Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Expecto patronum, Vader "focuses" on the stag, Harry spells his ass.
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MAGICAL SPELLS!
Originally posted by Impediment
Harry Potter has over 100 spells that I was going to list, but I decided that it's not worth the effort. 100 spells for the boy wizard that he utilizes with a stick. He needs his magic stick to use these spells, as we have all seen on screen. Some spells, he doesn't need his stick, I'll admit. But attack/defense spells? Yeah, he needs the stick. Without his stick, he's a kid with a scar.Darth Vader has the Dark Side of the Force.
Before Potter can even raise his stick, then point the stick at Vader, inhale air into his lungs, then exhale the air in his lungs to utilize his vocal cords to recite a spell to cast at Vader, the Sith Lord, standing perfectly still with his labored breathing, uses Force Choke with the power of the Dark Side of the Force. The force choke can be used with Vader's mind. As we all saw in Episode IV: ANH, Vader cut off a Imperial officer in mid-speech when the officer was insulting and condescending to Vader's praise of the Force. "I find your lack of faith disturbing." Vader also killed Admiral Ozzel via telecommunication in Episode V: TESB when Ozzel wasn't even in the same room.
Darth Vader will choke the kid. The kid will not be able to talk, recite a spell, or raise his wand. Vader could also, just as easily, use the Force to steal Potter's wand from his hand and then snap his neck.
And for those of you saying "The almighty Potter doesn't need his wand!!!!!!11!1!" Potter can "use his mind" to inflate Vader like a balloon.
Okay, fine. But before he can do that, Vader uses his mind to kill the child. Period.
From the OP:
"They start at each end of the grave yard.
They dont know of each others powers etc...."
Force precog, wizard precog, forbidden spells, truth juice, invisible coat, cyborg, light saber........it doesn't matter. F*ck all of them. They are totally irrelevant. And shame on all of you who like to jerk off to precog skills. It doesn't matter.
Vader uses the Force choke. /thread.
After reading the posts and then finally yours...
I am switching from a Potter victory to a Vader victory.
I just don't see how a spell user can fair, at all, against even a padawan. Hell, that boy taking out all of those Clone Troopers looked to have enough battle precog and skills to take out Harry.
Originally posted by Robtardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xQQm_4FdEc
What film-feat are you thinking about? I'm lost on this one.
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Originally posted by Impediment
He's not invisible. You stated so in your OP. The thread is underway, and the settings have been cemented over the last 4 pages. It would be against rules to alter them this late in the thread.
That doesn't even matter, dude. Since when does a master of the force need to see something to react to it? Luke, without even getting any official training, was already reacting to and blocking those blaster bolts from that floating droid, in Episode IV. An invisibility cloak does shit.
Edit -
I noticed something earlier in this thread that needs to be addressed:
Battle precog, which takes in very small fractions of a second, is NOT the same thing as far-seeing. It seems those two have been confused in this thread. Battle precognition is what allowed Anakin to fly a Pod-Racer, Jedi's to react and block/bounce blaster bolts, and have saber duels that are simply not possible for anyone without the force or computer assistance (Greivous had computer assistance to keep up with the Jedi.)
Originally posted by the ninjak
Though I will always perceive Vader being no fast than Frankenstein. With a couple of crappy tricks and crappy sword skills.
Vader isn't slow in the sense of lifting a hand. Granted, his overall mobility is limited when compared to the likes of Grievous, Maul, or his younger self. But this may be irrelevant as he has shown the ability to both employ Force choke and telikinetically move large objects without moving at all. He has shown the ability to emply Force choke on someone, while possibly on another ship(surely a great distance away), and being able to carry on a conversation with someone else at the same time with his attention on that person he's talking to.
Vader has also displayed the ability to effectively block blaster bolts from Han Solo. Whether this ability was derived from the Force or simply boasts the resistance his glove provides him hasn't fully been determined yet. Either way, Vader is more powerful, physically stronger, more durable, and has more experience in combat. He is also adept in throwing his lightsaber, as already being a master swordsman, which he could telikinetically control if he so chose.
Vader's armor is condiserably resilient, having taken a full baseball swing from Luke's lightsaber in there duel on Bespin.
Originally posted by Robtard
So now that Potter somehow attacking first is dead and buried, your next angle is that Potter will just cast spells, freely, while he has a crushing force suffocating him? Really? Cos that's sad.He's a boy, not some hardened warrior, he get's choked, he's going to panic, struggle and die. No shame in that, as grown men have done the same under Vader's grasp. /the end
Sure, he'll panic. Just like he panicked against Voldemort in The sorcerors stone. What did he do? He stood his ground and won the day.
In the Chamber of secrets, he killed the giant Basilisk with a sword. Did he panic? No.
