Mace v Anakin

Done before, but no consensus.

GO

Also Mace doesn't get shatterpoint.

Also ROTS Anakin.

Mace.

He wins easier if Anakin has already fallen to the dark side.

Mace. Anakin had the potential to get stronger but he wasn't there yet.

Thing is, Anakin keeps getting stronger.

Mace keeps matching his strength.

No shatterpoint.

How does this go down?

Mace defeated Sidious in a duel. Anakin isn't on par with either. He's great though.

if mace wins its by the skin of his teeth. despite winning against sideous due to shatterpoint and vapaad, neither of which is available to him here, hes considered to be around dooku level... anakin is above and beyond that tier in terms of bladework...

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
vapaad

When did I say it wasn't? Shatterpoint is the only restriction, to even things up.

Why wouldn't Mace have access to Vapaad? It's his form.

because anakin doesnt give off an evil dark side aura that mace can use to strengthen himself and weaken anakin with, so the super natural effects of vapaad are useless here.

unless youre referring to dark side rots anakin. *shrug* anakin versus dooky anakin could take a majority though imo

I thought it was common knowledge that ROTS Anakin = dark side.

He gives off energy. That's how he defeated Dooku. He just unleashes pure hate once he becomes Sith.

I don't see Anakin on top tier level along with Yoda, Sidious, Mace.

he wasnt utilizing the dark side against dooku im pretty sure until the very end, definitely not in the ssame vain as when he was using it against obi-wan

Mace wipes the floor with him.

This one is interesting because if Anakin is in his weaker lightside form, Mace is also weaker because he would not be fighting a dark jedi, but if Anakin is in his stronger darkside form, Mace would be able to use vapaad, and would also be stronger. Either way, even with Anakin's high midichlorian count etc. etc. I still feel like Mace just has way too much experience for Anakin to take the win here.

could you extrapolate on experience? dooku got demolished.

like anakin, but master windu for the victory

Shatterpoint doesn't give Mace automatic wins. In our hypothetical matches, we offer no variables for Shatterpoint to pinpoint.

But he still has Vaapad.

And it really does matter what Anakin this is. There are three version of Anakin as of RotS: "tEh Z0ne" Anakin, Light Side Anakin, and Vader.

Zone Anakin I think would win 6/10 times, roughly. He has such lucidity, such strength, without succumbing to the full effects of the Dark Side. Vaapad won't be nearly as useful here as was against Palaptine.

Light Anakin is dead, no question about it.

Vader is too, but his sheer ferocity would drag the match out longer than Light Anakin. Vaapad FTW.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
if mace wins its by the skin of his teeth. despite winning against sideous [b]due to shatterpoint and vapaad, neither of which is available to him here, hes considered to be around dooku level... anakin is above and beyond that tier in terms of bladework... [/B]

Mace is above Dooku level.

There's Yoda/Sidious/Mace level

Then there's Obi-Wan/Dooku level. Anakin is closer to that level.

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Dooku is NOT on the same tier as Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
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Dooku is NOT on the same tier as Obi-Wan.

Lower?

Dooku lost to Anakin, Obi-Wan beat Anakin...

In any case, not the same tier as Mace.