Kratos vs. Machamp

Started by Ms.Marvel11 pages

and the pokedex already having data on pokemon yet still requiring you to find them in order for you to see it, is a plot hole.

Wait, so you're confused as to how it gets the information? Well, in the anime it's just a scan.

In the games you can't scan during a battle because you're in a battle. Kinda have your hands full with some other stuff.

"Don't go out into the tall grass! Wild Pokemon live there!"

Nah, that would destroy the point of Nintendo keeping most of the new pokemon rosters a secret when they release a new generation.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, a plot hole is where aspects of the plot don't make sense. The professor giving you something to record data on isn't a plot hole. It already having data is incidental, the only thing questionable is why it doesn't list everythign in the beginning of the game.

In new generations, that's obvious: SPOILERS, also, would kinda kill the point of catching them all.

A universe where it's commonplace to hand out Weapons of Mass Destruction to children, goons in jump suits try to destroy the universe for lulz, and the common rodents can electrocute you so hard your nipples will never forgive you for that piecring in highschool, and how they learn information is the most troubling thing for you? 😛

Incase it was missed.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Wait, so you're confused as to how it gets the information? Well, in the anime it's just a scan.

how does "scanning" a pokemon determine what it can and can not do and how it behaves?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah, that would destroy the point of Nintendo keeping most of the new pokemon rosters a secret when they release a new generation.

Incase it was missed.

them doing it for out of universe reasons means thats its a plot hole, i dont think you understand what a plot hole is. it is not simple "an aspect of the plot that doesnt make sense". its an aspect of the plot that doesnt make sense within the universe. the writiers deliberately writing a plot hole doesnt mean that it isnt one

In the anime, it makes sense to a degree as you don't have to use the Pokedex at all to get the info cause its there.

In the games, the pokedex is given to you and you have to go find pokemon and catch them in order to get the full data. And that doesn't make sense. I understand the designers want you to catch them all so they can give you a nice little diploma and such but it still doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
how does "scanning" a pokemon determine what it can and can not do and how it behaves?
Easy, schizotech. 😐 They also had a time machine, random balls that convert you into light without any damage and reassmble you at any time, and souls can be kept in jars.

that doesnt answer my question though

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
that doesnt answer my question though
Yes it does, you asked how a scan does what it does, that is how. Pokemon tech is stupid.

well as long as we all agree that pokemon is stupid and doesnt make any ****ing sense at all, i guess its alright. back to hugs! hug

Do I get one? 😍

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negatory. For one, if Machamp knows every martial art ever, and Kratos is slow by comparison, if he throws a punch, his arm's gettign attacked, he'll probably end up flipped or something and then pummelled.

Also, your point is invalid, cutscenes show just how incredibly loudly the lightning is telegraphed. 😐

Reach is valid, but not enough to save him from Machamp's superior speed and technique, and Machamp is plenty strong enough to dent him, he's got four arms that do what Cronos does.

1. **** that knowing every martial art ever bullshit, we have only seen some grapples relying on brute force, punches, and chops. Same reason why as far as I am concerned Neo only knows Wu Shu, it is all that was displayed. Kratos has reacted to much faster than Machamp.

2. Gameplay says differently.

3. Reach is enough to allow Kratos to BFR him first. 🙂

1. **** that knowing every martial art ever bullshit, we have only seen some grapples relying on brute force, punches, and chops. Same reason why as far as I am concerned Neo only knows Wu Shu, it is all that was displayed. Kratos has reacted to much faster than Machamp.
Pokedex.
2. Gameplay says differently.

Cutscene >
3. Reach is enough to allow Kratos to BFR him first.

Negative, Kratos is the slower of the two, and Kratos can be BFR'd by his arm being attacked.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Pokedex.

Cutscene >

Negative, Kratos is the slower of the two, and Kratos can be BFR'd by his arm being attacked.

1. I accept its physical statistics, but unless that little gameboy can read minds, how does it know what martial arts it knows? Also contradicts itself, says that feats requiring dexterity tangle its arms... Kind of like martial arts.

