Star Wars Blu-ray Set in the Works Official !!!

Originally posted by S_D_J
I didn't look right because it was Hayden, that's the whole problem
(to be honest this bothers me more than Vader's Nooo!)

anyways, he's wearing those clothes because it's just his head impose over Sebastian Shaw's body, they just copy/paste the head in there

I know. If Lucas was going to do it, he should have just shot Hayden in his robes and put him over Shaw completely; if he was going to do it, do it completely right, like digital Yoda over unconvincing puppet Yoda from TPM.

Originally posted by roughrider
I know. If Lucas was going to do it, he should have just shot Hayden in his robes and put him over Shaw completely; if he was going to do it, do it completely right, like digital Yoda over unconvincing puppet Yoda from TPM.

That would be nice if he actually fixed that. With hadens clothes. There are some things that need to be changed like the wampas face when we first see it cause it has no horns.

WTF! How is R2-D2 supposed to get out of this?

Originally posted by roughrider
I think instead it creates a parallel with Vader near the end of ROTS, when he realizes his terrible actions to save Padme instead turned around to cause her death. Standing there watching Luke being slowly killed by the Emperor, I think Vader realizes he was doing it all again, being a party to the death of his own blood so to speak. I think that's where the "NO!" comes from: it was time for the monstrous rule of the Emperor, and his own empty existence, to come to an end. It was finally time for something good to come from his actions, for the first time since the fall of the Jedi Order.

And you know what? I was there in a theatre on opening weekend in 1983. If Vader had said those words then as well, we wouldn't even have heard him, the theatre broke into such deafening cheers and applause at seeing him pick up the Emperor and hurl him down the shaft.

Vader doesn't make a silent sacrifice anyway, with the dialogue on the platform with Luke and the reveal of his face. So nothing really has changed expect Lucas has punched up the moment more.

That's where all of this bullshit is coming from, making parallels to the Prequels. If anything, the parallels should have been in the prequels to things that are from the OT. Adding crap to the old movies to match the new movies is completely backwards.

Originally posted by ares834

WTF! How is R2-D2 supposed to get out of this?

Are you ****ing serious?! God damn you Lucas!

EDIT: Where did you find this?

Here you go.

Originally posted by ares834
Here you go.

Thanks, I posted this to www.reddit.com/r/starwars to get the word out.

Originally posted by ares834

WTF! How is R2-D2 supposed to get out of this?

Oh my!!!

that's just retarded, what the f was wrong in the original to begin with?

It's not bad or game-changing... just unnecessary

😐

Here's some more changes

http://imgur.com/a/uKl8e

and my personal favorite:

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😂

Those are amazing... And the sad thing is I'm expecting to see these in the 3D versions.

The one of Anakin/Padme Force ghosts actually looks well done. If their relationship ended differently and the ghosts were allowed to be more than just Jedi, I could see it in the movie.

Originally posted by ares834
😂

Those are amazing... And the sad thing is I'm expecting to see these in the 3D versions.

the 3D versions! just imagine what changes those will have...

the possibilities are endless!!!

Originally posted by LanceWindu
The one of Anakin/Padme Force ghosts actually looks well done. If their relationship ended differently and the ghosts were allowed to be more than just Jedi, I could see it in the movie.

it is well done...until you look at Obi's robe and notice something missing...

oh shit!, don't let Lucas see that one, it will give him more ideas

Originally posted by S_D_J
the 3D versions! just imagine what changes those will have...

the possibilities are endless!!!

More Jar Jar antics! Just imagine when he steps in the "icky icky goo", he shakes his foot and SHIT flies at the audience.

Originally posted by LanceWindu
More Jar Jar antics! Just imagine when he steps in the "icky icky goo", he shakes his foot and SHIT flies at the audience.

