Originally posted by quanchi112
Wasn't it 4 consecutive hammer shots to the head you are comparing these attacks too? Yeah, not comparable and you're a Surfer fan who is protesting this despite there being no proof he was amped until he acquired the power gem.
And no im not protesting... lols
Originally posted by quanchi112
Bill was wrong and was just speaking about what he saw.There was no amp from the insanity just the power gem.
Originally posted by AmbientHe meant figuratively drawing strength from it he didn't act like he was actualy literally drawing energy.
you know both Odin and Bill can sense energy source right? Be it cosmic or magic.. If they said drawing strength that means thor was somehow amping to get stronger and Bill was seing this..
Originally posted by kgkgthey are close but Thor is notch above BRB as we all know and not too mention BRB and SS were dead even until SS used his baord to gain the upper hand a moved that failed against Thor but anyone Thor and SS are both close were either could gain solid victories in a KMC however thier powersets are very different thus one could have a bigger advantage over a certain enemy that the other doesn't have.
It doesn't mean that but that's pretty much the best indication you can have.Since they are pretty much identical in abilities and power.
Originally posted by Ambient
OneDumbGo posted the scan and it was even..One puny single blast from Surfer equal bloodlust?? Again we have not seen Surfer crosses the line..
Weak hardly, this are two powerful cosmic beings whose brute strength or projectile been measured/stated to toppled planets yet they're combined attack had but little effect (probably just tickled him). Then we've got PG Drax/Maxam brutal sneak attack in the back of the head with no effect and proceeded to mauled the Watch. A similar attack from the duo minus the pg from Drax and that brought down Bill whose supposedly equal or a little less than Thor.. See where im getting at.. That is a wide margin of > durability of Thor from the start of BT crossover..
Maybe he was putting all of his energy into those attacks? Just because he isn't pulling out black holes doesn't necessarily mean he isn't using all of his raw Power Cosmic.
Again with the increase in durability argument. Thor's durability did no increase.
It's no surprise. Thor's tanked far worse than the Silver Surfer's blasts. Far worse. Warlock's Gem blasts were useless against Thor due to his fortified immortal soul.
The sneak attack Drax pulled?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/InfinityWatchvsThor1fight1.jpg
Bill did something incredibly similar.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer2fight7.jpg
I don't see any rise in durability. Hell, the Bill scene is even more impressive.
Bill was suffering from extreme injuries dealt to him by Thor. He was far from %100. And Bill isn't not Thor's equal in durability. That much has become obvious. He was still conscious by the way.
Once again, there was no rise in durability. I don't know where your getting this from.
Originally posted by Ambient
The fight with the inf. watch i think is far more impressive the the Crusade crossover scan showed, not only he was tanking this two but the whole watch attacks..Its just that in this arc he was supposedly going full throttle at start unlike say his other showings where he gradually > in strength due to him holding down.. he should have showed consistency in his feat in this arc as oppose to the latter..
Very little was explain about this madness other than its similarities to True WM, maybe it was tapping to same forces as True WM..
Not really.. 🙄
He tanked simultaneous blows from Drax and Maxam unharmed. I just posted a scan of him doing something exactly similar, but instead of it being Maxam, it's the superior Hulk.
Thor tanking 4 consecutive shots to the head from Beta Ray Bill and only being downed moments after tanking a running swing from Beta Ray Bill to the back of the neck is a fair bit more impressive than anything he did in his first fight with the Infinity Watch in terms of durability. The only thing even worth noting for someone of Thor's level as impressive is him shrugging off a blow from Maxam and Drax, which is apparently nothing new if you saw the scans I posted.
Again, everything was consistent for the most part. Nothing is ever going to be exactly consistent however. Especially an arc crossing over 4 different titles. Look at Siege. We have the exact same seen shown in completely different ways at times.
On top of everything, Blood and Thunder is hardly the best Thor has done in terms of feats.
The Warrior Madness is when a god becomes filled with blood lust. Extreme emotion can force someone into it or one can enter it by clearing the mind and becoming a berserker. What Thor was suffering from was a result of the multiple incarnations created which damaged his mind, and caused him to grow more suspicious, until he created an imaginary person that was the madness inside of him personified.
The only thing similar between the two is that Thor runs around spinning his hammer like a maniac. In the true Warrior Madness, he however is still aware of his goals. In Blood and Thunder he was suspicious of everyone.
Originally posted by quanchi112Lack of Appearances. It's not like Thor has used those often as well how many times did Thor use those abilities it twice/three times?
When has BrB used the godblast or the life essence drain?
considering Thor has 10 times more showings that BRB it's only natural that Thor will show case more abilities.
