Classic Mangog vs. Tyrant (depowered)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And of course, I showed where DP Tyrant was the first one who agreed to retreat, provided he was unmolested. For anyone who is trying to pass this treaty off as Galactus completely surrendering: stop lying. DP Tyrant is the first one to agree that they should back off from each other.

The rest is simple negotiation of terms. Galactus offering Surfer and everyone else. DP Tyrant demanding Morg. Galactus giving him Morg. Which ended up backfiring horribly considering Morg betrayed DP Tyrant in the end. So, yes, Galactus even backing off his unilateral arbitrary demands is a feat, in and of itself. But it doesn't elevate DP Tyrant to Galactus' level. That's a retarded sh1tty argument. Adam Warlock embarassed Galactus in front of all the Abstracts and Galactus conceded leadership of the counter-offensive against IG Thanos. Galactus went so far as to even attack Adam Warlock over this issue (to no avail). That doesn't phucking elevate Adam Warlock to Galactus' level of power.

And these arguments over the "punking" of Galactus are just more of the same sh1t. If that's the best feat of DP Tyrant ya'll have, no wonder you're rallying around it. Pathetic, to say the least.

Originally posted by zopzop
If you still doubt how determined Galactus was to get Morg back :

Dude, he went there for his herald, pissed. He left empty handed.He even said he didn't care for the others he DEMANDED his herald back or he'd start a war. When push came to shove, HE was the one that relented. . He got punked. Deal with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
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Caraaaaaap! You guys are reaching.
Your entire defense is based on your interpretations of vague statements and innuendo concerning things that never actually happened on panel.

OK. Here is mine... Since Galactus is sitting, has an uncomfortable look on his face and freaking out Firelord, my interpretation is that he has to take a horrible dump!

Here's a tip, on-panel feats will always trump an interpretation of a vague statement, made about something that has never even happened!

Originally posted by Horrificus
What the heck is this supposed to imply?! 😆
You guys are so funny.
OK. Now, I guess we should buy into the omnipotence of Tyrant because, what? Firelord said Galactus is angry?

Caraaaaaap! You guys are reaching.
Your entire defense is based on your interpretations of vague statements and innuendo concerning things that never actually happened on panel.

OK. Here is mine... Since Galactus is sitting, has an uncomfortable look on his face and freaking out Firelord, my interpretation is that he has to take a horrible dump!

Here's a tip, on-panel feats will always trump an interpretation of a vague statement, made about something that has never even happened!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And of course, I showed where DP Tyrant was the first one who agreed to retreat, provided he was unmolested. For anyone who is trying to pass this treaty off as Galactus completely surrendering: stop lying. DP Tyrant is the first one to agree that they should back off from each other.

The rest is simple negotiation of terms. Galactus offering Surfer and everyone else. DP Tyrant demanding Morg. Galactus giving him Morg. Which ended up backfiring horribly considering Morg betrayed DP Tyrant in the end. So, yes, Galactus even backing off his unilateral arbitrary demands is a feat, in and of itself. But it doesn't elevate DP Tyrant to Galactus' level. That's a retarded sh1tty argument. Adam Warlock embarassed Galactus in front of all the Abstracts and Galactus conceded leadership of the counter-offensive against IG Thanos. Galactus went so far as to even attack Adam Warlock over this issue (to no avail). That doesn't phucking elevate Adam Warlock to Galactus' level of power.

And these arguments over the "punking" of Galactus are just more of the same sh1t. If that's the best feat of DP Tyrant ya'll have, no wonder you're rallying around it. Pathetic, to say the least.

Who cares who declined the prospect of battle first? It was only after the realization that there would be nothing left to rule over that Tyrant proceeded to object to a full scale battle. Even after Big G threatened to promote battle due to not liking Tyrants package deal, he still withdrew. And Galactus didn't "give" him Morg, Tyrant retained him. Against both of their wills. Big difference.