2. Yet you were always so quick to use Link dodging Majora's whips. 🙂

3. Kratos has reacted to much faster than Machamp.

1. I accept its physical statistics, but unless that little gameboy can read minds, how does it know what martial arts it knows? Also contradicts itself, says that feats requiring dexterity tangle its arms... Kind of like martial arts.
Martial arts isn't delicate, which is a word specificly used. You're assuming it's referring to fighting, but has no indication of that. A later pokedex entry specificly mentions fine manipulations of the fingers being bad. To suggest a fightign type stated to know martial arts is bad at fighting is kind of silly. 😬
2. Yet you were always so quick to use Link dodging Majora's whips.
Find me a cutscene contradicting that. There's actually a cutscene contradicting your example.
3. Kratos has reacted to much faster than Machamp.
I hope you're not talking about lightning again?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Negatory. For one, if Machamp knows every martial art ever, and Kratos is slow by comparison, if he throws a punch, his arm's gettign attacked, he'll probably end up flipped or something and then pummelled.

Also, your point is invalid, cutscenes show just how incredibly loudly the lightning is telegraphed. 😐

Reach is valid, but not enough to save him from Machamp's superior speed and technique, and Machamp is plenty strong enough to dent him, he's got four arms that do what Cronos does.

-No. Kratos ain't slow by comparison.

-WTF? The sound obviously doesn't come BEFORE the lightning. Weak.

-No. Kratos got punched in the jaw by Zeus who is just as strong as he is, and he did not go flying.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Martial arts isn't delicate, which is a word specificly used. You're assuming it's referring to fighting, but has no indication of that. A later pokedex entry specificly mentions fine manipulations of the fingers being bad. To suggest a fightign type stated to know martial arts is bad at fighting is kind of silly. 😬

Find me a cutscene contradicting that. There's actually a cutscene contradicting your example.

I hope you're not talking about lightning again?

1. In one, it says care and dexterity in another... Which martial arts does require. Why would manipulation of the fingers tangle its arms? That makes no sense, and is for a totally different reason, imaging doing something like making origami I guess while being strong enough to push a mountain, sounds hard, huh? It is a fighting type, yes, but its only fighting abilities seem based around punched, chops, and grapples, all focusing on brute force. It powers through opponents.

2. That is a fallacious argument. Show me when Kratos could not deflect lightning after it was thrown and you will have a point, the fact that he could do both contradicts... Absolutely nothing. 😐

3. Why would I not be? Never been disproven. 🙂

1. In one, it says care and dexterity in another... Which martial arts does require. Why would manipulation of the fingers tangle its arms? That makes no sense, and is for a totally different reason, imaging doing something like making origami I guess while being strong enough to push a mountain, sounds hard, huh? It is a fighting type, yes, but its only fighting abilities seem based around punched, chops, and grapples, all focusing on brute force. It powers through opponents.
Ever tried doing fine manipulations with one han-..Oh, you have. 131

2. That is a fallacious argument. Show me when Kratos could not deflect lightning after it was thrown and you will have a point, the fact that he could do both contradicts... Absolutely nothing.
Show me when Kratos wait for Zeus to throw the lightning before he decided, hey, shit, lightning, and reacted then, just to be a show off?

We have a cutscene, where Zeus takes his sweet time to charge his laser, so to speak. 😐 We know he cannot instantly fire a lightning bolt, to assume KRatos waits to react is laaaame.

3. Why would I not be? Never been disproven.

See above.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ever tried doing fine manipulations with one han-..Oh, you have. 131

Show me when Kratos wait for Zeus to throw the lightning before he decided, hey, shit, lightning, and reacted then, just to be a show off?

We have a cutscene, where Zeus takes his sweet time to charge his laser, so to speak. 😐 We know he cannot instantly fire a lightning bolt, to assume KRatos waits to react is laaaame.

See above.

1. Doing one with each hand right now. 🙂

2. Different lightning clownshoes. One was charged, and was a stream of lightning affecting the entire area. The other was a single bult.

Show me when Kratos wait for Zeus to throw the lightning before he decided, hey, shit, lightning, and reacted then, just to be a show off? We have a cutscene, where Zeus takes his sweet time to charge his laser, so to speak. no expression We know he cannot instantly fire a lightning bolt, to assume KRatos waits to react is laaaame.

What the hell are you talking about?