Darth Maul v. General Grievous
Got the idea from the Star Wars versus forum where a similar thread exists..
changes from Star Wars thread
1) this is Grievous as shown in ROTS where he has all four lightsabers
2) this is Maul as shown in TPM
Sidious has pitted Maul against Grievous for the right to go after and look for other jedi. takes place in the Geonosis battle area
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]Used force powers,
he used force push.
showed speed and agility that trumped GG
such as?
had Obi Wan (you know, the Jedi who killed GG) beat.
i wasnt aware apprentice TPM obi-wan= RotS 15 years older jedi master obi wan in skill and power. besides, TPM obi-wan also put maul on his ass and chopped his lightsaber in half. congratulations.
Force crush the heart, yo.
i dont remember maul using force crush ever, but i guess he knows how to use it, just like obi-wan can use force lightning. amirite.
im being sarcastic; everything youre saying is wrong 😐
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
he used force push.such as?
i wasnt aware apprentice TPM obi-wan= RotS 15 years older jedi master obi wan in skill and power. besides, TPM obi-wan also put maul on his ass and chopped his lightsaber in half. congratulations.
i dont remember maul using force crush ever, but i guess he knows how to use it, just like obi-wan can use force lightning. amirite.
im being sarcastic; everything youre saying is wrong 😐
He used force push and he grabbed that piece of debris to hurl and open a door. He displayed adequate levels of TK power.
Such as? Watch the duel again, he and Obi Wan are fighting at breakneck speeds.
Yeah, he underestimated Obi Wan. He pwned the shit outta Qui Gon, you saying TPM Obi Wan was a better duelist than Qui Gon? Bong.
This has already been covered. Force methods such as Force choke and force crush are all TK, Maul displayed TK, all he would need to do is target the heart with his TK and apply that much harder of a force hold on it. Or he could simply force push GG away every time GG got close and strike him down at his leisure.
I'm being literal, everything I am saying is right. Maul would tear G apart.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]He used force push and he grabbed that piece of debris to hurl and open a door. He displayed adequate levels of TK power.
he grabbed a piece of debris that looked like it barely weighed twenty pounds and force pushed a regular sized man ten feet. thats not impressive at all.
Such as? Watch the duel again, he and Obi Wan are fighting at breakneck speeds.no they werent.
Yeah, he underestimated Obi Wan. He pwned the shit outta Qui Gon, you saying TPM Obi Wan was a better duelist than Qui Gon? Bong.
are you saying TPM obi-wan is a better duelist than RotS obi-wan? 😐 cause thats kind of what you were implying with "beat the guy who beat grievous". which is ridiculous.
This has already been covered. Force methods such as Force choke and force crush are all TK, Maul displayed TK, all he would need to do is target the heart with his TK and apply that much harder of a force hold on it. Or he could simply force push GG away every time GG got close and strike him down at his leisure.
whoever "covered" that was wrong then.
haermm K, man, whatever TK is TK, dude. How it is used it up to the force wielder. There's really no room for debate here.
What is being done here is this. A badass Sith lord with force powers is being pitted against a robotic opponent with no force powers. Maul can, on his worst day, match GG in speed and swordsmanship. Add on force powers and Maul wins 10/10. It's like taking two gunmen equal in skill, arming one with a derringer and one with an Uzi.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm K, man, whatever TK is TK, dude. How it is used it up to the force wielder. There's really no room for debate here.What is being done here is this. A badass Sith lord with force powers is being pitted against a robotic opponent with no force powers. Maul can, on his worst day, match GG in speed and swordsmanship. Add on force powers and Maul wins 10/10. It's like taking two gunmen equal in skill, arming one with a derringer and one with an Uzi.
no.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm K, man, whatever TK is TK, dude. How it is used it up to the force wielder. There's really no room for debate here.What is being done here is this. A badass Sith lord with force powers is being pitted against a robotic opponent with no force powers. Maul can, on his worst day, match GG in speed and swordsmanship. Add on force powers and Maul wins 10/10. It's like taking two gunmen equal in skill, arming one with a derringer and one with an Uzi.
no.
Originally posted by ImpedimentMaul was not a throwaway villain. Lucas threw him away. Might have been the cheapest death in movie-dom. Maul was the single greatest thing about the PT. What exactly did Grievous do onscreen besides cough, weeze, run from danger, get two of his hand cut off, and die.
Maul was a throwaway villain, bar none.Everyone make shim out to be such a bad ass, but he still was a cocky Sith apprentice who got split into two pieces by a Jedi apprentice.
Originally posted by Impediment... And killed a Jedi Master.
Maul was a throwaway villain, bar none.Everyone make shim out to be such a bad ass, but he still was a cocky Sith apprentice who got split into two pieces by a Jedi apprentice.
Grievous still wins though.
In the Movies, Maul did nothing particularly extraordinary, and if crushing his heart with the Force is so damn easy... Why has no one done it? Well I guess Mace Windu kind of did it in the cartoon, but that is the same Mace Windu who was the second strongest Jedi alive at that point, and the same cartoon where Windu took on an army of Droids without a weapon and was Hulk jumping in the field.
Also, Maul's TK abilities in the movies were basic at best, he showed an "alright" Force Push, but his only graspinh feat was on an object that weighed like fifteen pounds...
Grievous with his four arms is able to use his sabers like a buzz-saw, Obi-Wan beat it yeah, the same OB who was one of the best duelists in the order at the time, and had a more defense-oriented Saber style even in the movies, compared to Maul's overly aggressive style, the one that would get him sawed to pieces by Grievous' saber buzzsaw.
Originally posted by NemeBro
... And killed a Jedi Master.Grievous still wins though.
In the Movies, Maul did nothing particularly extraordinary, and if crushing his heart with the Force is so damn easy... Why has no one done it? Well I guess Mace Windu kind of did it in the cartoon, but that is the same Mace Windu who was the second strongest Jedi alive at that point, and the same cartoon where Windu took on an army of Droids without a weapon and was Hulk jumping in the field.
Also, Maul's TK abilities in the movies were basic at best, he showed an "alright" Force Push, but his only graspinh feat was on an object that weighed like fifteen pounds...
Grievous with his four arms is able to use his sabers like a buzz-saw, Obi-Wan beat it yeah, the same OB who was one of the best duelists in the order at the time, and had a more defense-oriented Saber style even in the movies, compared to Maul's overly aggressive style, the one that would get him sawed to pieces by Grievous' saber buzzsaw.
Duly noted.
Maul was tough, I agree, but his screen feats, compared to GG were very undermined.