the Jedi with confidence and ease, whipping his two-ended lightsaber back and forth between them, more than holding his own against their efforts to bring him down. He was skilled, Anakin saw-more skilled, perhaps, than the men he faced. And he was confident in a way that was disturbing. He would not be overcome easily.
This was Maul. The same Maul that killed Anoon. The same Maul that killed Mace's equal.
Despite what the Essential Guide says, if Qui-Gon and Mace were truly equals in saber to saber combat, then that would make Maul > Mace, by proxy (which is utter nonsense.)
l2superconductingloop
he can handle four.
Six.
In addition to this, Grievous had repulsorlifts built into his legs, allowing his feet to double as hands. This would allow him to wield six lightsabers all at once.