Classic Mangog vs. Tyrant (depowered)

Started by zopzop27 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Poor deflection. I'm quite shocked that you still can't get over the fact that DP Tyrant was the one who wanted to retreat and leave without being attacked and Galactus agreed to let him leave.

And what happened next after that little exchange? Galactus says he doesn't care what "DP" Tyrant does, he just wants his herald back. This is a major plot point and the whole reason Galactus ran into "DP" Tyrant in the first place. I so kindly provided the scans from the previous issue that made this clear as day.

Galactus traded away Morg for Silver Surfer, Terrax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Ganymede and Jack of Hearts. Neither of em wanted to fight each other at that moment. DP Tyrant least of all since he was the one to treaty for the cease fire. He bluffed Galactus out of spite. That was obvious considering Galactus labeled him as "petty." Galactus made the wiser choice.

You want to cherry-pick Galactus' cautious statements to elevate DP Tyrant to Galactus' level. That's self-serving drivel. Do you know how many of DP Tyrant's statements I can cherry-pick to prove how cautious and fearful he was of him? Which should be obvious considering he lost outright the first time around, he took eons to prep against Galactus, and he conspired to draw Galactus out to ambush him when his guard was down, among other obvious facts. \

You STILL don't get it do you? Galactus stated CLEAR AS DAY, I don't care what you do with these others, I want my herald back lest there be war between us. And then what happened? Oh that's right, "DP" Tyrant defied Galactus and Galactus backed down and this was witnessed by the Silver Surfer who called him out on it. It's hilarious that people downplay this and say "DP" Tyrant wasn't Galactus level since if he wasn't in Galactus' league, Galactus would have swatted "petty" Tyrant out the way and reclaimed his herald but he didn't.

And here we finally come to it. You can't even admit by [b]by your own standards that Adam Warlock punked Galactus far worse than did DP Tyrant. The reason why is obvious: you don't want to discuss how punking is a relatively worthless feat when considering power hierarchies. [/B]

More proof that you don't even read my posts, or if you do you don't understand what I'm getting at.

I even provided you the definiton of "punked" so you saw where I was coming from. Just in case you missed it, here it is again :
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked

6. punked
(Verb)To incite or challenge another through verbal or physical behavior in order to humiliate or intimidate.

That's what "DP" Tyrant did to Galactus.

What Warlock did to Galactus during the IG saga doesn't fall into that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He posted every page in sequence. He wants you to focus on the statements he thinks you're overlooking or deflecting from.

Your backhanded ridicule is an ironic reflection of your own behavior. Let us know when you're ready to provide feats proving DP Tyrant was a peer to Galactus rather than isolated character statements, off-panel speculation and non-feats of "punking." Because those cherry-picked character statements, off-panel speculation and non-feats are substantially diminished by the full gambit of character statements, the highly superior on-panel feats of Galactus, and the irrelevance of "punking" when it comes to relative independent power.

Context is important. And it's obvious who cares more about context. It's really obvious.

👆 He did a good job honestly to say he was "twisting" anything is bs

^ 👆 👆

Originally posted by zopzop
And what happened next after that little exchange? Galactus says he doesn't care what "DP" Tyrant does, he just wants his herald back. This is a major plot point and the whole reason Galactus ran into "DP" Tyrant in the first place. I so kindly provided the scans from the previous issue that made this clear as day.
You can't even admit what happened before that exchange. That DP Tyrant was the one to admit that he should retreat and requested that he leave unharmed. Now why would you expect me to entertain your deflection about what happened after?
Originally posted by zopzop
You STILL don't get it do you? Galactus stated CLEAR AS DAY, I don't care what you do with these others, I want my herald back lest there be war between us. And then what happened? Oh that's right, "DP" Tyrant defied Galactus and Galactus backed down and this was witnessed by the Silver Surfer who called him out on it. It's hilarious that people downplay this and say "DP" Tyrant wasn't Galactus level since if he wasn't in Galactus' league, Galactus would have swatted "petty" Tyrant out the way and reclaimed his herald but he didn't.
You want me to inundate this thread with scans highlighting just how much trouble DP Tyrant went through prepping himself, carried himself through his campaign with extreme wariness (some might say even fear?), and resorted to rather cowardly tactics when he finally got enough gumption to confront Galactus? No, you don't.

Galactus trading Morg for Silver Surfer + Terrax + Beta Ray Bill + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts was a wise choice. Spite for Morg, notch in DP Tyrant's belt, yes. Proof that DP Tyrant was on Galactus' level? Phuck no. Don't make me laugh. Morg escaped and destroyed DP Tyrant (who was begging for his life) in the end.

