Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Originally posted by Lestov16
If you were to put Yoda and Dumbledore in a steel cage and ask them to kill each other (using only their Magic/Force-based powers/ no lightsaber duel), Dumbledore would use his fire spell to char grill Yoda. Yoda has no defense whatsoever to counter this attack. Nothing he has done in any of the 6 Star Wars films says he can defend himself from this. Hell, Dumbledore could light the ring on fire and then appartate away, since Wizards have shown the ability to do this at will

Mhm, Wizards win steel cage battles versus Jedi every time.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
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Nah, I can handle the truth just fine. I've been preaching it the whole time.

So, as I said earlier, do the Wizards beat the Jedi?

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And HP magic has vastly superior screen feats.

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You see, I've backed up everything I have claimed with video evidence.

Lestov summed it up quite nicely:

the Force probably is the stronger power source, but as the old saying goes, "a tool is only as strong as the man who wields it". If just comparing the power levels of the sum total of the energy sources, the Force would come out stronger, but, as far as I've seen in the 6 Star Wars films, they can not utilize this massive power to the level they need to replicate the feats the Wizards have produced in their respective films. Yes, Yoda can use telekinesis, and sense events not in his immediate presence, but how can that compare to a wizard who can conjure matter out of thin air and also transmute it, and teleport at will, both of which without much effort.

If all you got is "the wizards were dead on page one", don't waste my time. You're outgunned and outclassed. Just like the Jedi are.

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I'm your 8 ball ✅

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Jedi do not have a one hit instant killing attack. Also, wands are not required for apparition.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And force push does NOT kill haermm

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No, but they're required for spells.

No, not in the movies. Movie Jedi are incredibly handicapped against... anyone, really. EU Jedi would f*ck the wizards up.

There are plenty of non wand spells.

Depends on the wizard/Jedi. Movie Jedi are what counts most, they are the vision of George Lucas. EU? It's ****ing ridiculous what they can do. And even then, the wizards have apparition and avada kedavra.

I've been reading, and (once again, just stating my opinion), and I've been finding some troubling issues, mainly the usage of the death Star. Was the Death Star utilizing some kind of Force energy? IIRC it wasn't. Thus I don't think such a weapon should have any place in whatsoever in this fight

It doesn't. It's technology, not the Force. Plus it's not in the OP.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There are plenty of non wand spells.

Depends on the wizard/Jedi. Movie Jedi are what counts most, they are the vision of George Lucas. EU? It's ****ing ridiculous what they can do. And even then, the wizards have apparition and avada kedavra.

Don't forget killing planets and moving black holes...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Instakill/Electric Judgement.

Originally posted by ares834
Don't forget killing planets and moving black holes...

Mhm, I was like "Man, come ON."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Countered by apparition.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Stymied by precognition.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Stymied by precognition.

Was there any instance of this "I can see anything I want to from the future" precog used in the 6 films? And if they did have such precise precog, why did the Jedi/Sith go through such hardships instead of being able to evade them?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You mean the flimsy, unreliable precog? Nah. Nothing in SWverse, movies or EU included, will keep a wizard from apparating.

Wizard disapparates and as soon as they reappear, their windpipe's crushed.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Nope. But they will foresee what the wizard is about to do and where they will go. They'll "see things before they happen. That's why (they) appear to have such quick reflexes. It's a Jedi trait."

Wizard disapparates and as soon as they reappear, their windpipe's crushed.

http://starwars-exodus.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Precognition

Bingo.

Yeah but they also have 30 mins prep time...

In which full precog gets used also. 🙂

Ahhhhhhhhhh goes back to correctness and cornflakes. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, your saying that the Force negates Magic is speculation.

Coruscant. Jedi against Wizard. Wizard hits Jedi with Avada Kedavra. What happens?

Actually its based on science theory and onscreen feats/definitions. 🙂

Well in an ungimped situation, the Jedi kicks his ass before the spell is finished.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yeah but they also have 30 mins prep time...

In which full precog gets used also. 🙂

Ahhhhhhhhhh goes back to correctness and cornflakes. 🙂