As far as Tyrants power level, you can continue to ignore informative context such as Galactus stating he'll need all his strength for such a foe/stating he hasn't felt this powered up in ages after obtaining fully fed status in preparation for said threat/Tyrant stating he's at the height of his power after amassing power for eons/Surfer's cosmic awareness alluding they'll destroy each other & feeling something akin to fear in Galan/Thanos admitting Tyrant would kill him even with a amp provided by Tyrant himself/etc. all you want. It's just a sign of denial on your part. 😬

^ DP Tyrant already agreed not to get into it with Galactus. He wanted to retreat and not be attacked by Galactus. His only request was to retain a prisoner. Choosing who that prisoner was might have rankled Galactus but Galactus made the smart choice in the end (only a retarded monkey could dispute otherwise).

DP Tyrant has no independent feats raising him anywhere close to Galactus' level. Get over this. Anything else is red herring bullsh1t and utterly meaningless. When you can point to an on-panel feat, let me know. All I've heard is petulant b1tching and whining about DP Tyrant not getting recognition. He's got his recognition where it's due. He's powerful to treat Thanos like a prostitute. Galactus is far beyond that. And that's based on proof. Not on non-feats that amount to posturing. Not recognizing that is just a sign of b1tch whining on your part. 😬

Originally posted by zopzop
If you still doubt how determined Galactus was to get Morg back :

Dude, he went there for his herald, pissed. He left empty handed.He even said he didn't care for the others he DEMANDED his herald back or he'd start a war. When push came to shove, HE was the one that relented. . He got punked. Deal with it.

That's worth a mouse's fart concerning DP Tyrant's independent power level and his statute next to Galactus. DP Tyrant has no independent feats that come anywhere close to Galactus'.

Deal with that. Again, DP Tyrant was the one who retreated. Galactus traded Morg for Silver Surfer and everyone else. Which ended up being a good trade. Making Galactus concede a speck of dust is an impressive feat. But it has almost nothing to do with DP Tyrant's stature and power.

So deal with that. And you can begin dealing with that by recognizing that Adam Warlock "punked" Galactus far worse than DP Tyrant ever did during Infinity Gauntlet. I suspect that once you admit that, then you'll start seeing how all this rhetoric garbage is nothing but meaningless red herring horsesh1t. A farcical non-feat for non-feat's sake.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus backed down on panel because Tyrant is powerful enough to best/challenge him.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Who cares who declined the prospect of battle first? It was only after the realization that there would be nothing left to rule over that Tyrant proceeded to object to a full scale battle. Even after Big G threatened to promote battle due to not liking Tyrants package deal, he still withdrew. And Galactus didn't "give" him Morg, Tyrant retained him. Against both of their wills. Big difference.

As far as Tyrants power level, you can continue to ignore informative context such as Galactus stating he'll need all his strength for such a foe/stating he hasn't felt this powered up in ages after obtaining fully fed status in preparation for said threat/Tyrant stating he's at the height of his power after amassing power for eons/Surfer's cosmic awareness alluding they'll destroy each other & feeling something akin to fear in Galan/Thanos admitting Tyrant would kill him even with a amp provided by Tyrant himself/etc. all you want. It's just a sign of denial on your part. 😬

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DP Tyrant already agreed not to get into it with Galactus. He wanted to retreat and not be attacked by Galactus. His only request was to retain a prisoner. Choosing who that prisoner was might have rankled Galactus but Galactus made the smart choice in the end (only a retarded monkey could dispute otherwise).

DP Tyrant has no independent feats raising him anywhere close to Galactus' level. Get over this. Anything else is red herring bullsh1t and utterly meaningless. When you can point to an on-panel feat, let me know. All I've heard is petulant b1tching and whining about DP Tyrant not getting recognition. He's got his recognition where it's due. He's powerful to treat Thanos like a prostitute. Galactus is far beyond that. And that's based on proof. Not on non-feats that amount to posturing. Not recognizing that is just a sign of b1tch whining on your part. 😬 You act like I'm upset over this. Galactus confronted DP Tyrant. They talked about how they shouldn't get into it with each other. [b]DP Tyrant was the first one to agree that he should retreat (begrudgingly) and asked to leave unmolested with someone that he could suck on (no homo). Galactus said take who you want, just not Morg. DP Tyrant insisted and got his way.

That's worth a mouse's fart concerning DP Tyrant's independent power level and his statute next to Galactus. DP Tyrant has no independent feats that come anywhere close to Galactus'.

Deal with that. Again, DP Tyrant was the one who retreated. Galactus traded Morg for Silver Surfer and everyone else. Which ended up being a good trade. Making Galactus concede a speck of dust is an impressive feat. But it has almost nothing to do with DP Tyrant's stature and power.