Originally posted by zopzop
More proof that you don't even read my posts, or if you do you don't understand what I'm getting at.

I even provided you the definiton of "punked" so you saw where I was coming from. Just in case you missed it, here it is again :
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked

That's what "DP" Tyrant did to Galactus.

What Warlock did to Galactus during the IG saga doesn't fall into that.

I appreciate your understanding of the term, "punked." Which is why I highlight your pathetic hypocrisy over not being able to admit that Adam Warlock punked Galactus worse than DP Tyrant did. Galactus was far more humiliated by Warlock. Galactus went so far as to attack Warlock over who should lead the assault against IG Thanos. And Galactus got clowned. Completely... in front of his peer Abstracts... and not for any wise long-term trade-off.

But you've illustrated just what you've been doing this entire time. You're invoking some meaningless non-feat to counter-balance the shocking lack of independent feats by DP Tyrant that would actually legitimately raise him to Galactus' level. Why? Because he has no independent feats raising him to that level! Your unwillingness to accept this is perfectly punctuated by your refusal to recognize that Warlock punked Galactus even worse (and that, of course, it means nothing). Nevertheless, I'm concerned only with pointing out your faulty reasoning. If I wanted to prove that Galactus was beyond DP Tyrant, I'd mention that DP Tyrant didn't one-shot Thanos and Galactus did, didn't one-shot Surfer and Galactus did, never one-shotted a galaxy and Galactus did, never no-sold Negabombs and Galactus did--

-- oops. My bads. Sorry, I didn't mean to close this case utterly. Ignore all the feats I just mentioned. DP Tyrant isn't on Galactus' level. Any assertion to the contrary is completely baseless. I won't set out to disprove it. That's because it's painfully obvious. I'm only concerned with the flimsy notion that bluffing Galactus and pissing him off somehow makes up for all the superior independent feats that Galactus possesses over DP Tyrant.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 👆 👆 You can't even admit what happened before that exchange. That DP Tyrant was the one to admit that he should retreat and requested that he leave unharmed. Now why would you expect me to entertain your deflection about what happened after? You want me to inundate this thread with scans highlighting just how much trouble DP Tyrant went through prepping himself, carried himself through his campaign with extreme wariness (some might say even fear?), and resorted to rather cowardly tactics when he finally got enough gumption to confront Galactus? No, you don't.

Go ahead and I already posted one scan that shows how much Galactus feared "DP" Tyrant. He ordered his herald to go find a suitable planet because he needed "all his strength for such a foe".

Galactus trading Morg for Silver Surfer + Terrax + Beta Ray Bill + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts was a wise choice. Spite for Morg, notch in DP Tyrant's belt, yes. Proof that DP Tyrant was on Galactus' level? Phuck no. Don't make me laugh. Morg escaped and destroyed DP Tyrant (who was begging for his life) in the end. I appreciate your understanding of the term, "punked." Which is why I highlight your pathetic hypocrisy over not being able to admit that Adam Warlock punked Galactus worse than DP Tyrant did. Galactus was far more humiliated by Warlock. Galactus went so far as to attack Warlock over who should lead the assault against IG Thanos. And Galactus got clowned. Completely... in front of his peer Abstracts... and not for any wise long-term trade-off.

Galactus lost in that exchange. How hard is that to understand? He went searching for his herald in a rage. He found his herald, he demanded him back, Tyrant said no. Galactus did NOTHING about it. If they weren't peers, Galactus would have wtfstomped "DP" Tyrant and reclaimed his herald but he didnt' did he?

But you've illustrated just what you've been doing this entire time. You're invoking some meaningless non-feat to counter-balance the shocking lack of independent feats by DP Tyrant that would actually legitimately raise him to Galactus' level. Why? Because he has no independent feats raising him to that level! Your unwillingness to accept this is perfectly punctuated by your refusal to recognize that Warlock punked Galactus even worse (and that, of course, it means nothing). Nevertheless, I'm concerned only with pointing out your faulty reasoning. If I wanted to prove that Galactus was beyond DP Tyrant, I'd mention that DP Tyrant didn't one-shot Thanos and Galactus did, didn't one-shot Surfer and Galactus did, never one-shotted a galaxy and Galactus did, never no-sold Negabombs and Galactus did--

So you still ignoring the definition I provided? When did Warlock intimidate Galactus? The only reason Galactus relented in Warlock's case was because the other Cosmics cast lots with Warlock. If it wasn't for them WTF would Warlock do to Galactus? In "DP" Tyrant's case, NOTHING was stopping Galactus from carrying through his threat to start a fight but "DP" Tyrant punked him. He 'one shotted' all those people yet left with his tale between his legs and without his herald when he faced Tyrant.