😆

Tatooine has a floating dick every sunset

Originally posted by LanceWindu
That's where all of this bullshit is coming from, making parallels to the Prequels. If anything, the parallels should have been in the prequels to things that are from the OT. Adding crap to the old movies to match the new movies is completely backwards.

Guess what: there are fans of Star Wars much younger than us who think the prequels look better than the old ones. Lucas and the others at Lucasfilm are aware of this, and know they are the future fans of all this. You may think he's catering to fans who don't know any better, but the truth is this has been a gigantic work in progress for Lucas since he added the extra title 'Episode IV - A New Hope' to the first opening scrawl in 1981. He had the narrative direction worked out, but not every nook and cranny of the story was put down then in the time of the OT. I recognized what he was doing (when he was finally ready to start the prequels) when the Special Editions came out in 1997: he wants all the films to have a uniform look, that new fans could watch it seamlessly from one end to the other, and not have the limited tech he was pushing in the 70's & 80's detract from things. Fans like yourself are acting like the studio heads he bought his freedom from decades ago - you think you own something you don't. He Owns It.

I think I can recall the very beginning of 'Lucas Bashing' (it's like discovering the source of the Nile) - a TIME magazine article in January 1997 when the re-release of Star Wars was the front page story. Some ringleader of a fan club was complaining about how Lucas expanded Mos Eisley spaceport with all the extra creatures & ships; in other words, to look more like what Lucas wanted in 1977 but couldn't afford. "It's so busy and overcrowded!" he complained. The sniping just kept coming for the next fourteen years... 🙄

What I have always felt is that all the changes are additions, not subtractions. The films all get to the same place they did when they first released. You want an example of Director's Cuts that dramatically change the message and subtext of a film, look to Ridley Scott's reworkings of both Blade Runner and Legend. Those films were transformed in something meaningfully different in their Special Editions. Star Wars wasn't so much changed as it was updated.

Originally posted by roughrider
[B] He had the narrative direction worked out, but not every nook and cranny of the story was put down then in the time of the OT.

He hardly had anything planned out when "Star Wars" was first released. Leia was not Luke sister, the Emperor was a puppet for the Moffs, and Vader was not Anakin Skywalker.

Fans like yourself are acting like the studio heads he bought his freedom from decades ago - you think you own something you don't. He Owns It.

No one is saying he can't change it just that he shouldn't... But if he does change it it should be for the better. And so far almost every change he does just makes the films worse and takes away the charm.

What I have always felt is that all the changes are additions, not subtractions. The films all get to the same place they did when they first released. You want an example of Director's Cuts that dramatically change the message and subtext of a film, look to Ridley Scott's reworkings of both Blade Runner and Legend. Those films were transformed in something meaningfully different in their Special Editions. Star Wars wasn't so much changed as it was updated.

Sure. But Ridley Scott's Blade Runner has not only two but four diffrent versions of the film in the set including the theatrical version of the film. If Lucas just manned up and released the original versions people wouldn't be bitching no matter how many changes he added, but for some reason he wants to kick them under the rug and only allow his newest (inferior) versions to stand. I'm baffled really.

Originally posted by roughrider
Guess what: there are fans of Star Wars much younger than us who think the prequels look better than the old ones. Lucas and the others at Lucasfilm are aware of this, and know they are the future fans of all this. You may think he's catering to fans who don't know any better, but the truth is this has been a gigantic work in progress for Lucas since he added the extra title 'Episode IV - A New Hope' to the first opening scrawl in 1981. He had the narrative direction worked out, but not every nook and cranny of the story was put down then in the time of the OT. I recognized what he was doing (when he was finally ready to start the prequels) when the Special Editions came out in 1997: he wants all the films to have a uniform look, that new fans could watch it seamlessly from one end to the other, and not have the limited tech he was pushing in the 70's & 80's detract from things. Fans like yourself are acting like the studio heads he bought his freedom from decades ago - you think you own something you don't. He Owns It.

