Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, RJ, I'll answer that.

Every time someone was hit with force lightning, they were either A. Standing still just waiting to be hit, or B. Running at the person who was casting force lightning.

Dooku versus Anakin: Anakin ran right at him.

Dooku versus Obi Wan: Obi Wan was just standing there, caught it on his saber.

Sidious versus Yoda: Yoda was just standing there like a n00b.

Palpatine versus Luke: Luke was just standing there like a n00b.

The idea that a force user can track apparating wizards and force lightning them is ludicrous. Never, not once, was force lightning shown tracking a fast moving/instant moving target.

So.....Force lightning, out. Same with force crush. Force push and pull, as well as force hold are countered with apparition. Jedi mind trick aint working on a wizard. Precog gets overwhelmed, easily. Saber attack? Lulz, man, the wizard apparates away or vanishes the Jedi. Force speed? Immobulus.

Pretty sure that covers it all.

The idea that a Force user can't foresee the attacks of a regular human who needs to point his blaster wand and fire a fast moving laser spell is ridiculous. Not only have Padawans shown the ability to foresee and track incoming rapid fire, but they've also shown proficiency in moving faster than a computer-brain (NOTE: non-human automaton) can track.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Wow, that's clever. In the movies, no one ever ran from Force Lightning, so ergo, anyone who runs from it can't be hit by it! Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Let's see....n00bs standing there waiting to be hit.......teleporting wizards.........Yeah, they're the same haermm

The idea that a Force user can't foresee the attacks of a regular human who needs to point his blaster wand and fire a fast moving laser spell is ridiculous. Not only have Padawans shown the ability to foresee and track incoming rapid fire, but they've also shown proficiency in moving faster than a computer-brain (NOTE: non-human automaton) can track.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then WTF are we talking about?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Point? It's a spell she knows and can use at will. The fact that it was only used twice means nothing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Apparition>>>>>>>>>>Force speed. Immobulus>>>>>>>>>>force speed. Arresto momentum>>>>>>>>>>>force speed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Let's see....n00bs standing there waiting to be hit.......teleporting wizards.........Yeah, they're the same haermm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Precog is overwhelmed by the sheer number of attacks happening all at once. Jedi can only defend so much.

They won't be deflecting anything here, but then again, they're hardly surrounded. They're also hell bent on killing this time. They also consist of much more powerful member than on Geonosis. The Wizards can teleport all they want, but they need to reappear. And when they do, they'll be killed.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Something fictional, apparently.

Perhaps my Harry Potter movie knowledge is rusty, but I recall her aiming her wand at Cormac McLaggen from, hundreds... thousands? of feet away. Cormac who was just sitting there on his broom, not moving at super fast speeds.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Confundus_Charm

The Confundus Charm is a jinx that causes a person or animated object to become highly confused. There appear to be varying degrees of inflicted confusion, ranging from tricking a person about a specific issue to making them lose all semblance of common sense, even to the point of endangering themselves.[1] The incantation is "Confundo."

Precognition>>>>Apparition.
Force Speed>>>Immobulus
Force Speed>>>Arresto Momento

No, no and HELL no.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Teleporting wizards have to reappear to do anything. When they do, and when they take the precious seconds to cast a spell--Lightning, Force Push, Crush, Grip.

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FF to :44. Harry casts sectumsempra. Snape turns, blocks it, returns it with a spell of his own, and the spell hits Harry. All in under one second.

Literally thousands of battle droids encircling a couple dozen Jedi (some Padawans) firing thousands of bolts, and the Jedi still had the precognitive abilities to foresee and deflect the great majority that came their way.

They won't be deflecting anything here, but then again, they're hardly surrounded. They're also hell bent on killing this time. They also consist of much more powerful member than on Geonosis. The Wizards can teleport all they want, but they need to reappear. And when they do, they'll be killed.

Wizard can spell whilst half apparating.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. She was wandless, just sitting in the stands. She broke line of sight, looked down, and whispered confundus.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, no and HELL no.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Good for Hermione. I know the Jedi will stand still and give her chance to use it. Not.

Yes, yes and HELL yes.

Force speed vs apparition: OK so Anakin and Bellatrix are standing in the end zone of a football field. They have a race to see who reaches the opposite end zone, Anakin using force speed, Bella using apparition. Who reaches the other end zone first?