-- oops. My bads. Sorry, I didn't mean to close this case utterly. Ignore all the feats I just mentioned. DP Tyrant isn't on Galactus' level. Any assertion to the contrary is completely baseless. I won't set out to disprove it. That's because it's painfully obvious. I'm only concerned with the flimsy notion that bluffing Galactus and pissing him off somehow makes up for all the superior independent feats that Galactus possesses over DP Tyrant.

He went looking for his herald, found him, demanded him back lest he start a fight, and left empty handed. That says it all right there.

Originally posted by zopzop
Go ahead and I already posted one scan that shows how much Galactus feared "DP" Tyrant. He ordered his herald to go find a suitable planet because he needed "all his strength for such a foe".
YOu're a fool to challenge me on this. Bring it. Here's the first thing to chew on: DP Tyrant conspiring through coward bush-league tactics under pretense of treatying:

Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus lost in that exchange. How hard is that to understand? He went searching for his herald in a rage. He found his herald, he demanded him back, Tyrant said no. Galactus did NOTHING about it. If they weren't peers, Galactus would have wtfstomped "DP" Tyrant and reclaimed his herald but he didnt' did he?
Your straw-manning is obvious. He traded Morg for Surfer + Terrax + Beta Ray Bill + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts. Galactus chose not to press the issue. What don't you get? DP Tyrant was the one who agreed to retreat and asked to be left alone. Galactus sparing him a fight worked out to both of their advantages, more to DP Tyrant's. Galactus letting DP Tyrant retreat is meaningless considering Galactus didn't back down from IG Thanos, THOTU Thanos, Chaos King, etc. What? You're going to suggest that Galactus was superior to them because he wouldn't back down from them? Don't be obtuse.
Originally posted by zopzop
So you still ignoring the definition I provided? When did Warlock intimidate Galactus? The only reason Galactus relented in Warlock's case was because the other Cosmics cast lots with Warlock. If it wasn't for them WTF would Warlock do to Galactus? In "DP" Tyrant's case, NOTHING was stopping Galactus from carrying through his threat to start a fight but "DP" Tyrant punked him. He 'one shotted' all those people yet left with his tale between his legs and without his herald when he faced Tyrant.
No, you're ignoring your own definition. Galactus got clowned and humiliated utterly by Adam Warlock. Look at your own definition links if you're not being a complete troll. Galactus could have killed Warlock had he really wanted to. He tried, he didn't, Warlock had their favor, Galactus conceded. Warlock won the issue, after challenging Galactus, after labeling him a "fool." And that superior feat of punking is, once again, irrelevant to placing Warlock higher on the cosmic hierarchy.

Furthermore, DP Tyrant didn't one-shot anybody but a weakened Jack of Hearts and Ganymede, you clown. It took him two shots to put down BRB, an eyebeam clash and several shots to put down Gladiator, and three shots to take down Surfer. Impressive feats (even if DP Tyrant was siphoning their energies just prior). Nothing compared to one-shotting Thanos and Surfer, like Galactus has done (and DP Tyrant failed to do). And certainly not one-shots like your lying a$$ is trying to peddle. You're obsessed with Tyrant and obviouslyhave his comics. You, more than anyone, should know better than to misrepresent his feats. Especially to me. Don't do it again.

Originally posted by zopzop
He went looking for his herald, found him, demanded him back lest he start a fight, and left empty handed. That says it all right there.
Deal with it, DP Tyrant agreed to retreat. This says more than you'll ever admit:

I think those scans are pretty damning.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
YOu're a fool to challenge me on this. Bring it. Here's the first thing to chew on: DP Tyrant conspiring through coward bush-league tactics under pretense of treatying:

OMG NO! I never seen that scan! 🙄
Too bad the FOLLOWING issues had this in them :

Toady : Tyrant is coming to your ship to settle old scores.
Galactus : Ever have I known this day would come. Go tell your Master I will meet him. Morg a sorry day awaits us. Go find me a world, I will need all my strength vs such a foe.

Next issue :

Galactus : This world has replenished what I had lost and then some. I haven't felt this powerful in ages.
Galacuts : If I'm to take my paternal role it must be in my domicile not his.

