Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, you forget that those three cats have something in common, they're all [very] powerful Force-users with precog. It's like a game of whose dick is bigger.

I have one better, 40-odd Jedi facing hundreds and hundreds of droids (and the bugs) all shooting at them and from different directions. Sure, some fell, but it was 50+ to 1 and battle-precog did well considering the odds. This breaks down to 1 on 1.

I could very well just say "Palpatine solos" and I''d have as much merit. Zero, neither are soloing 20 powerful opponents.

Tell me, what's to stop Voldy from apparating right away, then picking the Jedi off one at a time from long distance? Add on the death eaters and OOTP doing the same.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's like a game of whose dick is bigger.

I like that game. 😐

Spoiler:
I always win. 😖hifty:

News flash:

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Mandrake

The wizards conjure a shitload of mandrakes. They half apparate far above the Jedi, and, one by one, drop them amongst the Jedi.

✅

The Jedi saw it coming and avoided it, way before the Wizards were all killed and buried in the rubble.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The Jedi saw it coming and avoided it, way before the Wizards were all killed and buried in the rubble.

Add on the Basilisk, which is a big ass fire breathing Medusa. Add on that at least a couple of wizards will get an Imperio curse off, next thing you know you've got Jedi fighting Jedi.

😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Tell me, what's to stop Voldy from apparating right away, then picking the Jedi off one at a time from long distance? Add on the death eaters and OOTP doing the same.

Already told you that, many a time. Superior Jedi reaction-time. If (big if)he managed to teleport before his throat is crushed, his body is slammed and/or his wand is pulled , it'd happen right as he re-appeared due to Force-precog. Jedi/Sith would be ready for him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Already told you that, many a time. Superior Jedi reaction-time. If (big if)he managed to teleport before his throat is crushed, his body is slammed and his wand is pulled , it'd happen right as he re-appeared, due to Force-precog. Jedi/Sith would be ready for him.

Well. considering that apparition is instant, and that force attacks are not, the wizards apparate away easily enough.

Force choke doesn't "crush" windpipes, it merely pinches them shut, suffocating the victim. Even if it did crush the windpipe, the wizard will have a vial of phoenix tears. Pop it open, swallow it, instant regen.

Precog is out. The Jedi precog will be overwhelmed, as you say.

Force attacks are as instant as the user wants it to be.

Evidence: Anakin slamming things around violently with force TK at times, yet gently and slowly flaoting a slice of apple over to Padme at others.

Crushing peoples throats slowly at sometimes, yet crushing them at others to punctuate sentence completion.

Palps making a show of things with the force lightning against Mace, then BAM! Unlimited power! Say hello to that moon, Mace...

The control that Yoda had over the Senate Pods in ROTS.

You simply cant gimp force precog. So stupid even trying.
Ironically I saw that you were gonna do it before you did. 😉

You're wrong about the crush. You can hear that 1st officer in ANH esophagus starting to crack before Vader released him.
(Burtt achieved the sound with walnuts being crushed together in reality.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well. considering that apparition is instant, and that force attacks are not, the wizards apparate away easily enough.

Force choke doesn't "crush" windpipes, it merely pinches them shut, suffocating the victim. Even if it did crush the windpipe, the wizard will have a vial of phoenix tears. Pop it open, swallow it, instant regen.

Precog is out. The Jedi precog will be overwhelmed, as you say.

As I said, if the wizard manages to teleport first, fine. Jedi will be ready due to precog when they reappear.

Just a matter of applying more force to the Force. If the Force can be used to manipulate hundreds of tons, a soft throat will be that much easier to crumble.

LoL, not what I said, son. It's 20 on 20, or 1 on 1. Fiendfyre takes time to cast(as do some other spells), so that leaves a wizard vulnerable. Fiendfyre is a deathtrap for the wizards, it's also just as likely to turn on them.

Wait, why do the wizards get these "vial of tears" now? It wasn't in the OP.

Also re-read it, found it funny how you had sweeten what the wizards have, in order to give them a chance. Very telling of which side is more powerful. The side that needs extra gear or the side that is given the minimum.

Cause its taken RJ that long to fill it up with his salty best?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Force attacks are as instant as the user wants it to be.

Evidence: Anakin slamming things around violently with force TK at times, yet gently and slowly flaoting a slice of apple over to Padme at others.

Crushing peoples throats slowly at sometimes, yet crushing them at others to punctuate sentence completion.

Palps making a show of things with the force lightning against Mace, then BAM! Unlimited power! Say hello to that moon, Mace...

The control that Yoda had over the Senate Pods in ROTS.

