I read the comic, I know what the Void said. Like I said before, that was in my opinion whatever of Reynolds left acting out. I just find it odd the Void would suddenly want to die when everything has been shown to it wanting the opposite.
Bob didn't turn into the Void on purpose. The Void regained control.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusit's called shitty writing
I read the comic, I know what the Void said. Like I said before, that was in my opinion whatever of Reynolds left acting out. I just find it odd the Void would suddenly want to die when everything has been shown to it wanting the opposite.Bob didn't turn into the Void on purpose. The Void regained control.
I think if anything, Siege 4 shows how much Thor holds back. I mean he could have ended it at any time apparently. The panels show Thor killing void. The dialogue in Fallen Sun states that Void was "fully unleashed", "Void seized control again" and "Thor finally ended the troubled life of Bob Reynolds". It seems to me that it was a mercy killing akin to a family pet being put down. In this case, Thor is Travis and Sentry/Void is Old Yeller.
^Undeniable truth.
Thor just held back a little less.
Notice how when Sentry first attacked him Thor was enraged and proceeded to smack him away as a pest. In their next encounter they were simply going toe to toe and Thor seemed to be in a "Whatever man." attitude as if he was half assing it.
Then the poor bastard had to go and get Thor mad again. He killed Loki and from that moment on it was downhill for him.
"It had to be done."
Originally posted by Slaanesh
if Void regain control..he wouldn't scream kill me..that's just not right..
But he did regain control and I agree it's not in character for the Void to want to die at all. He seems to want the exact opposite. Even a temporary death is something he'd beg Sentry not to impose on him. This the reason why I'm claiming it was whatever part of Reynold that still existed which begged for death but that's all he could do.
Apparently even Jenkins thinks the Void regained control so my interpretation doesn't seem to be unique to me alone.
Originally posted by shokosugiYes, an dthe Void still stated kill me.
here i'll post this again for you..."[b]And when the Void seized control again
, Thor finally ended the troubled life of Bob Reynolds."[/B]
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI don't care because we saw the Void actually state kill me on panel so who cares if it happened prior to we saw it happen.
The Void has never wanted to die. It's always been the opposite as far as I can tell so I'm assuming it's the Reynolds aspect begging to die and not the Void aspect.If he actively wanted Thor to kill him, then why did he transform and attack them? Let me tell you why. The Void regained control as Shoku's scan proves in the previous post.
Loki has only lived this long through Thor's good graces. Beating Loki isn't something beyond Thor at all. Need to do better.
Molecule Man? Pfff. Thor one shotted him in his human form. He made him run away and cry.
Poor, poor Sentry. He'll never live up to the glory that is Thor.
What? All they did was down him. He wasn't even out much less nearly dead.
The Sentry had his ass beat by the original Human Torch in moments. That same Human Torch was one shotted by Thor.
Hence Thor > Sentry.
Honestly, I feel sorry for the Sentry. He gets his ass kicked, killed and gets tossed into the Sun by Thor.
On top of it all, it seems that Thor's going to bang Sentry's mom in Fallen Sun. Poor, poor Reynolds.
"It had to be done."
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Yes, he regained control, lashed out, but still wanted death which backs up his statement to kill me as the Void.
He easily killed Loki with norn stones after taking on the avengers. Beating Mm is leaps and bounds better than anything Thor could resist or pull off so what's your point?
Yeah, in his human form which is a big difference. Thor also needed to be saved by a woman in a jeep from the ufoes and Osborn so don't act like Thor is without his embarrassing showings in this very arc.
Sentry>>Thor. His power level and the fact he took Thor on along with Loki an entire team and in the end only went down when he wanted to. It's not even close power level wise between the two and he forced Thor into killing him which he didn't want to do.
Human Torch got into his head one time, this isn't happening again, and for the record the Void has also stomped Thor along with Strange and marvel earth once already so I fail to see your point. Void>>>>Thor.