Your straw-manning is obvious. He traded Morg for Surfer + Terrax + Beta Ray Bill + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts. Galactus chose not to press the issue. What don't you get? DP Tyrant was the one who agreed to retreat and asked to be left alone. Galactus sparing him a fight worked out to both of their advantages, more to DP Tyrant's. Galactus letting DP Tyrant retreat is meaningless considering Galactus didn't back down from IG Thanos, THOTU Thanos, Chaos King, etc. What? You're going to suggest that Galactus was superior to them because he wouldn't back down from them? Don't be obtuse. No, you're ignoring your own definition. Galactus got clowned and humiliated utterly by Adam Warlock. Look at your own definition links if you're not being a complete troll. Galactus could have killed Warlock had he really wanted to. He tried, he didn't, Warlock had their favor, Galactus conceded. Warlock won the issue, after challenging Galactus, after labeling him a "fool." And that superior feat of punking is, once again, irrelevant to placing Warlock higher on the cosmic hierarchy.

He himself said, I DO NOT CARE FOR THE OTHERS I WANT MY HERALD RETURNED TO ME. And guess what, he wasn't returned and Galactus TOOK NO ACTION. Doesn't matter how many times you dance around this, it's right there for all to see.

What would have Warlock done if the Cosmics didn't agree to side with him? NOTHING. Their little altercation was cut short when the cosmics stepped in.

DP Tyrant punked Galactus all by himself. No help needed.

Furthermore, DP Tyrant didn't one-shot anybody but a weakened Jack of Hearts and Ganymede, you clown. It took him two shots to put down BRB, an eyebeam clash and several shots to put down Gladiator, and three shots to take down Surfer. Impressive feats (even if DP Tyrant was siphoning their energies just prior). Nothing compared to one-shotting Thanos and Surfer, like Galactus has done (and DP Tyrant failed to do). And certainly not one-shots like your lying a$$ is trying to peddle. You're obsessed with Tyrant and obviouslyhave his comics. You, more than anyone, should know better than to misrepresent his feats. Especially to me. Don't do it again. Deal with it, DP Tyrant agreed to retreat.

Ok genius. Why didn't Galactus wtfpwn "petty" "DP" Tyrant and claim his herald? The very herald he was all in a rage to reclaim? I mean Galactus one shotted Thanos right?


This says more than you'll ever admit:


And how did that encounter end? This is hilarious.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think those scans are pretty damning.

How are they damning? They weren't the last word in their encounters.

Originally posted by zopzop
OMG NO! I never seen that scan! 🙄
Too bad the FOLLOWING issues had this in them :

Toady : Tyrant is coming to your ship to settle old scores.
Galactus : Ever have I known this day would come. Go tell your Master I will meet him. Morg a sorry day awaits us. Go find me a world, I will need all my strength vs such a foe.

Next issue :

Galactus : This world has replenished what I had lost and then some. I haven't felt this powerful in ages.
Galacuts : If I'm to take my paternal role it must be in my domicile not his.

Your facetiousness only underscores your apprehension. Good job focusing on how Galactus prepped himself since the time he confronted DP Tyrant. He ate at least one planet on-panel. What did DP Tyrant do? He prepped for eons accumulating power stores:

Of course, even that wasn't enough. He had to absorb Galactus' own energy in order to finally bring Galactus down. A feat that's been replicated by Doom... twice... and he didn't need eons to do it.

Originally posted by zopzop
He himself said, I DO NOT CARE FOR THE OTHERS I WANT MY HERALD RETURNED TO ME. And guess what, he wasn't returned and Galactus TOOK NO ACTION. Doesn't matter how many times you dance around this, it's right there for all to see.

What would have Warlock done if the Cosmics didn't agree to side with him? NOTHING. Their little altercation was cut short when the cosmics stepped in.

DP Tyrant punked Galactus all by himself. No help needed.

What's right here to see is DP TYRANT AGREED HE WANTED TO RETREAT AND ASKED NOT TO BE ATTACKED. Doesn't matter how many times you dance around this, it's right there for all to see.

Give me a break. You can't even agree that Warlock punked Galactus. Your hypocrisy is painful to watch. Easy to deconstruct.

Originally posted by zopzop
Ok genius. Why didn't Galactus wtfpwn "petty" "DP" Tyrant and claim his herald? The very herald he was all in a rage to reclaim? I mean Galactus one shotted Thanos right?

And how did that encounter end? This is hilarious.

Ok genius, why did DP Tyrant admit that he wanted to retreat and run away and give up Surfer + Terrax + BRB + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts? He captured them, after all. He wanted to drain them. Why did he give up 6 Herald-level beings for just 1 Herald-level being when Galactus came stomping in? He can't do simple math?

