I know what YOU'VE asked for for xmas...
I know what YOU'VE asked for for xmas...
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
*CoughDeathstardodgerCough*Yeah Bruce forms sentences, you just copy/paste them. 🙂
Ooooo time to check on them wizards....
Yup...still dead.
they have been dead for what 31 pages how.. pity that everyone else agrees the wizards are dead and burnt or dead and choked out just like all the other star wars v. harry potter threads
Wizards certainly are potentially greater than Force Users. Rogue Jedi's right in that regard: they have a far greater spectrum of powers and can operate on a scale that most Jedi and Sith can't come close to.
That said, the real reason that wizards would lose an engagement is solely the immediate advantages afforded by Force Users: greater speed and intangible attacks.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well if the jedi were to see whatever attack coming, the Jedi could preemptively counter, by doing something that pipps that attack to the post.IE The ultmate counter punch. It also gives intell advantages that would lead to better placement of troops etc, theoretically......
The problem is that Rogue Jedi makes a fair point: Jedi precognition isn't infallible. Palpatine and Yoda are established as the two most prescient Force Users in the films and both of them have been caught off guard and foiled at various points. Not to mention the whole Order 66 shebang.
Originally posted by Robtard
When does precog fail the majority of the time? When Jedi are overwhelmed or and when they're off guard(trusting the assassin).Neither of these scenarios are applicable here. It's 20 on 20 and all are out for blood.
Not to mention when Palpatine is using the dark side to cloud their access to the Force.
That said, again, precognition and foresight afforded by the Force is never infallible. The Emperor was the undisputed master of the talent in the films and his schemes suffer setbacks all throughout the PT and even in ROTJ. He failed to foresee Padme's decision to return to Naboo, he failed to foresee Maul's death, he failed to defeat Mace, he failed to sense Yoda's presence in the Rotunda, he failed to foresee Anakin's defeat on Mustafar, he failed to foresee the destruction of the first Death Star, he failed to sense Luke's presence at Endor, he failed to foresee Luke's defiance, and he failed to foresee Vader's betrayal.
Now, if you want, you can probably use wiggle room and attempt to make a decision between battle precognition and farsight, but the point remains the same: even the most powerful Force User is perfectly fallible.
That doesn't mean it will fail them here, of course.
Originally posted by Robtard
Farsight and Precog are different.
In some aspects, yes, but both are concerned with seeing and predicting the future.
Robtard
Comes down to who's faster, middle-aged Englishmen (and women), or Force-users with Force-amped reflexes, reaction-time and battle-precog.
Oh, I'm with you wholeheartedly that Force Users are the faster draws.
Originally posted by RobtardOh yeah? LOL at that. Vader's precog failed when he had his attention on Luke. Failed Palpy when he had his attention on Luke. That was just one thing. "Overwhelmed" indeed haermm
When does precog fail the majority of the time? When Jedi are overwhelmed or when they're off guard(trusting the assassin).Neither of these scenarios are applicable here. It's 20 on 20 and all are out for blood.
Try a wall of fiendfyre, spells flying everywhere, shit vanishing around them, buildings exploding.......Yeah, Precog is gonna be stretched thin here.
Moot point. Voldemort solos here.
No? Prove me wrong. Lemmee guess....."Already did!!!"
Nope. Afraid not. Apparate, Confundus, Immobulus, Avada Kedavra.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, I give as I get.It's not really "attitude", sadako and I have been going back and forth here for ages. It's all in good natured fun. If we crossed paths, hell, I'd buy him a beer.
And what if he didn't want a beer and instead asked for water? Or tea? Or Mountain Dew? Would you feel so benevolent then?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Oh yeah? LOL at that. Vader's precog failed when he had his attention on Luke. Failed Palpy when he had his attention on Luke. That was just one thing. "Overwhelmed" indeed haermmTry a wall of fiendfyre, spells flying everywhere, shit vanishing around them, buildings exploding.......Yeah, Precog is gonna be stretched thin here.
Moot point. Voldemort solos here.
No? Prove me wrong. Lemmee guess....."Already did!!!"
Nope. Afraid not. Apparate, Confundus, Immobulus, Avada Kedavra.
Again, you forget that those three cats have something in common, they're all [very] powerful Force-users with precog. It's like a game of whose dick is bigger.
I have one better, 40-odd Jedi facing hundreds and hundreds of droids (and the bugs) all shooting at them and from different directions. Sure, some fell, but it was 50+ to 1 and battle-precog did well considering the odds. This breaks down to 1 on 1.
I could very well just say "Palpatine solos" and I''d have as much merit. Zero, neither are soloing 20 powerful opponents.