Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ford.Constant. All the time. Consistent.
No Al, no DH2.
No Marv, no news chopper, the Colonel escapes.
No Zeus, Mac never solves the puzzles.
No Farrell, Mac and Lucy die.
A Crown Victoria is not a person.
So with that one example, your "constant" assertion is proved wrong. Moving on.
Yes, we've covered that McClane has had hero-support. This is common in action flicks, even Lethal Weapon, the buddy-cop franchise.
Originally posted by Robtard
A Crown Victoria is not a person.So with that one example, your "constant" assertion is proved wrong.
Yes, we've covered that McClane has had hero-support. This is common in action flicks, even Lethal Weapon, the buddy-cop franchise.
Mac has constant support, just as Riggs does. Nothing you say can change this.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
BTW Mac's taste in vehicles sucksFord= ****ed Over Rebuilt Dodge. Chevy (Riggs) >>>>>Ford.
Ford Crown Victoria's are one of the worlds (if not the) most highly tested/proven cars, police and taxi fleets have put billions and billions of miles on them. Those cars are ****ing tanks. Looks being subjective.
Another testament to McClane's genius, he picked the right car for the job needed at hand.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So the difference is between support feats, Rog was there hanging out? As opposed to Mac going solo, getting support, going solo, getting support, etc?
Nah Rog was there ASSIGNED to be Riggs Partner by a duly appointed superior in their Law Enforcement office.
You know, a Partner, who's job as a trained armed official in part is to provide back up for their partner. As a occupation. A job.
Full time.
Its what they do.
They even wake each other up in bed in the morning with coffee.
(Lw1)
Rescue each other in toilets.
(LW2)
Save each other's asses.
(All the films)
If Al or Zeus was McClanes partner, then Riggs needed the partnering of Launa, Rodger, The guy with the Hotdog/burger stand (He fed riggs with his stock at one point) Leo, All the other cops, Alfred and his gang of pals(LW1), The prostitute who Riggs picks up and is never seen/heard of again, (LW1😄C) The Asian family who move in with Roger (LW4) and many others who helped his ass.
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Originally posted by Sadako of GirthLameo.
Nah Rog was there ASSIGNED to be Riggs Partner by a duly appointed superior in their Law Enforcement office.You know, a Partner, who's job as a trained armed official in part is to provide back up for their partner. As a occupation. A job.
Full time.
Its what they do.
They even wake each other up in bed in the morning with coffee.
(Lw1)
Rescue each other in toilets.
(LW2)
Save each other's asses.
(All the films)If Al or Zeus was McClanes partner, then Riggs needed the partnering of Launa, Rodger, The guy with the Hotdog/burger stand (He fed riggs with his stock at one point) Leo, All the other cops, Alfred and his gang of pals(LW1), The prostitute who Riggs picks up and is never seen/heard of again, (LW1😄C) The Asian family who move in with Roger (LW4) and many others who helped his ass.
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So you agree that Mac had constant support. Good.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mac has constant support, just as Riggs does. Nothing you say can change this.
Yes, I'd have to agree. Hero-support was needed in the DH as well as the LW films for the plots to progress. Covered this already.
The difference though, Riggs also has/needs a partner. McClane is solo in this area. That's the point.
Proved your "constant" assertion to be wrong already. McClane did not have help with every scenario, that's what you're saying with "constant".
Originally posted by RobtardThere's nothing to argue, dude. Without his support, Mac loses the day. It's plain and simple.
Yes, I's have to agree. Hero-support was needed in the DH as well as the LW films for the plots to progress.The difference though, Riggs also has/needs a partner. McClane is solo in this area. That's the point.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Riggs had someone to hang out with, so? That makes him a people person. McClane? He's a toilet bug. No one can stand him.
That was just Walter downplaying (You're familiar with THAT strategy, aren't you RJ? 😖hifty: ) McClane to Simon hoping to disuade him from killing members of the public with another bomb attack.
Pretty obvious indeed.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthMac was a prick. A good guy, a kickass cop, a hero, but he was a prick.
That was just Walter downplaying (You're familiar with THAT strategy, aren't you RJ? 😖hifty: ) McClane to Simon hoping to disuade him from killing members of the public with another bomb attack.Pretty obvious indeed.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, for starters, Karl kills McClane, no DH2.No news chopper, Mac doesn't catch the jet.
No Zeus, the gangbangers rape Mac.
No Farrell, Mac dies.
Simple.
Ha. Faaaaaaaail.
Prove that Karl could have shot McClane from that range.
He couldn't do it at any other range with that Rifle in the entire movie.
So why would he suddenly be able to then...? EH? ANSWER THAT, EH..? 🙂
So he caught a ride. LOL 😂 Big deal. That means nothing.
Yeah but if there was nobody involved int he scenario there would BE no scenario.
No Farrell = No reason for McClane to get in the situation that you say he couldnt endure.. 🙄
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There's nothing to argue, dude. Without his support, Mac loses the day. It's plain and simple.
Yeah, no one's arguing that McClane did every aspect of any of his films without any outside help.
The argument is what a partner is and the fact that McClane doesn't have one or need one. He's a the lone hero. Riggs is partner-based.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ha. Faaaaaaaail.Prove that Karl could have shot McClane from that range.
He couldn't do it at any other range with that Rifle in the entire movie.
So why would he suddenly be able to then...? EH? ANSWER THAT, EH..? 🙂So he caught a ride. LOL 😂 Big deal. That means nothing.
Yeah but if there was nobody involved int he scenario there would BE no scenario.
No Farrell = No reason for McClane to get in the situation that you say he couldnt endure.. 🙄
Karl had a damn rifle. He could have made the shot.
Caught a ride? AND Zeus did most of the work solving the puzzles.
Farrell saved his life, dude, how Farrell got there is besides the point.