Harry Potter vs Darth Vader

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Aaaaahahahahaaaa Harry Potter ignorance reigns supreme!!!

It certainly does, RJ......... it certainly does.
(Not, however, in the sense that YOU mean though.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And it takes a few seconds to choke them out. During these few seconds, Harry can do any number of things. Vader spells like a balloon, floats away, easy cheesy. Non verbal jinxes and curses, just watch the duel between Harry and Malfoy in the bathroom.

Screen feat: It takes at least 10-15 seconds for Vader to force choke someone to death.

Nope ESB feats show much quicker force chokage than that.
And the opponent/victim is always incapacitated during the process anyway.

Is that gimp leather I smell...? Why yes it is.

The smell follows your posts like a personal pheromone signature.

Originally posted by KingD19
As RJ points out in threads where he wants Vader to win...Jedi Precog, Force Choke.

Not to mention Harrys complete inability to deal with a Lightsabre ripping/burning through his neck..

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
crylaugh Oh man, dude.

The precog is IMPERFECT, I have countered it MANY times.

How am I gimping Vader? quote me.

Reducto was used by Ginny Weasley in OOTP and she blew up the stone training dummy. Harry is more powerful than her, he was teaching her, therefore it's safe to say he knows he damn spell.

Is it safe under that precedent, also to say that if she mensturates, that Harry can too then..? :rolleye:

You attempted to gimp Vaders Force precog, and also implied that Vader couldnt choke Harry as it would take 10-15 secs for it have effect.

Which is some gimpation, Elizabeth.

And the quotes are there for all to see reading back through this thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Oh my sweet Jesus, just stop.

The irony that whilst debating, you side with a character who has no proveable feats of ability despite many ridiculous claims, and then cite another in frustration when faced with sense..is a rich one indeed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Vader was hit on the shoulder, dude, it was heavily armored.

See? Not all armored. Besides, an impact spell or jinx on the chest plate that contains the controls for his breathing mechanism, and Vader is done.

I'm sure in the 23 years of Vader wearing the suit no one has tried that tactic. 🙄 He can block any magic or projectiles with the lightsaber or simply block stop them with the Force.

I know, Vader force pulls Harry's wand away first. On my, what to do now? Weeeeeellllll.......Harry causes Vader to swell up and float away, just like he did in the Prisoner of Azkaban. He did this with no wand and no incantation. Vader can choke away, Harry has more than enough time to do this. BTW, force choke does NOT render one immobile, teehee.

So, what do we have here? Let's see.......Shitload of spells Harry can use on Vader to defeat him. Crucio, Impedimenta, Petrificus totalus (Yeah, Vader would be reduced to a Sith mannequin), Death spell, Engorgement charm (If Harry is being force choked, he'll use this to turn Vader into the Hindenburgh), Stupefy, Imperio, Incarcerous (tie Vader up), Sectumsempra, not to mention Occlumency, people. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Harry had no control over the Engorgio spell. He lashed out in anger. He wasn't even aware that he did anything until it happened. 😬 Wizards can do spells without a wand, but they have no control over it unless they're incredibly powerful like Voldemort or Dumbledore.

Harry won't get any of those spells off becuase either his neck will be at a 180degree angle or his arm will be pointing the other way. Vader can manipulate Potter like a ragdoll as long as he wants and Harry can't do shit. Vader doesn't even need to raise his arms do do TK, as shown by his ripping airvents etc off the walls in ESB while in a saberlock with Luke.

But lets go through your list: Crucio: Vader had his arm and legs cut off then set on fire. He took it like a champ. Harry's craptastic Crucio won't even phase him. Impediment: Vader blocks with the Force or simply dodges. Petrificus Totalus: Vader continues to crush Potter with the Force. Engorgio: Vader continues to crush Potter with the Force. Stupify: Vader blocks with the Force. Imperio: Vader survived Mustafar through will-power, the fact that he was still conscious and still trying to kill Kenobi shows he has enough will power to stop the spell. Plus Potter never performs Imperio. 😛 Incarcerous: Never actually uses it, plus Vader could brake free or just continue to Force-pwn. Sectumsempra: Won't do shit to Vaders armor. Negligable at best. Occlemency: Potter is an awful occlemens and can't use it offensively anyway.

Vader stomps.

I'm sure in the 23 years of Vader wearing the suit no one has tried that tactic. roll eyes (sarcastic) He can block any magic or projectiles with the lightsaber or simply block stop them with the Force.

Or his hand.

Btw, I agree with RJ, Harry never panics in any situation. The guys got balls of steel. Though Voldemort in the graveyard freaked him out a little.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I was speaking of the suits durability. Will ignoire that bit at the top.