And how did DP Tyrant's campaign against Galactus end? This is hilarious. Mewling and begging for mercy at the hands of the very Herald he "won" from Galactus during his "punking":

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Your facetiousness only underscores your apprehension. Good job focusing on how Galactus prepped himself since the time he confronted DP Tyrant. He ate at least one planet on-panel. What did DP Tyrant do? He prepped for eons accumulating power stores:

Of course, even that wasn't enough. He had to absorb Galactus' own energy in order to finally bring Galactus down. A feat that's been replicated by Doom... twice... and he didn't need eons to do it. What's right here to see is DP TYRANT AGREED HE WANTED TO RETREAT AND ASKED NOT TO BE ATTACKED. Doesn't matter how many times you dance around this, it's right there for all to see.

Uhm that proves nothing. "FP" Tyrant lost to Galactus under unknown circumstances. Galactus "depowered" him and it took him eons to get back to where he was before he was depowered. He even says this to Galactus' face. It's not some damn secret.

Galactus had to feast on world that made him feel more powerful than he had in ages AND chose to confront "DP" Tyrant on his (Galactus'😉 home turf.

Give me a break. You can't even agree that Warlock punked Galactus. Your hypocrisy is painful to watch. Easy to deconstruct. Ok genius, why did DP Tyrant admit that he wanted to retreat and run away and give up Surfer + Terrax + BRB + Gladiator + Ganymede + Jack of Hearts? He captured them, after all. He wanted to drain them. Why did he give up 6 Herald-level beings for just one Herald-level being when Galactus came stomping in?

Galactus relented because the OTHER COSMICS stepped in and chose to side with Warlock. NO ONE stepped in and was preventing Galactus from going to "war" with "DP" Tyrant. Yet Galactus relented and left without his herald. The same herald he set out to find and demanded back lest there be "war" between him and "DP" Tyrant.

And how did DP Tyrant's campaign against Galactus end? This [b]is hilarious. Mewling and begging for mercy at the hands of the very Herald he "won" from Galactus:

[/B]

Wow, being beaten by the UN. What a low showing. 🙄

Why don't you post something relevant. Like Galactus on the floor and bleeding with Tyrant about to end him before Morg with UN stepped in.

Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm that proves nothing. "FP" Tyrant lost to Galactus under unknown circumstances. Galactus "depowered" him and it took him eons to get back to where he was before he was depowered. He even says this to Galactus' face. It's not some damn secret.

Galactus had to feast on world that made him feel more powerful than he had in ages AND chose to confront "DP" Tyrant on his (Galactus'😉 home turf.

Uhm... that proves DP Tyrant had to prep for eons. He had to steal and store power from others for eons. Galactus prepped for... a week or two? Ate one planet on-panel? Have you remembered at all how DP Tyrant conspired to bushwhack Galactus under the pretense of treatying yet? Oh... I'm sorry... I forgot you were just deflecting from that by trying to focus on how Galactus prepped. Which is exceedingly ironic considering DP Tyrant prepped for eons.
Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus relented because the OTHER COSMICS stepped in and chose to side with Warlock. NO ONE stepped in and was preventing Galactus from going to "war" with "DP" Tyrant. Yet Galactus relented and left without his herald. The same herald he set out to find and demanded back lest there be "war" between him and "DP" Tyrant.
Galactus relented because it was the wise choice. And he got completely humiliated in the process having his attack no-sold and being called a "fool" to his face in front of his peer Abstracts. You can't even admit that this is a feat of "punking" that exceeds DP Tyrant bluffing 1 Herald being for 6 Herald beings after already admitting he wanted to run away. That you can't even admit this with all your yammering and stammering about "how awesome DP Tyrant's punking was" is really quite pathetic. Oh yea... why was it that DP Tyrant gave up 6 Herald-level beings for just 1 Herald-level being when Galactus came stomping in? He can't do simple math? Is that the answer we settled on?
Originally posted by zopzop
Wow, being beaten by the UN. What a low showing. 🙄

Why don't you post something relevant. Like Galactus on the floor and bleeding with Tyrant about to end him before Morg with UN stepped in.

You're the one who wants people to ignore DP Tyrant's outright surrender and request to run away by focusing on the endgame. Sorry you can't accept the big picture for what it is: it was ironically stupid for DP Tyrant to demand Morg, when Morg was the one who ended up killing him and making him beg for mercy in the end.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Uhm... that proves DP Tyrant had to prep for eons. He had to steal and store power from others for eons. Galactus prepped for... a week or two? Ate one planet on-panel? Have you remembered at all how DP Tyrant conspired to bushwhack Galactus under the pretense of treatying yet? Oh... I'm sorry... I forgot you were just deflecting from that by trying to focus on how Galactus prepped. Which is exceedingly ironic considering DP Tyrant prepped for eons.

