Silver Surfer vs Sentry WITH Void.

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus17 pages

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor while only having a fraction showed to be far more durable then his classic levels.

PLus he went into the Odinsleep to revived what Odinpower he had.

He did some very crazy feats during his short run with a samll part of the Odinpower.

He was at this point Thor was a leap over his former self.

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I'm too lazy to argue this so I'll keep it simple. I never argued that Thor wasn't superior with the portion of the Odin Force to his regular.

According to Fraction the Thor he was writing was basically drained of whatever small portion of the Odin Force he had, I'm pretty sure. He said that he drained it reviving the Asgardians and was pretty weakened. So this mini probably happened right after Thor collapsed from reviving the sleeping Asgardians.

Originally posted by kgkg
So Rage.Of.Olympus your going to post higher end feats like I predicted to show Thor is > Bill 😂

Hey I might as well put those U-Foes and Wolverine and Hulk scans? huh BRB > Thor yay.

anyway the caption was written by the witter and it's not just the caption it been hinted countless time that BRB = Thor. 🙂

and lol at using Odin Force Thor to show Thor > BRB

Thor has always been above BRB. Bill was grant to be Thor equal physically by the hammer However BRB lacks in other ways. Thor huge experence and skills. We have See other with Thor power fail were Thor has.
A prime example is red norvel who once again Thor's equal physically who couldn't hurt the midguard Seph. b/c he lack the skill to weild mjolnir as we seen in the comic Also Thor will power that allows his to push on when he body wants to give out. And Thor on life force or god hood in which he taps into he mystic powers more then BRB ever has.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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I'm too lazy to argue this so I'll keep it simple. I never argued that Thor wasn't superior with the portion of the Odin Force to his regular.

According to Fraction the Thor he was writing was basically drained of whatever small portion of the Odin Force he had, I'm pretty sure. He said that he drained it reviving the Asgardians and was pretty weakened. So this mini probably happened right after Thor collapsed from reviving the sleeping Asgardians.

the skrull battle happen after the asgardians was revived in which in the same comic Thor had to enter the Odinsleep to revive his powers So he was at no point in his comic series were Teh BRB skrull beating took place depower or odinforce less

Originally posted by kgkg
So Rage.Of.Olympus your going to post higher end feats like I predicted to show Thor is > Bill 😂

Hey I might as well put those U-Foes and Wolverine and Hulk scans? huh BRB > Thor yay.

anyway the caption was written by the witter and it's not just the caption it been hinted countless time that BRB = Thor. 🙂

and lol at using Odin Force Thor to show Thor > BRB

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You are the one who challenged me to post showings of Thor operating above normal levels when enraged etc. and I did exactly that.

Haha go ahead. When Thor steps up his game, his been shown to be superior to Bill for a while now. The same goes for other peers such as Hercules. The fact that your butt hurt about it doesn't change anything.

Yes it has been hinted, except when Thor shows that his superior. Actual showings > Claims and words of mouth.

Honestly, it's clear that these incarnations of Thor are inferior to the real deal. There was a reason why Loki was mocking them when while owning the shit out of them (The Thor Corps.).

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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You are the one who challenged me to post showings of Thor operating above normal levels when enraged etc. and I did exactly that.

Haha go ahead. When Thor steps up his game, his been shown to be superior to Bill for a while now. The same goes for other peers such as Hercules. The fact that your butt hurt about it doesn't change anything.

Yes it has been hinted, except when Thor shows that his superior. Actual showings > Claims and words of mouth.

Honestly, it's clear that these incarnations of Thor are inferior to the real deal. There was a reason why Loki was mocking them when while owning the shit out of them (The Thor Corps.).

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keep dreaming 🙄 I'm butt hurt? 😂

Originally posted by DarkOdin
the skrull battle happen after the asgardians was revived in which in the same comic Thor had to enter the Odinsleep to revive his powers So he was at no point in his comic series were Teh BRB skrull beating took place depower or odinforce less

*Sight*

One more time. Iit doesn't make any sense continuity wise but that was what Fraction said. Thor was weakened by reviving the Asgardians hence why it was a perfect time for the Skrulls to attack. He even said that Thor is at a real disadvantage.

He intended for Thor to be Thor without any amps and just came out and gave a somewhat logical reason as to why.

Originally posted by kgkg
keep dreaming 🙄 I'm butt hurt? 😂

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Concession accepted.
Good job.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
While we can debate these scans all day, it's preposterous to base a entire thread with two +40 year-old characters on one storyline that occurred more than 15 years ago.
So we ignore two lopsided fights between these two characters? Why?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
*Sight*

One more time. Iit doesn't make any sense continuity wise but that was what Fraction said. Thor was weakened by reviving the Asgardians hence why it was a perfect time for the Skrulls to attack. He even said that Thor is at a real disadvantage.