I'm sure in the 23 years of Vader wearing the suit no one has tried that tactic. 🙄 He can block any magic or projectiles with the lightsaber or simply block stop them with the Force.

More importantly, how can Vader block the Engorgio spell? He'll never see it coming. It requires no wand, nor an incantation. One second he'll be fine, the next he'll be swelling up like a pregnant woman at a buffet line, floating away like a helium balloon.

See, the Vader supporters seem to think that Harry is just gonna sit there and panic, piss in his knickers as Vader attacks. Not gonna happen. Harry has shown time and time again that he does not panic, he does not freeze.

For some of Harry's accomplishments, see below:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, he'll panic. Just like he panicked against Voldemort in The sorcerors stone. What did he do? He stood his ground and won the day.

In the Chamber of secrets, he killed the giant Basilisk with a sword. Did he panic? No.

In the prisoner of Azkaban, did he panic when the Dementors chased him? Nope.

In the Goblet of fire, he pwned the Hungarian horntail, the most ferocious dragon in the world, not a moment of panic. When in the great lake for the second task, did he panic as he almost drowned? No. He used a levitating charm to reach the surface, even as the mermen surrounded him. In the third task, he never panicked, even while injured.

Then he faced Voldemort in the graveyard. Surrounded by death eaters. Was tortured and forced to duel Voldy. Panic? Nope. He stood his ground and escaped.

In the Order of the Phoenix, yeah, the battle with the Death eaters in the ministry. Yeah, what a panic fest!!!! He never panicked.

In the Half Blood Prince, when did he ever panic? Even when pulled under the water 100 feet, he was focused and fighting the whole time.

But sure, against Vader he'll panic haermm

Harry Potter does NOT panic, dude. He rises to the occasion and ALWAYS wins the day. He's undefeated through six films.

Whats vaders record? Hmm?

Let's take a look at that:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I forgot Draco. Harry is like 12 and 0. Vader? Lets see....Pwned by Kenobi. Beat Kenobi because Kenobi allowed it. Pwned Luke. Pwned by Luke. He's barely 2 and 2.

Vader against Voldemort? Dead Sith lord.

Vader against the Hungarian horntail? Please, The horntail would chew him up, shit him out, and lol for the lulz.

Vader in the ministry battle? Aaaaaahahahahahaa....The Death eaters finish the job that the lava on Mustafar failed to do.

Vader against a Dementor? Oh my....I won't even comment on that.

Vader, armed with a regular sword, against the Basilisk? Wounded? crylaugh

Yeah, look at it, learn it, live it, love it. Harry, despite his youth, has far more experience fighting one on one than Vader does. AND Harry is undefeated. Vader is shown fighting one on one four times, Harry about 12. Vader is barely 2 and 2, Harry is about 12 and 0. Add on the fact that Harry has survived Voldemort numerous times, and the fact that Voldemort would rape Vader six ways from Sunday, AND the fact that HP magic is more powerful than the force, the debate is over. Harry wins.

Breaking news!!! Big bad Sith lord in black armor loses to faggy boy "waving a stick around", more news at 10.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Harry had no control over the Engorgio spell. He lashed out in anger. He wasn't even aware that he did anything until it happened. 😬 Wizards can do spells without a wand, but they have no control over it unless they're incredibly powerful like Voldemort or Dumbledore.

Harry won't get any of those spells off becuase either his neck will be at a 180degree angle or his arm will be pointing the other way. Vader can manipulate Potter like a ragdoll as long as he wants and Harry can't do shit. Vader doesn't even need to raise his arms do do TK, as shown by his ripping airvents etc off the walls in ESB while in a saberlock with Luke.

But lets go through your list: Crucio: Vader had his arm and legs cut off then set on fire. He took it like a champ. Harry's craptastic Crucio won't even phase him. Impediment: Vader blocks with the Force or simply dodges. Petrificus Totalus: Vader continues to crush Potter with the Force. Engorgio: Vader continues to crush Potter with the Force. Stupify: Vader blocks with the Force. Imperio: Vader survived Mustafar through will-power, the fact that he was still conscious and still trying to kill Kenobi shows he has enough will power to stop the spell. Plus Potter never performs Imperio. 😛 Incarcerous: Never actually uses it, plus Vader could brake free or just continue to Force-pwn. Sectumsempra: Won't do shit to Vaders armor. Negligable at best. Occlemency: Potter is an awful occlemens and can't use it offensively anyway.

Vader stomps.

Or his hand.

Prove the rest. Prove that Vader can block the spells with the force or his lightsaber. If you are gonna use that line of argument, fine, Potter can block everything Vader throws at him with a protego shield charm.

And no, Potter is good at occlumency. He forced Voldemort, the most powerful legilimens user, out of his mind.

See how that works?