Yes, prepped for eons to get back the power he lost. Then when confronted by Galactus he caused Galactus to back down and "maintained the balance of power between them".

Galactus relented because it was the wise choice. And he got completely humiliated in the process having his attack no-sold and being called a "fool" to his face in front of his peer Abstracts. That you can't even admit that this is a feat of "punking" that exceeds DP Tyrant bluffing 1 Herald being for 6 others after already admitting he wanted to run away is pathetic. Oh yea... why was it that DP Tyrant gave up 6 Herald-level beings for just 1 Herald-level being when Galactus came stomping in? He can't do simple math? Is that the answer we settled on?

Why was it a "wise choice" ODG? If Tyrant wasn't his peer power wise, why not swat the feeb and reclaim his herald? What was stopping Galactus from getting what he wanted? Galactus himself said he "cares not what he does with the others" he made that clear and stated he wanted his herald back lest he start a war. How did that end?

Unlike Warlock's 'punking', there was NO ONE to step in and save Tyrant from Galactus' wrath.

You're the one who wants people to ignore DP Tyrant's outright surrender and request to run away by focusing on the endgame. Sorry you can't accept the big picture for what it is: it was ironically stupid for DP Tyrant to demand Morg, when Morg was the one who ended up killing him and making him beg for mercy in the end.

He did not outright surrender. You still don't get it? It would have been a surrender if Galactus got what he came for and "DP" Tyrant left without being attacked. But that's not what happened did it? Not only was Galactus DENIED what he came for, Tyrant all but dared him to attack and reclaim his herald, in the end it was Galactus who backed down and the Surfer called him out on his "appeasement".

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, prepped for eons to get back the power he lost. Then when confronted by Galactus he caused Galactus to back down and "maintained the balance of power between them".
And here you still can't get over DP Tyrant outright agreeing to run away and asking not be attacked once Galactus showed up. DP Tyrant even gave up 6 Herald-level beings that he spent two entire issues collecting and beating down.
Originally posted by zopzop
Why was it a "wise choice" ODG? If Tyrant wasn't his peer power wise, why not swat the feeb and reclaim his herald? What was stopping Galactus from getting what he wanted? Galactus himself said he "cares not what he does with the others" he made that clear and stated he wanted his herald back lest he start a war. How did that end?
I'm not here to make your arguments for you. What made DP Tyrant wait for a "more opportune moment" to confront Galactus? What stopped DP Tyrant from keeping all 7 Herald-level beings he captured? What made DP Tyrant conspire to attack Galactus with his guard down? What made DP Tyrant use his technopathy to usurp Galactus' energy when he had spent eons collecting his own energy? Was his own independent power not enough?

You want to know how this all ended? It ended with DP Tyrant begging and mewling for mercy at the hands of the very Herald he "won" from Galactus. You could say that Galactus' choice was prescient:

Originally posted by zopzop
Unlike Warlock's 'punking', there was NO ONE to step in and save Tyrant from Galactus' wrath.

He did not outright surrender. You still don't get it? It would have been a surrender if Galactus got what he came for and "DP" Tyrant left without being attacked. But that's not what happened did it? Not only was Galactus DENIED what he came for, Tyrant all but dared him to attack and reclaim his herald, in the end it was Galactus who backed down and the Surfer called him out on his "appeasement".

Who stepped in to save Warlock when Galactus blasted him? Your prevarications over this are shocking. Warlock punked Galactus. Humiliated him outright and Warlock never agreed to run away before doing so unlike DP Tyrant. Galactus showed up to take control of the assault against IG Thanos. When Warlock challenged him and insulted him, Galactus tried to kill him. You can't take it, can you? After pinning all your hopes and dreams on this non-feat of "punking" where Galactus lets DP Tyrant retreat, you're so upset you won't even admit that other characters have done it and done it better. Unreal.

This scan is reposted again because you can't take it:

Anyway, your red herring deflections are garbage. Your campaign to drive all focus on this "punking" scene doesn't change facts: it's a non-feat. So Galactus agreed to let DP Tyrant keep Morg after DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings? Gimme a break. Galactus has superior real feats in spades.

Galactus one-shots Thanos. Galactus one-shots Surfer. DP Tyrant didn't do either. Galactus eats suns and one-shots galaxies. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus no-sells multiple Negabombs. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus faced down Abraxas w/ UN. DP Tyrant begged like a cheap prostitute against Morg w/ UN. Galactus survived the UN's energies. DP Tyrant didn't.

