Whether the other duelists are dark siders or not, Vaapad would still pose one of the biggest threats... It's user is still free to channel their own inner darkness, after all.
As for Soresu vs. Vaapad, I'm still not sure. Soresu poses a nigh-insurmountable defense, while Vaapad poses a nigh-insurmountable offense (a true "unstoppable force meets an immovable object" type of scenario.) And since all things are equal in this match, it really just comes down to which form enables the best stamina - but I personally haven't seen a user of either form tire from fatigue, so I can't be certain either way.
I am leaning towards Vaapad, though.
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Originally posted by Galan007I doubt Ataru could keep the pace for too long. Probably Form III or V.
It really comes down to which form has the best efficiency to power ratio. That's why Ataru would be one of the top contenders (likely even THE top contender.)Meh I'm thinking it would come down to Ataru vs. Vaapad... Toss a coin for that one.
djem so also involves using your own strength to produce heavy and violent blows. therefore its one of the most energy draining of the styles.
the fact of the matter is this: as long as all of the combatents are completely equal, the form that requires the least amount of energy to use will be the best.
The winning form still has to have that good efficiency to power ratio I talked about earlier. For instance, Shii-Cho may be a very efficient form because it doesn't require much energy output to maintain. However, that still doesn't mean it's going to compare to most of the other forms which bring a higher efficiency/power ratio to the table.
well in a one on one match that would be true. however in a slobber knocker like this a good offense isnt necessary, because the fact that there's 7 other people fighting with other deadly forms provides the most powerful offense you can really have. a soresu only has to expend the minimal energy required to keep himself alive until the end of the match, and by the time its down to only a few people the offense driven forms will be exhausted.
i see it coming down to makashi and soresu honestly. imo vapaad is too violent for it be affective for long amounts of time
A good offense would be as necessary as a good defense if, say, 3-4 of the other duelists were to attack you at once. In that scenario, even the best of the best defensive form would eventually crack under the pressure if it couldn't also deliver a powerful offensive assault, when needed. That is all I meant.
I personally don't see Makashi making it to the top two. a.) it isn't an ideal form vs. multiple opponents, and b.) it lacks the kinetic force to keep up with the raw power some of the other forms bring to the table.
Originally posted by Galan007
A good offense would be as necessary as a good defense if, say, 3-4 of the other duelists were to attack you at once. In that scenario, even the best of the best defensive form would eventually crack under the pressure if it couldn't also deliver a powerful offensive assault, when needed. That is all I meant.
oh! i agree with you then ✅
I personally don't see Makashi making it to the top two. a.) it isn't an ideal form vs. multiple opponents, and b.) it lacks the kinetic force to keep up with the raw power some of the other forms bring to the table.
hmmmm.... yeah. i guess youre right
You are describing a scenario where 3 or 4 attack one. This would kill ANYONE in this thread. Soresu is still the best shot. Doesn't matter what form anyone is using, if 3 or 4 of these master swordsmen attack him, he's dead. We have to assume that doesn't happen to the winner, or we are back to picking at random.
Chances are the combatants wouldn't try and take on the Soresu user since he/she would be too tough to take down and would drain the attacker's energy too much. They'll probably go for whatever that form was that was more tailored towards deflecting blasters than lightsaber dueling.
So I doubt that any of them would go after the Soresu or Makashi due to them both being formidable in this situation, but isn't it said that Makashi is good against Soresu and the form Anakin used (Form 5?) is good against Makashi? Ah well.
In the end it would probably be Soresu vs Makashi vs Vapaad. The Ataru user likely wouldn't last long due to the heavy stamina required to use the form. In this case, the three would likely be at a standoff, none wanting to make the first move. The Soresu user may likely be the least tired though, since he likely had little to no combat in the big fight.