You simply cant gimp force precog. So stupid even trying.
Ironically I saw that you were gonna do it before you did. 😉

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Bludger

The wizards employ thousands of bewitched bludgers and have them attack the Jedi all at once.

So what we now have is this: The Jedi will be dealing with fiendfyre, death spells, vanishing spells, apparating wizards, thousands of bludgers attacking them, a big ass fire breathing basilisk with a Medusa stare, not to mention Jedi fighting Jedi after they are Imperio'd. Not to mention the dozens of other spells the wizard have.

So you see, no matter how well precog is working, no matter what the Jedi foresee, they won't be able to deal with it all, much less form an offensive.

Come on, man, gimmee a challenge. You're better than this.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Cause its taken RJ that long to fill it up with his salty best?

"to hear the lamentations of the women." - Conan

It cannot be overwhelmed, else it wasn't really precog in the 1st place, by definition.

They are shown as instantaneous. Luke does it in ROTJ to Gammoreans instantly for example.

Originally posted by Robtard
"to hear the lamentations of the women." - Conan

😛

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Yes, Precog can be overwhelmed. Here's one more thing to overwhelm it:

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Bludger

The wizards employ thousands of bewitched bludgers and have them attack the Jedi all at once.

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Listen, if you're going to keep adding, tear vials, large balls and what not, it is very telling of which side is inherently more powerful.

But since we're playing the "add on after the fact to finagle a win" game now, Jedi now have blasters and 501st with war-machines, ships etc backing them up. So you take your "bludgers" and tears; I'll take attack ships and clones.

Originally posted by Robtard
As I said, if the wizard manages to teleport first, fine. Jedi will be ready due to precog when they reappear.

Just a matter of applying more force to the Force. If the Force can be used to manipulate hundreds of tons, a soft throat will be that much easier to crumble.

LoL, not what I said, son. It's 20 on 20, or 1 on 1. Fiendfyre takes time to cast(as do some other spells), so that leaves a wizard vulnerable. Fiendfyre is a deathtrap for the wizards, it's also just as likely to turn on them.

Wait, why do the wizards get these "vial of tears" now? It wasn't in the OP.

Also re-read it, found it funny how you had sweeten what the wizards have, in order to give them a chance. Very telling of which side is more powerful. The side that needs extra gear or the side that is given the minimum.

The SW could re-add a couple of big balls that caused Wizard tears to be put in vials..... One orbitted Endor, for example.

Fiendfyre gets redirected back onto the caster with ease. Thats why so many of the corpses were found so badly burned, when found when going through the rubble afterwards....

Force Attacks are faster than HP spells.

Laserbolts travel faster than fire too.

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, if you're going to keep adding, tear vials, large balls and what not, it is very telling of which side is inherently more powerful.

But since we're playing the "add on after the fact to finagle a win" game, Jedi now have blasters and 501st with war-machines, ships etc backing them up. So you take your "bludgers"; I'll take attack ships.

Can the Jedi CONJURE these items at will? Out of thin air? Nope.

It's a wizard power to use conjuring spells.

The 501st and their machines are back in SWverse. The Jedi must contact them, have them make the journey to Earth, all in 30 minutes. Not gonna happen.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then there's the matter of wizards casting spells faster than Jedi cast force attacks.

Phoenix tears ✅ Instant regen.

The wizards can cast fiendfyre from thousands of feet high, far out of reach from any and all force attacks. Bellatrix, Dumbles and Voldy showed mastery of controlling it.

Fawkes is Dumbledoes phoenix. With 30 minutes prep, he summons Fawkes and harvests tears. Why wouldn't he do this?

Ahahahahahaa nah, everything I have listed is a wizard power. The power to conjure mandrakes, the power to summon Fawkes, it's all wizard power.

And as I said, Precog for when they "poof" back.

Crushed throat = choking death, no casually grabbing a vial and downing it in the middle of a battle like it's mid-day tea, son.

So now they're "thousands of feet" high? LoL, dude. Fiendfryre has mass, it can be pushed and held. Those few that can both cast and control it, would be open to attack/death.

LoL, K. If wizards can call in minions, so can the Jedi. Obi radios and calls in the 501st. /thread.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The SW could re-add a couple of big balls that caused Wizard tears to be put in vials..... One orbitted Endor, for example.

Fiendfyre gets redirected back onto the caster with ease. Thats why so many of the corpses were found so badly burned, when found when going through the rubble afterwards....

Force Attacks are faster than HP spells.

Laserbolts travel faster than fire too.

Mhm, too bad the Jedi cannot use CONJURING spells to CONJURE these things out of thin air.

Fail.