DP Tyrant has no independent feat beyond absorbing Galactus' own power that places him anywhere near Galactus in power. And if DP Tyrant absorbing Galactus' power by usurping Galactus' tech was all you needed to get to that level, Doom's done that twice. If pissing Galactus off after agreeing to run away from him was all you needed to get to that level, Adam Warlock pissed him off without announcing he was going to run away.

This off-topic discussion has run its course. You can pin your hopes and dreams on a single non-feat. But dragging this conversation on for several pages only highlights your unwillingness to get over this clear fact: Galactus >>>>>>>> DP Tyrant.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And here you still can't get over DP Tyrant outright agreeing to run away and asking not be attacked once Galactus showed up. DP Tyrant even gave up 6 Herald-level beings that he spent two entire issues collecting and beating down.

That's not how it ended was it? Because the stipulation for Galactus NOT attacking Tyrant was for him to hand over his herald, he didn't care for the rest and he said so himself. Galactus even said if Tyrant didn't hand him over there would be war between them. Tyrant did not hand him over and got into a stare down with Galactus. It was Galactus who blinked and walked away without his herald. The Surfer was awake during all this and asked Galactus why he appeased a foe.

I'm not here to make your arguments for you. What made DP Tyrant wait for a "more opportune moment" to confront Galactus? What stopped DP Tyrant from keeping all 7 Herald-level beings he captured? What made DP Tyrant conspire to attack Galactus with his guard down? What made DP Tyrant use his technopathy to usurp Galactus' energy when he had spent eons collecting his own energy? Was his own independent power not enough?

Because Galactus was his peer and he was taken unawares. The beauty of this is as the conversation progressed we saw it was Galactus who backed down from the fight, NOT Tyrant.

Galactus' machines were draining him. That's why. It said so on panel. Tyrant overcame then with his Technopathy and proceeded to WTFPWN Galactus. Tyrant didn't even care to lash out with his Technopathy (by turning Galactus' ship against him) till Galactus chickened out and cheated first.

You want to know how this all ended? It ended with DP Tyrant begging and mewling for mercy at the hands of the very Herald he "won" from Galactus. You could say that Galactus' choice was prescient:

Yeah he LOST to the UN after he cleaned Galactus' clock and bloodied him. Now losing to the UN is a low showing?

Who stepped in to save Warlock when Galactus blasted him? Your prevarications over this are shocking. Warlock punked Galactus. Humiliated him outright and Warlock never agreed to run away before doing so unlike DP Tyrant. Galactus showed up to take control of the assault against IG Thanos. When Warlock challenged him and insulted him, Galactus tried to kill him. You can't take it, can you? After pinning all your hopes and dreams on this non-feat of "punking" where Galactus lets DP Tyrant retreat, you're so upset you won't even admit that other characters have done it and done it better. Unreal.

Seriously? Who stepped in? Order and Chaos did, then the rest of the cosmics followed suit. Who was stopping Galactus from cleaning Tyrant's clock and reclaiming his herald if they weren't peers and Tyrant was below him?

This scan is reposted again because you can't take it:

That's nice, now show how it ended. Oh wait.......

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anyway, your red herring deflections are garbage. Your campaign to drive all focus on this "punking" scene doesn't change facts: it's a non-feat. So Galactus agreed to let DP Tyrant keep Morg after DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings? Gimme a break. Galactus has superior [b]real feats in spades.

Galactus one-shots Thanos. Galactus one-shots Surfer. DP Tyrant didn't do either. Galactus eats suns and one-shots galaxies. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus no-sells multiple Negabombs. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus faced down Abraxas w/ UN. DP Tyrant begged like a cheap prostitute against Morg w/ UN. Galactus survived the UN's energies. DP Tyrant didn't.

DP Tyrant has no independent feat beyond absorbing Galactus' own power that places him anywhere near Galactus in power. And if DP Tyrant absorbing Galactus' power by usurping Galactus' tech was all you needed to get to that level, Doom's done that twice. If pissing Galactus off after agreeing to run away from him was all you needed to get to that level, Adam Warlock pissed him off without announcing he was going to run away.

This off-topic discussion has run its course. You can pin your hopes and dreams on a single non-feat. But dragging this conversation on for several pages only highlights your unwillingness to get over this clear fact: Galactus >>>>>>>> DP Tyrant. [/B]

And yet Galactus walked away from a fight after threatening war with DP Tyrant in their first encounter since his exile. Then was crushed by him in their second and final encounter until Morg stepped in and beat him using the UN. 🙄

^ It ended with this:

You love how DP Tyrant's campaign against Galactus ended. Getting killed by the very Herald that DP Tyrant "won" away from Galactus when DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings.