Also those tactics is something Thor will not use in your typical vs fight anyway.
Originally posted by kgkg
Lack of Appearances. It's not like Thor has used those often as well how many times did Thor use those abilities it twice/three times?considering Thor has 10 times more showings that BRB it's only natural that Thor will show case more abilities.
Also those tactics is something Thor will not use in your typical vs fight anyway.
His used the God Blast 6 times and manipulated souls twice.
Originally posted by DarkOdinSufer told BRB that he cannot match him. Also surfer was holding back severely. It's not really a cheap shot , they were engage in battle BRB knows surfers abilities and that Norin can control the board also he can replicated again BRB was already busy block Norins attack leaving his back defenseless. Anyway I don't want to turn this into a Surfer vs Bill thread.
they are close but Thor is notch above BRB as we all know and not too mention BRB and SS were dead even until SS used his baord to gain the upper hand a moved that failed against Thor but anyone Thor and SS are both close were either could gain solid victories in a KMC however thier powersets are very different thus one could have a bigger advantage over a certain enemy that the other doesn't have.
I don't think Surfer will own Thor just that he will beat him.
I have addressed the Thor > BRB before on average they are the same.
Thor has a lot more higher end feats and a lots of low end feats. Bill feats all mid level. If you want to ignore these low end THor feat that sure Thor would look better.
Originally posted by kgkgIf he hasn't used it we can't act like it's an ability for Bill.
Lack of Appearances. It's not like Thor has used those often as well how many times did Thor use those abilities it twice/three times?considering Thor has 10 times more showings that BRB it's only natural that Thor will show case more abilities.
Also those tactics is something Thor will not use in your typical vs fight anyway.
The obvious thing here is a tactic that worked on Bill won't necessarily work on Thor.
Originally posted by AmbientSurfer was KTFO.
OneDumbGo posted the scan and it was even..One puny single blast from Surfer equal bloodlust?? Again we have not seen Surfer crosses the line..
He was not holding back. Neither was Thor. Surfer literally states that.
Originally posted by AmbientSeriously... this isn't meant to be hard for the reader to figure out:
Very little was explain about this madness other than its similarities to True WM, maybe it was tapping to same forces as True WM..
Originally posted by kgkgAll of Thor's other incarnations such at Red norvel BRB and Thunder strike are lacking certain thing that make Thor more powerful. 1000' s of year of expereince from how to fight, skills weilding mjolnir, spells . And the biggest thing that sets Thor over the others is he will to fight and push himself to beyond his limits much how Superman always seems to come on top of beings that are his peers.
Lack of Appearances. It's not like Thor has used those often as well how many times did Thor use those abilities it twice/three times?considering Thor has 10 times more showings that BRB it's only natural that Thor will show case more abilities.
Also those tactics is something Thor will not use in your typical vs fight anyway.
Originally posted by kgkg
And the times he is not.
You mean in all those captions that you like to post?
The closest Bill has come to looking as Thor's equal was under Walter. Even in the second fight where Bill is revived first, it's heavily implied that Odin choose that location purposely to teach Thor humility as he would have beaten Bill elsewhere.
The gap has simply gotten wider and wider since then.
Originally posted by quanchi112I never said Bill can do everything Thor can do. I give you a reason why Bill hasn't show those feats lack of appearances.
If he hasn't used it we can't act like it's an ability for Bill.The obvious thing here is a tactic that worked on Bill won't necessarily work on Thor.
Tactic that worked on Bill will work on Thor as well. God Blast and Soul Suck is something Thor hardily uses.
The point was that Bill and Thor fighting abilities and power are more identical that any other characters. So yes beating Bill has merits when debating Thor vs Surfer.
Originally posted by kgkgWhy will it work on Thor since he has a lot more experuience and is a different character than Bill?
I never said Bill can do everything Thor can do. I give you a reason why Bill hasn't show those feats lack of appearances.Tactic that worked on Bill will work on Thor as well. God Blast and Soul Suck is something Thor hardily uses.
The point was that Bill and Thor fighting abilities and power are more identical that any other characters. So yes beating Bill has merits when debating Thor vs Surfer.
So you admit Thor has more options since he's the real deal.
No, just as beating a knian doesn't mean you automatically beat Superman.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI'm not even talking about that.
You mean in all those captions that you like to post?The closest Bill has come to looking as Thor's equal was under Walter. Even in the second fight where Bill is revived first, it's heavily implied that Odin choose that location purposely to teach Thor humility as he would have beaten Bill elsewhere.
The gap has simply gotten wider and wider since then.
Thor has a lot of low end feat that doesn't apply to Bill.