So deal with that. And you can begin dealing with that by recognizing that Adam Warlock "punked" Galactus far worse than DP Tyrant ever did during Infinity Gauntlet. I suspect that once you admit that, then you'll start seeing how all this rhetoric garbage is nothing but meaningless red herring horsesh1t. A farcical non-feat for non-feat's sake. [/B]

1. Tyrant had hoped to avoid Galactus. That doesn't sound very confident.
2. Tyrant admits it is unseemly to retreat and that it is in his best interest to do so. (Um, yeah. That's scary talk.) 😉 Kickin' butt and takin' names!
3. Why does he need one of the heralds as a power source?

This entire panel disproves the Pro-Tyrant-pals.
Tyrant first admits that he just wants to go home, he doesn't want any of what Galactus is selling and that he needs one of the heralds for a power source.
Then, he hangs onto the only herald that Galactus wants.

And, THAT doesn't sound like a hostage situation?

Tyrant is obviously NOT speaking from the power-position. He wants out.

Holding onto Morg helps him in 2 ways:

1. His need for power.
and
2. Insurance so he can get away, which is what he has just humbly asked for.

*Translation to the lower, highlighted caption:

Please don't molest me Galactus. I'm just a Lil' Fella'.
I just wanna go home now, please, Mr. Galactus, sir. 😮

And, it would be nice if you let me borrow one of your heralds, otherwise, I might not have enough juice to get home.

Originally posted by Horrificus
That was never stated or implied on panel. Not even by Tyrant.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DP Tyrant already agreed not to get into it with Galactus. He wanted to retreat and not be attacked by Galactus. His only request was to retain a prisoner. Choosing who that prisoner was might have rankled Galactus but Galactus made the smart choice in the end (only a retarded monkey could dispute otherwise).

DP Tyrant has no independent feats raising him anywhere close to Galactus' level. Get over this. Anything else is red herring bullsh1t and utterly meaningless. When you can point to an on-panel feat, let me know. All I've heard is petulant b1tching and whining about DP Tyrant not getting recognition. He's got his recognition where it's due. He's powerful to treat Thanos like a prostitute. Galactus is far beyond that. And that's based on proof. Not on non-feats that amount to posturing. Not recognizing that is just a sign of b1tch whining on your part. 😬 You act like I'm upset over this. Galactus confronted DP Tyrant. They talked about how they shouldn't get into it with each other. [b]DP Tyrant was the first one to agree that he should retreat (begrudgingly) and asked to leave unmolested with someone that he could suck on (no homo). Galactus said take who you want, just not Morg. DP Tyrant insisted and got his way.

That's worth a mouse's fart concerning DP Tyrant's independent power level and his statute next to Galactus. DP Tyrant has no independent feats that come anywhere close to Galactus'.

Deal with that. Again, DP Tyrant was the one who retreated. Galactus traded Morg for Silver Surfer and everyone else. Which ended up being a good trade. Making Galactus concede a speck of dust is an impressive feat. But it has almost nothing to do with DP Tyrant's stature and power.

So deal with that. And you can begin dealing with that by recognizing that Adam Warlock "punked" Galactus far worse than DP Tyrant ever did during Infinity Gauntlet. I suspect that once you admit that, then you'll start seeing how all this rhetoric garbage is nothing but meaningless red herring horsesh1t. A farcical non-feat for non-feat's sake. [/B]

👆, Ownage on a major level, Onedumbgo wins by a landslide!!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DP Tyrant already agreed not to get into it with Galactus. He wanted to retreat and not be attacked by Galactus. His only request was to retain a prisoner. Choosing who that prisoner was might have rankled Galactus but Galactus made the smart choice in the end (only a retarded monkey could dispute otherwise).

DP Tyrant has no independent feats raising him anywhere close to Galactus' level. Get over this. Anything else is red herring bullsh1t and utterly meaningless. When you can point to an on-panel feat, let me know. All I've heard is petulant b1tching and whining about DP Tyrant not getting recognition. He's got his recognition where it's due. He's powerful to treat Thanos like a prostitute. Galactus is far beyond that. And that's based on proof. Not on non-feats that amount to posturing. Not recognizing that is just a sign of b1tch whining on your part. 😬 You act like I'm upset over this. Galactus confronted DP Tyrant. They talked about how they shouldn't get into it with each other. [b]DP Tyrant was the first one to agree that he should retreat (begrudgingly) and asked to leave unmolested with someone that he could suck on (no homo). Galactus said take who you want, just not Morg. DP Tyrant insisted and got his way.