Get this through your head:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anyway, your red herring deflections are garbage. Your campaign to drive all focus on this "punking" scene doesn't change facts: it's a non-feat. So Galactus agreed to let DP Tyrant keep Morg after DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings? Gimme a break. Galactus has superior [b]real feats in spades.

Galactus one-shots Thanos. Galactus one-shots Surfer. DP Tyrant didn't do either. Galactus eats suns and one-shots galaxies. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus no-sells multiple Negabombs. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus faced down Abraxas w/ UN. DP Tyrant begged like a cheap prostitute against Morg w/ UN. Galactus survived the UN's energies. DP Tyrant didn't.

DP Tyrant has no independent feat beyond absorbing Galactus' own power that places him anywhere near Galactus in power. And if DP Tyrant absorbing Galactus' power by usurping Galactus' tech was all you needed to get to that level, Doom's done that twice. If pissing Galactus off after agreeing to run away from him was all you needed to get to that level, Adam Warlock pissed him off without announcing he was going to run away.

This off-topic discussion has run its course. You can pin your hopes and dreams on a single non-feat. But dragging this conversation on for several pages only highlights your unwillingness to get over this clear fact: Galactus >>>>>>>> DP Tyrant. [/B]

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It ended with this:

Yeah, he lost to the UN. After cleaning Galactus' clock.


You love how DP Tyrant's campaign against Galactus ended. Getting killed by the very Herald that DP Tyrant "won" away from Galactus when DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings.

Get this through your head:

Getting killed by the UN. Yeah what a pitiful showing. 🙄

^ Getting killed by the UN isn't pitiful. Getting killed by the very Herald that DP Tyrant "won" away from Galactus when DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings... and bing reduced to a begging mewlng b1tch... that's ironically pitiful.

It's also "pathetic" he couldn't come back and Galactus did. Did I mention that? Oh yeah, I did right here when I start comparing their independent feats side-by-side to see if DP Tyrant really is a peer of Galactus:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anyway, your red herring deflections are garbage. Your campaign to drive all focus on this "punking" scene doesn't change facts: it's a non-feat. So Galactus agreed to let DP Tyrant keep Morg after DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings? Gimme a break. Galactus has superior [b]real feats in spades.

Galactus one-shots Thanos. Galactus one-shots Surfer. DP Tyrant didn't do either. Galactus eats suns and one-shots galaxies. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus no-sells multiple Negabombs. DP Tyrant hasn't. Galactus faced down Abraxas w/ UN. DP Tyrant begged like a cheap prostitute against Morg w/ UN. Galactus survived the UN's energies. DP Tyrant didn't.

DP Tyrant has no independent feat beyond absorbing Galactus' own power that places him anywhere near Galactus in power. And if DP Tyrant absorbing Galactus' power by usurping Galactus' tech was all you needed to get to that level, Doom's done that twice. If pissing Galactus off after agreeing to run away from him was all you needed to get to that level, Adam Warlock pissed him off without announcing he was going to run away.

This off-topic discussion has run its course. You can pin your hopes and dreams on a single non-feat. But dragging this conversation on for several pages only highlights your unwillingness to get over this clear fact: Galactus >>>>>>>> DP Tyrant. [/B]

Cry more. This "punking" red herring is done and over with. Non-feat. Always was, always will be. DP Tyrant defeating Galactus by draining his power was old news by the time Doom did it twice. Let me know when you're ready to discuss actual feats. But even if you're not willing, every single post that you refuse to discuss them only serves to drive the point home:

Galactus >>>>>>>> DP Tyrant

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Getting killed by the UN isn't pitiful. Getting killed by the very Herald that DP Tyrant "won" away from Galactus when DP Tyrant asked to run away and not be attacked and gave up 6 other Herald-level beings... and bing reduced to a begging mewlng b1tch... that's ironically pitiful.

Nah, being in fear of being threatened and attacked by a weapon like the UN isn't something to be ashamed of. Tyrant took everything Galactus had and kept at him. The only thing that saved Galactus was the UN. Nothing else he tried worked.

It's also "pathetic" he couldn't come back and Galactus did. Did I mention that? Oh yeah, I did right here when I start comparing their independent feats side-by-side to see if DP Tyrant really is a peer of Galactus: Cry more. This "punking" red herring is done and over with. DP Tyrant defeating Galactus by draining his power was old news by the time Doom did it twice.

How exactly did Galactus come back? When was this? The Handbook said he teleported away at the last instant. But then again, he didn't have the majority of his body dissolved by the UN.

And he got punked by Tyrant, get over it.