I think I can recall the very beginning of 'Lucas Bashing' (it's like discovering the source of the Nile) - a TIME magazine article in January 1997 when the re-release of Star Wars was the front page story. Some ringleader of a fan club was complaining about how Lucas expanded Mos Eisley spaceport with all the extra creatures & ships; in other words, to look more like what Lucas wanted in 1977 but couldn't afford. "It's so busy and overcrowded!" he complained. The sniping just kept coming for the next fourteen years... 🙄

What I have always felt is that all the changes are additions, not subtractions. The films all get to the same place they did when they first released. You want an example of Director's Cuts that dramatically change the message and subtext of a film, look to Ridley Scott's reworkings of both Blade Runner and Legend. Those films were transformed in something meaningfully different in their Special Editions. Star Wars wasn't so much changed as it was updated.

The spaceport IS overcrowded, and it's overcrowded with sight gags that have nothing to do with the story, just to showcase CGI and be slapstick.

All we ask is for a definitive copy of the original trilogy. He can cram as much crap into the movies as he wants as long as we get a separate release for the untainted versions. Let me CHOOSE the movie I want to see.

Well, for all of us asking for definitive versions of the Original Trilogy? We have a while yet to wait, apprently. I swear I'm gonna kill George. He has apparently decided to throw some audio "tweaks" to the OT.

It's the last story of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGbO0mqLxwc&feature=feedu_more

Originally posted by General G
Well, for all of us asking for definitive versions of the Original Trilogy? We have a while yet to wait, apprently. I swear I'm gonna kill George. He has apparently decided to throw some audio "tweaks" to the OT.

It's the last story of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGbO0mqLxwc&feature=feedu_more

You're a page or two late. We've already been bitching about this.

Geez it's been awhile since I posted in this thread or since I've given a shit about star wars at all. I guess watching The People Vs. George Lucas piqued my interest again and then I saw the supposed new changes on youtube. I think with this hopefully being the final round of changes, George can actually save face and make everyone happy, including the old fans that have been pissed at him since 1997.
1. Keep the new Krayt call. It sounds trippy, badass, and truly alien.
2. Han is the only one that shoots, anything else looks ridiculous.
3. Clean up all the lightsabers in the OT.
4. Rerecord the entire score to ANH, maybe with a few small cues from the other movies. The original recording is terrible with the brass recorded completely inappropriately.
5. The Prequel scores sound lifeless because of digital recording. Run the entire set through a warm '59 Fender Bassman amplifier and then remix. Also tone down the soundtrack a bit in the film, making appropriate cuts where it's over the top. No one likes a movie that holds your hand and tells you how to feel.
6. CGI Yoda is fine in Phantom Menace, the puppet for that movie looked like shit.
7. Redo the song in Jabba's Palace completely, the original is dated and silly, the new one is a cartoon.
8. Completely reedit Phantom Menace and Sith, even if it means hiring Jimmy Smits and Liam Neeson for reshoots. This and Sith have a real problem with cutting and anorexia and trampling over important plot points.
9. Redub a better actor for Jake Lloyd. If you could do it with Beru, you can do it with the brat from Jingle all the way.
10. Change Vader's NOOOOOO into a generic growl/scream.
11. I'm pretty ambivelant about the new noooo's in Jedi. The scene always seemed like it was missing something but I'm not sure if this is it.
12. No CGI ewok eyelids. CGI eyelids bad because they look like a camera mistake. CGI eyelids were the ONLY bad thing about the Star Trek remasters.
13. Reinsert the scene in Jedi where Vader ****s up a red guard.
14. Reedit the Dooku duel in Clones to make it less confusing. Like why does Anakin pass out? It looks like he was dropped rather gently. Shock form his arm? head injury?
15. Edit Yub chub and the new Jedi end theme into one. One ends on the root note of the other after all. Edit the ending to better fit this.

This one actually looks real. Plus I can see Lucas doing that. Kudo's on the guy who did it.

Nyan.