That's worth a mouse's fart concerning DP Tyrant's independent power level and his statute next to Galactus. DP Tyrant has no independent feats that come anywhere close to Galactus'.

Deal with that. Again, DP Tyrant was the one who retreated. Galactus traded Morg for Silver Surfer and everyone else. Which ended up being a good trade. Making Galactus concede a speck of dust is an impressive feat. But it has almost nothing to do with DP Tyrant's stature and power.

So deal with that. And you can begin dealing with that by recognizing that Adam Warlock "punked" Galactus far worse than DP Tyrant ever did during Infinity Gauntlet. I suspect that once you admit that, then you'll start seeing how all this rhetoric garbage is nothing but meaningless red herring horsesh1t. A farcical non-feat for non-feat's sake. [/B]

Let me get this straight :

Galactus, in a rage, goes after his herald (scan provided)
Finds and takes Tyrant by surprise (scan provided)
Demands his herald back lest there be war between them (scan provided)
Leaves without his herald despite all his threats (scan provided)

How the F#$K is that not a punking?

Originally posted by zopzop
Let me get this straight :

Galactus, in a rage, goes after his herald (scan provided)
Finds and takes Tyrant by surprise (scan provided)
Demands his herald back lest there be war between them (scan provided)
Leaves without his herald despite all his threats (scan provided)

How the F#$K is that not a punking?

No matter how ODG & horrificus try to twist it, they are too stubborn to admit this.

Originally posted by the Darkone
👆, Ownage on a major level, Onedumbgo wins by a landslide!!

Contratulations. You've just relegated yourself to the title of kmc's most recent cheerleader. 👆

Don't get caught up in the usual bashing and deformation of character by ODG.

This is really just another implied power vs. on panel feats debate. Tyrant doesn't have that many appearances to accumulate the recommended feats to place him closer to Big G's level for the anti - Tyrant side. However there are enough circumstances & references to implied power to suggest would be feats could be performed to place him near that level for the pro - Tyrant side.

Originally posted by Sundipped
No matter how ODG & horrificus try to twist it, they are too stubborn to admit this.

Tyrant wins easily.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Contratulations. You've just relegated yourself to the title of kmc's most recent cheerleader. 👆

Don't get caught up in the usual bashing and deformation of character by ODG.

This is really just another implied power vs. on panel feats debate. Tyrant doesn't have that many appearances to accumulate the recommended feats to place him closer to Big G's level for the anti - Tyrant side. However there are enough circumstances & references to implied power to suggest would be feats could be performed to place him near that level for the pro - Tyrant side.

YOu are doing what you accuses Onedumbgo and Horrifiuc of doing, your the cheer leader.

DP Tyrant is not Galactus equal at all, he isn't even on the same level when he battled Galactus and was stripped of his powers, so what makes you think that, even by his own words Tyrant didn't want to battle Galactus. DP Tyrant at best mid Sky father level , as where Classic Mangog was at top tier in power and might, it took Odin death too beat him. There is more proof that Classic Mangog is too much for DP Tyrant, Classic Mangog is the PC Validus of the Marvel universe.

Originally posted by the Darkone

DP Tyrant is not Galactus equal at all, he isn't even on the same level when he battled Galactus and was stripped of his powers....

FAIL!

Read these scans again.....slowly and let it sink in. If you understood what you just read, you'll know what you just posted is 100% incorrect.

Originally posted by zopzop
[B]

If you still don't get it, I'll point it out to you later.

Originally posted by Horrificus

*Translation to the lower, highlighted caption:

Please don't molest me Galactus. I'm just a Lil' Fella'.
I just wanna go home now, please, Mr. Galactus, sir. 😮

And, it would be nice if you let me borrow one of your heralds, otherwise, I might not have enough juice to get home.

This statement alone down grades DP Tyrant status supposedly equal to Galactus which is not true!!