Void will be back and at the end of the day he only lost because he wanted to. Thor can't even enjoy a true victory he only prevailed because the Void wanted death. That's actually laughable.
Originally posted by SlaaneshExactly. In any event even when he was the Void he still wanted to die due to the immense guilt and only went down because he wanted to. He can reform from everything thrown his way and the only thing different was the Void's mentality not Thor's power or his attack.
if Void regain control..he wouldn't scream kill me..that's just not right..
it was clearly shown that Void easily tank a full power blast from a power up Thor..yet a normal Thor can kill Void with a single blast..there's only two explanation from that..Bob wanted to die so much that it actually affect Void and allow Thor to kill him..the other one is that the writer is an idiot..
Originally posted by Slaanesh
it was clearly shown that Void easily tank a full power blast from a power up Thor..yet a normal Thor can kill Void with a single blast..there's only two explanation from that..Bob wanted to die so much that it actually affect Void and allow Thor to kill him..the other one is that the writer is an idiot..
How about you show me where the Void easily tanked a full power blast from a powered up Thor first, and we'll continue from there.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI can see the Void doing so in those same circumstances due to his insane power level whereas Thor would simply die against MM. When writers have handled Thor's power levels and the Void/Sentry's it's no comparison at all.
Null bomb, Celestials, resisting disintegration/matter manipulation, creating impenetrable force fields, etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAre you saying this is the most powerful attack the Void has ever had to deal with? Do you think Thor could beat him all day with this blast? I can't wait to hear your answer.
How about you show me where the Void easily tanked a full power blast from a powered up Thor first, and we'll continue from there.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I can see the Void doing so in those same circumstances due to his insane power level whereas Thor would simply die against MM. When writers have handled Thor's power levels and the Void/Sentry's it's no comparison at all.
Except when there is. 😬
You can't take Void's absolute best feats and use that as the norm without doing the same for Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. In any event even when he was the Void he still wanted to die due to the immense guilt and only went down because he wanted to. He can reform from everything thrown his way and the only thing different was the Void's mentality not Thor's power or his attack.
The Void's....guilt? eer
Have you never read a comic with the Void in it? His a mass murdering psychopath. His killed millions and even wanted to kill Lindy, the person Bob wanted love the most and his never shown a hint of remorse.
It's a hell of a lot more likely that a piece of Reynolds was able to regain a bit of control than the Void showing.....guilt.....
Honestly Quannybun....
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI do take Thor's best but they don't compare especially when seeing how they match up on panel. Sentry took on Thor and an entire team and was outclassing them all. The tide only turned when Bob resurfaced and only then did he himself want to go down so he was taken down by a reluctant Thor.
Except when there is. 😬You can't take Void's absolute best feats and use that as the norm without doing the same for Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's the same character who has it all wrapped up inside of him. If the Void was completely in control like you say and without remorse why would he say kill me then? It makes no sense, ragey pooh.
The Void's....guilt? eerHave you never read a comic with the Void in it? His a mass murdering psychopath. His killed millions and even wanted to kill Lindy, the person Bob wanted love the most and his never shown a hint of remorse.
It's a hell of a lot more likely that a piece of Reynolds was able to regain a bit of control than the Void showing.....guilt.....
Honestly Quannybun....
Void>>>Thor. If Thor fights Superman and at the end says Superman kill me and lets him does that mean Superman can kill him when Thor doesn't want to die?
This is some of the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard in my life on here. The guy actually wanted to die and said it as the Void yet you are acting like that line didn't happen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I do take Thor's best but they don't compare especially when seeing how they match up on panel. Sentry took on Thor and an entire team and was outclassing them all. The tide only turned when Bob resurfaced and only then did he himself want to go down so he was taken down by a reluctant Thor.
The tide turned when the Norn Stones revived/restored the heroes to full health and gave them a boost in attack power. The tide remained turned when Thor started dropping lightning bolts on Void.