Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Started by Sadako of Girth73 pages

Noope. They are localised to earth only.

The force is the entire universe.

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaah Gutted, you are. 🙂

How did this manage to stretch for 42 pages?

Ah, so you went there. K. The Force is limited to the SW galaxy only. Same shit as you just said.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
How did this manage to stretch for 42 pages?

Crack.

And Advil.

Sooooooo.........Do the Wizards beat the Jedi?

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Only if all the wizards instantly know to aparate. If they don't know to do that, then they all get squished under a Force Crush.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Only if all the wizards instantly know to aparate. If they don't know to do that, then they all get squished under a Force Crush.
Most of the wizards know how to apparate. The ones that do not, well, with 30 minutes prep, they'll likely not be on the front lines. Then there's always side along.

But really, what defense is there for this: Battle starts. Hermione, thousands of feet away, utters "confundus." The Jedi forget who they are and what they are doing. "Immobulus" is cast on them, freezing them where they stand. Fiendfyre does the rest.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Most of the wizards know how to apparate. The ones that do not, well, with 30 minutes prep, they'll likely not be on the front lines. Then there's always side along.
No, if they know to apparate. I doubt very much that at the beginning of every duel a wizard's been in, they decide to apparate out of harm's way just to be sure. If they don't do that here, they'll be dead before they can raise their wands.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But really, what defense is there for this: Battle starts. Hermione, thousands of feet away, utters "confundus." The Jedi forget who they are and what they are doing. "Immobulus" is cast on them, freezing them where they stand. Fiendfyre does the rest.
Again, above. Combined telekinetic Force push from the Jedi--bam! All the wizards are dead.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ah, so you went there. K. The Force is limited to the SW galaxy only. Same shit as you just said.

And that universe is still the same universe.

And if they are fighting each other they are in the same universe... 🙂

The force being limited to that galaxy only is heavy, heavy speculation on your part.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Only if all the wizards instantly know to aparate. If they don't know to do that, then they all get squished under a Force Crush.

And even then, their apparation will be forseen and pipped to the post by a slightly earlier force crush.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, if they know to apparate. I doubt very much that at the beginning of every duel a wizard's been in, they decide to apparate out of harm's way just to be sure. If they don't do that here, they'll be dead before they can raise their wands.
The Jedi do not have a one hit instant killing attack. Also, wands are not required for apparition.

Apparition is instant, no force attack is instant.

This isn't about what a wizard WOULD do, it's about what they CAN do. I tried "what a Jedi WOULD do" early on, no one went with it.

Again, above. Combined telekinetic Force push from the Jedi--bam! All the wizards are dead.
Half hours prep, dude. Snape, Dumbles, Voldy or whoever will whisper "confundus" from thousands of feet away. Fight over.

And force push does NOT kill haermm

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And that universe is still the same universe.

And if they are fighting each other they are in the same universe... 🙂

The force being limited to that galaxy only is heavy, heavy speculation on your part.

No, your saying that the Force negates Magic is speculation.

Coruscant. Jedi against Wizard. Wizard hits Jedi with Avada Kedavra. What happens?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, if they know to apparate. I doubt very much that at the beginning of every duel a wizard's been in, they decide to apparate out of harm's way just to be sure. If they don't do that here, they'll be dead before they can raise their wands.

Again, above. Combined telekinetic Force push from the Jedi--bam! All the wizards are dead.

the wiazrds were dead a long time ago

O.K, like I said in the other thread, just my opinion, but I see it like this. If you were to put Yoda and Dumbledore in a steel cage and ask them to kill each other (using only their Magic/Force-based powers/ no lightsaber duel), Dumbledore would use his fire spell to char grill Yoda. Yoda has no defense whatsoever to counter this attack. Nothing he has done in any of the 6 Star Wars films says he can defend himself from this. Hell, Dumbledore could light the ring on fire and then appartate away, since Wizards have shown the ability to do this at will

Like I said in the other thread, the Force probably is the stronger power source, but as the old saying goes, "a tool is only as strong as the man who wields it". If just comparing the power levels of the sum total of the energy sources, the Force would come out stronger, but, as far as I've seen in the 6 Star Wars films, they can not utilize this massive power to the level they need to replicate the feats the Wizards have produced in their respective films. Yes, Yoda can use telekinesis, and sense events not in his immediate presence, but how can that compare to a wizard who can conjure matter out of thin air and also transmute it, and teleport at will, both of which without much effort.

In potential, yes the Force could be better, but as for who would win between Jedi/Sith and HP wizards, based on feats, I don't see Jedi/Sith taking this

Once again, just stating my opinion based on my subjective analysis. Not trying to insult anyone, nor am I looking for a fight

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the wiazrds were dead a long time ago

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Originally posted by Lestov16
O.K, like I said in the other thread, just my opinion, but I see it like this. If you were to put Yoda and Dumbledore in a steel cage and ask them to kill each other (using only their Magic/Force-based powers/ no lightsaber duel), Dumbledore would use his fire spell to char grill Yoda. Yoda has no defense whatsoever to counter this attack. Nothing he has done in any of the 6 Star Wars films says he can defend himself from this. Hell, Dumbledore could light the ring on fire and then appartate away, since Wizards have shown the ability to do this at will

Like I said in the other thread, the Force probably is the stronger power source, but as the old saying goes, "a tool is only as strong as the man who wields it". If just comparing the power levels of the sum total of the energy sources, the Force would come out stronger, but, as far as I've seen in the 6 Star Wars films, they can not utilize this massive power to the level they need to replicate the feats the Wizards have produced in their respective films. Yes, Yoda can use telekinesis, and sense events not in his immediate presence, but how can that compare to a wizard who can conjure matter out of thin air and also transmute it, and teleport at will, both of which without much effort.

In potential, yes the Force could be better, but as for who would win between Jedi/Sith and HP wizards, based on feats, I don't see Jedi/Sith taking this

Once again, just stating my opinion based on my subjective analysis. Not trying to insult anyone, nor am I looking for a fight

Mhm. Why are you apologizing? It's your opinion, and a damn good one.

I'm not gonna read through 800+ posts... why can't the HP team just spam Avada Kedavra?

They can.

See, this matchup is like pitting two kickass gunfighters together, gunman one armed with a 9mm pistol, gunman two armed with a .50 caliber sniper rifle. Place them 1000 yards apart, who wins?

Sniper, the one with attacks that have longer range and are more powerful.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm. Why are you apologizing? It's your opinion, and a damn good one.

Thank you 🙂