Dont even try that. Vader "lashed out in anger" when doing the force crush, dude. But people arent afraid to use that here, are that? Harry learned the Engorgio on the fly, therefore he knows how to use it when he pleases.

No he didn't. The novelisation says that just went into a hissy fit of rage and started crushing stuff. George Lucas himself agreed with that and OKed that version of events. Nothing to suggest he lost control. Harry's never performed a spell without a wand and he only did so becuase he lost control and got angry. Harry doesn't do anything to support that he had control at that point anymore than he did before he bacame aware of wizardry. In fact the minister for magic confirms later in the film that it was an accidental act of magic when he catches up with Harry. Harry can't control wandless magic and certainly can't use it whenever he wants. Vader can Force crush whenever he wants.

Prove the rest. Prove that Vader can block the spells with the force or his lightsaber. If you are gonna use that line of argument, fine, Potter can block everything Vader throws at him with a protego shield charm.

Vader blocks blaster bolts with the force in ESB. And Potter can't block the Force around his throat with a shield, get the **** outta here with that shit. 😆

And no, Potter is good at occlumency. He forced Voldemort, the most powerful legilimens user, out of his mind.

No he didn't. When?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, he'll panic. Just like he panicked against Voldemort in The sorcerors stone. What did he do? He stood his ground and won the day.

In the Chamber of secrets, he killed the giant Basilisk with a sword. Did he panic? No.

In the prisoner of Azkaban, did he panic when the Dementors chased him? Nope.

In the Goblet of fire, he pwned the Hungarian horntail, the most ferocious dragon in the world, not a moment of panic. When in the great lake for the second task, did he panic as he almost drowned? No. He used a levitating charm to reach the surface, even as the mermen surrounded him. In the third task, he never panicked, even while injured.

Then he faced Voldemort in the graveyard. Surrounded by death eaters. Was tortured and forced to duel Voldy. Panic? Nope. He stood his ground and escaped.

In the Order of the Phoenix, yeah, the battle with the Death eaters in the ministry. Yeah, what a panic fest!!!! He never panicked.

In the Half Blood Prince, when did he ever panic? Even when pulled under the water 100 feet, he was focused and fighting the whole time.

But sure, against Vader he'll panic haermm

Harry Potter does NOT panic, dude. He rises to the occasion and ALWAYS wins the day. He's undefeated through six films.

Whats vaders record? Hmm?

Not panicking when facing a scary adversary and not panicking when you're being choked to death in a matter of seconds are two different animals. /the end to that nonsense.

Force-choke. /the end

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I forgot Draco. Harry is like 12 and 0. Vader? Lets see....Pwned by Kenobi. Beat Kenobi because Kenobi allowed it. Pwned Luke. Pwned by Luke. He's barely 2 and 2.

Pretty sure he killed plenty of Jedi, when he turned to the dark-side; not just the little kids in training.

He killed the Emperor, a guy who who would wreck the shit out off all of Hogwarts.

But even if we ignore those and we can, we still have Force-choke FTW.

The thread should not have gone past this and this.

But RJ felt that there was a need for another mass-debating session over the boy wizard. But I think that debate is sewn up now.

Clear Vader victory.

its sad that it takes seven pages to cement a fact that was established 4 posts in on the first page 🙁

Yep thats some McClane like durability against truth , reason and logic.

Originally posted by Impediment
The thread should not have gone past this and this.

First page, bro. Force-choke was mentioned.

Force choke force choke force choke!!!! That's really all you guys have, man. But it really is the only attack Vader has that is feasible. Too bad Engorgio ruins it.

Picture it, Vader swells up, his armor gives....Hmm, seems HE'S the one choking now.

But I guess none of that matters, because Harry is gonna freeze like a doe in headlights, DESPITE his history of NOT freezing. Despite never freezing onscreen, Rob and Impediment seem to think he'll freeze here. Despite Harry facing much more deadly opponents on a more frequent basis, for some reason he'll punk out and freak when he can't breathe. Just like he did in the Goblet of Fire.......Wait a second, he didn't panic there either!!!!

And Rob, no, dont even try to say "Vader faced many Jedi!!!" When he was said to have "Helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi", it was likely stormtroopers/clone troopers whacking the Jedi, like in order 66. Vader was shown fighting FOUR times, and he barely went 2 and 2. Harry is undefeated in at least 12 duels/one on one/20 on 1 fights where he should have died.

I know....Force choke ZOMG FTW!!!!

Countered. Beaten into the ground. Engorgio'd.

Try again?

facepalm2 No Engorgio. In the script itself it says he was surprised by wandless magic.

Originally posted by Nephthys
facepalm2 No Engorgio. In the script itself it says he was surprised by wandless magic.

You aint taking away his spells, man.