Force speed vs Immobulus: Immobulus freezes fools in their tracks. Can't force speed if you're frozen.

Force speed vs Arresto Momentum: Arresto Momentum slowed a free falling Harry to a virtual standstill. Yeah, force speed is nuked by this spell.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Good for Hermione. I know the Jedi will stand still and give her chance to use it. Not.

Yes, yes and HELL yes.

Dude, the person Hermione cast it on was moving about in quidditch, if I remember it properly.

Does you opinion change now that you know it works on those that are moving about?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Dude, the person Hermione cast it on was moving about in quidditch, if I remember it properly.

Does you opinion change now that you know it works on those that are moving about?

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Cormac was playing keeper. What matters here is that she was thousands of feet away, wasn't even looking at him, and whispered it into her hand.

That, and Barty Crouch Jr. hoodwinked with it in the GOF, which is one of the most powerful magical objects in HPverse.

Harry Potter movie spells, and this is only from movies 1 to 5:

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If Vader goes into Force crush (I am assuming the NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO feat, then he's ****ed. Fiendfyre will get him or he will be death spelled.

Besides, Vader was incredibly distraught when he did that over Padme's "death." He isn't that way here.

Vader is in a fireproof sealed laser proof atmospheres suit.

Give it your best shot.

And Harry and his mates'll all would still be killed sooner as he lacks that suit + having just been crushed to death..
The other force user's take care of the stranglers, supply force holds, pushes, pulls etc

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Vader is in a fireproof sealed laser proof atmospheres suit.

Give it your best shot.

And Harry and his mates'll all would still be killed sooner as he lacks that suit + having just been crushed to death..
The other force user's take care of the stranglers, supply force holds, pushes, pulls etc

And you have no idea how it works, so technically, neither do you.

But a couple of things for sure.

If force pull or push is used to push the air
out of the area around the Fiend Fyre, the vaccuum would extinguish it.

Also Fiendfyre is too hard to the wizard to control.

A force user would EASILY be able to take control over via the force.

So that wizard's gonna have ta change his name to "Bernie" 😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And you have no idea how it works, so technically, neither do you.

But a couple of things for sure.

If force pull or push is used to push the air
out of the area around the Fiend Fyre, the vaccuum would extinguish it.

Also Fiendfyre is too hard to the wizard to control.

A force user would EASILY be able to take control over via the force.

So that wizard's gonna have ta change his name to "Bernie" 😛

You know shit about HP, why are you debating in a HP thread?

Explain then.
And whilst youre at it, explain how it overrides the all dominating, all powerful and all things in the universe making force.

Yes you ARE clueless, as usual. 🙂
You clearly could benefit from a visit to Big Vinnie Clue's emporium of clues, down on clue boulevard, Cluestown, Clue county.
(If you ever override your clueslessness enough to find the place, that is, of course.) 🙂

LOL And whilst Bernie is carving that stone up, his head's continued positioning on his shoulders is rudely interrupted by Yoda's sabre. 🙂

Its not a HP thread.... Its a SW thread with lots of dead wizards in it.

Anyways you know absolutely f**k all about SW, the way that basic physics or even LOGIC work, but YOU still "Debate" here. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Explain then.
And whilst youre at it, explain how it overrides the all dominating, all powerful and all things in the universe making force.

Anyways you know absolutely f**k all about SW or even LOGIC. 🙂

Force controlled subatomic particles, dude.
Force controlled subatomic particles

Its not. HP is nowhere near as powerful as the force (which makes up everything in the universe. All those supernovas, black holes, billions or billions and billions of galaxies, all the space between them etc )

And a wand is as powerful as that by on screen feats, right? LOLZ RJ LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ 😂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Force controlled subatomic particles, dude.
Force controlled subatomic particles

Its not. HP is nowhere near as powerful as the force (which makes up everything in the universe. All those supernovas, black holes, billions or billions and billions of galaxies, all the space between them etc )

And a wand is as powerful as that by on screen feats, right? LOLZ RJ LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ 😂

Ignorance again, I guess.

Let's try again: Jedi and Sith, while in battle, name their more impressive screen feats. Force push, pull, choke, lightning, grip, etc.

Yes it was a little. But theres really no need to apologise though, RJ...
You were just debating from the only position you could. 🙂

It doesn't matter whats more impressive: Its whats more effective that counts... HP magic might be more visually flarey, but this wasn't a oil painting competition.