In the prisoner of Azkaban, did he panic when the Dementors chased him? Nope.
In the Goblet of fire, he pwned the Hungarian horntail, the most ferocious dragon in the world, not a moment of panic. When in the great lake for the second task, did he panic as he almost drowned? No. He used a levitating charm to reach the surface, even as the mermen surrounded him. In the third task, he never panicked, even while injured.
Then he faced Voldemort in the graveyard. Surrounded by death eaters. Was tortured and forced to duel Voldy. Panic? Nope. He stood his ground and escaped.
In the Order of the Phoenix, yeah, the battle with the Death eaters in the ministry. Yeah, what a panic fest!!!! He never panicked.
In the Half Blood Prince, when did he ever panic? Even when pulled under the water 100 feet, he was focused and fighting the whole time.
But sure, against Vader he'll panic haermm
Harry Potter does NOT panic, dude. He rises to the occasion and ALWAYS wins the day. He's undefeated through six films.
Whats vaders record? Hmm?
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Vader isn't slow in the sense of lifting a hand. Granted, his overall mobility is limited when compared to the likes of Grievous, Maul, or his younger self. But this may be irrelevant as he has shown the ability to both employ Force choke and telikinetically move large objects without moving at all. He has shown the ability to emply Force choke on someone, while possibly on another ship(surely a great distance away), and being able to carry on a conversation with someone else at the same time with his attention on that person he's talking to.Vader has also displayed the ability to effectively block blaster bolts from Han Solo. Whether this ability was derived from the Force or simply boasts the resistance his glove provides him hasn't fully been determined yet. Either way, Vader is more powerful, physically stronger, more durable, and has more experience in combat. He is also adept in throwing his lightsaber, as already being a master swordsman, which he could telikinetically control if he so chose.
Vader's armor is condiserably resilient, having taken a full baseball swing from Luke's lightsaber in there duel on Bespin.
Vader was hit on the shoulder, dude, it was heavily armored.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/technology/darthvaderssuit/index.html
See? Not all armored. Besides, an impact spell or jinx on the chest plate that contains the controls for his breathing mechanism, and Vader is done.
Originally posted by KingD19What's Vaders record against a guy who can make him swell up like a balloon and float away?
I remember that Marvel, it was a mix of Force Scream/Bellow, and his rage manifesting as energy.And RJ, what's Harry's record against a guy who can telekinetically choke him from across the battlefield as soon as the fight starts?
BTW, the death spell, which Voldemort tried on Harry, is much more powerful than force choke.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What's Vaders record against a guy who can make him swell up like a balloon and float away?BTW, the death spell, which Voldemort tried on Harry, is much more powerful than force choke.
So he can do the wand movements and say the incantation before Vader can think about choking him?
And what happened to you saying that....even Wolverine couldn't power through the Force Choke, it was too powerful, you're gonna pass out in a few seconds?
Originally posted by KingD19The Engorgio spell is a non verbal spell that requires no incantation. Harry did in in The Prisoner of Azkaban.
So he can do the wand movements and say the incantation before Vader can think about choking him?And what happened to you saying that....even Wolverine couldn't power through the Force Choke, it was too powerful, you're gonna pass out in a few seconds?
Force choke asphyxiates it's victim, dude. How long can Harry hold his breath? See for yourself:
Over a minute, easily, and that's with two people in tow AND fighting off mermen. Oh yeah, did he panic? Nope. Ascendo, he pwned and won the day.
Holding your breath, and being choked out are 2 different things. Don't try to act like their they're the same.
I still find it hilarious how you play up and down characters and abilities when you want them to win. You like Vader better than Wolverine, so Vader wins, you like Potter better than Vader, so he wins.
Whenever anybody got choked, they could barely move, and they were gasping at their throat for air. Harry won't be able to focus enough to do anything.
Originally posted by KingD19They were panicking, dude. Padme, Ozzel, Piett, all panicking, they had no way to defend themselves. What did you expect them to do, run around doing jumping jacks?
Holding your breath, and being choked out are 2 different things. Don't try to act like their they're the same.I still find it hilarious how you play up and down characters and abilities when you want them to win. You like Vader better than Wolverine, so Vader wins, you like Potter better than Vader, so he wins.
Whenever anybody got choked, they could barely move, and they were gasping at their throat for air. Harry won't be able to focus enough to do anything.
Harry Potter, as I have proven, never panics. Sure, he might be like WTF for a second or three, but he'll come to his senses and Engorgio Vader.
See, no matter what Vader throws at Harry, Harry has more than enough resolve and attacks to counter and win. He has faced Voldemort numerous times and won, and Voldemort would kick the shit outta Vader.