He intended for Thor to be Thor without any amps and just came out and gave a somewhat logical reason as to why.

Well he failed bad.

For Thor to take an amped hammer blow to the just and come out with and damage other then his cloths means either he was amped "which was hinted at as he said before the blow landed Odin give me strength' And also do to the fact that Thor at the end even used the Odin power to drop asgard on the skrull So either Thor was ampped the whole fight or the whole 3 book mini was nothing but PIS

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor has always been above BRB. Bill was grant to be Thor equal physically by the hammer However BRB lacks in other ways. Thor huge experence and skills. We have See other with Thor power fail were Thor has.
A prime example is red norvel who once again Thor's equal physically who couldn't hurt the midguard Seph. b/c he lack the skill to weild mjolnir as we seen in the comic Also Thor will power that allows his to push on when he body wants to give out. And Thor on life force or god hood in which he taps into he mystic powers more then BRB ever has.
Thor has never been above BRB. The only thing Thor has over BRB is higher end feats which is a given when the characters has 10 times more appearances that BRB.

Every character who had there own series have these high end feats.

but you have to remember Thor also has embarrassing feats and lots of lots low end durability feat like getting K.O left and right and having many characters give him trouble.

BRB on the average has better feats and is consistently written as a top Tier.

Even if Thor is better it's by the smallest of margin when they have been portrayed to be equal using Thor's higher end feat doesn't have him better because by the same token BRB doesn't have all of Thor low showings.

Lol. Are you still going on about this? I'm not even going to bother however.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Well he failed bad.

For Thor to take an amped hammer blow to the just and come out with and damage other then his cloths means either he was amped "which was hinted at as he said before the blow landed Odin give me strength' And also do to the fact that Thor at the end even used the Odin power to drop asgard on the skrull So either Thor was ampped the whole fight or the whole 3 book mini was nothing but PIS

He did just fine. You seem determined for him to have had the full measure of his Odin Force portion to be present for some damn reason.

You mean when she tosses her hammer? Why the hell would Thor have to be amped to take that unharmed? His taken worse, and has come out fine.

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I don't think I can do this anymore. At least herochat I wouldn't get banned for what I'd like to say to you.

Are you actually trying to argue that Thor stating "Odin grant me strength." is prove that he was tapping into Odin Force? Do I really have to explain to you how...how silly that is? I've read Thor praying to Odin on multiple occasions. It was just a figure of speech. When Thor yelled, about Void feeling the power of his father and his father's father wasn't him reaching King Thor levels.

Nowhere was it ever mentioned that Thor needed the Odin Force to make Asgard rise and fall.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So we ignore two lopsided fights between these two characters? Why?

Did I say that? Because if you look at my post again, I didn't.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Did I say that? Because if you look at my post again, I didn't.
Then these two fights definitely change the dynamic between the two of these characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then these two fights definitely change the dynamic between the two of these characters.

What does that mean? Are they not longer friends or something? Are we going to ignore all of Silver's feats post-Annihilation and pre-Annihilation in favor of dubious ABC logic?

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
What does that mean? Are they not longer friends or something? Are we going to ignore all of Silver's feats post-Annihilation and pre-Annihilation in favor of dubious ABC logic?
His feats and showings are impressive but until you beat the man (Thor in this case) you can't act as if Surfer trumps him), brudda.

But beating BRB means you can beat Thor. Or so I have heard. 🙄

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
But beating BRB means you can beat Thor. Or so I have heard. 🙄
I guess if you beat any old kryptonian that also means you can beat Superman by this morbid logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His feats and showings are impressive but until you beat the man (Thor in this case) you can't act as if Surfer trumps him), brudda.

Nothing stops a blood-lusted Surfer from opening a singularity in Sentry's head. Or murdering him on the astral plane. Or turning him into a puddle of quarks. He was never blood-lusted when fighting Thor, and never used any powers that would have flat-out killed him.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Nothing stops a blood-lusted Surfer from opening a singularity in Sentry's head. Or murdering him on the astral plane. Or turning him into a puddle of quarks. He was never blood-lusted when fighting Thor, and never used any powers that would have flat-out killed him.
He rearranges his molecules. He can do whateber he wants to the sentry's head as he has complete form over his molecules and can reform at will.

You need to prove the Sentry can be defeated via the astral plane and can't Dr. Strange use this tactic and he was in awe of the Void?