Viking life

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
okay i found him on wiki.. his nordic name was bjarki little bear

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6dvar_Bjarki

LOL thats it.

The famous poem Bjarkamál (of which only a few stanzas are preserved but which Saxo Grammaticus presents in the form of a florid Latin paraphrase) is understood as a dialogue between Bödvar Bjarki and his younger companion Hjalti which begins by Hjalti again and again urging Bödvar to awake from his sleep and fight for King Hrólf in this last battle in which they are doomed to defeat. As explained in the prose, this rousing was ill-done, as Bjarki was in a trance and his spirit in the form of a monstrous bear was already aiding Hrólf far more than Bjarki could do with only his mannish strength.

He's also a fictional character. Yeah

But on that notion, the American Indians believed in animal spirits and the taking of then on, therefore, Vikings and Apache are the same.

Edit: I believe the Aztec did too, so it's safe to say Viking's are Mexicans.

Originally posted by Deadline
No you didn't even read my arguments properly. facepalm

makes it even worse.. i know. but being in a trance doesnt exactly scream asian meditation technique..

i have a totem animal, astrological animals both european and chinese calender as well as a spirit guide.. i am rocking on the spiritual connections

Originally posted by Robtard
He's also a fictional character. Yeah.

He may have actually existed. Mythology and history get mixed up. Sometimes mythology reveals practices that may have taken place.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's also a fictional character. Yeah

But on that notion, the American Indians believed in animal spirits and the taking of then on, therefore, Vikings and Apache are the same.

Edit: I believe the Aztec did too, so it's safe to say Viking's are Mexicans.

Originally posted by Deadline
He may have actually existed. Mythology and history get mixed up. Sometimes mythology reveals practices that may have taken place.

He may also have not. Either way, you're "bear spirit trance" angle doesn't really jive to well with your Hindu notion.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats funny didn't have a problem when inimalist was asking for evidence. Oh no maybe I don't have a problem with people asking evidence.

Oh goodie.

Do you have any evidence that the iron shirt technique could block a sword?

Originally posted by Robtard
He may also have not. Either way, you're "bear spirit trance" angle doesn't really jive to well with your Hindu notion.

It does to an extent.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
makes it even worse.. i know. but being in a trance doesnt exactly scream asian meditation technique

Not neccesarily. Odin was said to have gone into a trance and make his sould leave his body. Odin doesn't exist but that meditation practice did exist.

The reason why i think he could have been meditating is beacuse:

1. He was in a trance
2. Odin was also said to do similar thing
3. Beserkers were mostly followers of Odin and followers tended to emulate their god.

You're not going to read any of the sagas and get anybody saying ther were meditating my point is that people did things in those days and when they fought they were meditating they were doing something else. For example somebody today can meditate and make himself think hes transformed into bear on a battlefield. In those days they would go into a trance and they would actually think they were doing it.

Originally posted by Deadline
He may have actually existed. Mythology and history get mixed up. Sometimes mythology reveals practices that may have taken place.

If you google "iron shit", this is the first hit.

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-iron-a-shirt

Originally posted by King Kandy
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Mytholody doesn't teach you anything about history and they don't get intertwined I think they do. Look at some of the Icelandic sagas stuff that happened in there did actually happen but mythology gets mixed up with it.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you google "iron shit", this is the first hit.

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-iron-a-shirt

To be quite honest with you I just think you're just taking offence to it really.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you google "iron shit", this is the first hit.

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-iron-a-shirt

Really?

Originally posted by Deadline
Mytholody doesn't teach you anything about history and they don't get intertwined I think they do. Look at some of the Icelandic sagas stuff that happened in there did actually happen but mythology gets mixed up with it.

Originally posted by Deadline
It does to an extent.

Not neccesarily. Odin was said to have gone into a trance and make his sould leave his body. Odin doesn't exist but that meditation practice did exist.

The reason why i think he could have been meditating is beacuse:

1. He was in a trance
2. Odin was also said to do similar thing
3. Beserkers were mostly followers of Odin and followers tended to emulate their god.

You're not going to read any of the sagas and get anybody saying ther were meditating my point is that people did things in those days and when they fought they were meditating they were doing something else. For example somebody today can meditate and make himself think hes transformed into bear on a battlefield. In those days they would go into a trance and they would actually think they were doing it.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats funny didn't have a problem when inimalist was asking for evidence. Oh no maybe I don't have a problem with people asking evidence.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh goodie.

Do you have any evidence that the iron shirt technique could block a sword?

*cough*

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
they drank honey beer and ate shrooms and goated themselves into a frenzy or went into a blood rage which happens to soldiers even today is needed to survive certain situations it is normally called fog of war.. just b/c they did this doesnt mean the practice originated from a group of ppl.... especially when the ppl who did it were none violent monks and priest..

He wasn't on the battlefield.....

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
most gods and various mythological beings can astral project that doesnt mean they got that from india.. all it means is the they had a shamanistic view on their religion which most early cultures were as they developed into more complicated religions with gods and patriarchs

You don't have descriptions of God doing so in that manner. No actually I don't really know of any other examples of other gods doing that.

anyways i wont dismiss your myth argument if a myth stories shows the exact same meditation practices of another culture i might be willing to accept that they were heavily influenced by said culture so far you havent show that to be the case.

but to everyone else myths usually does arise from some form of truth i know we are being harsh on deadline but lets not completely dismiss a myth story and give it no second thought in what it can tell us of a ppl and how they viewed the world or even what they may have done day to day...

either way a giant drinking hall was recently discovered which gave some creditability that at least part of the Beowulf myth may have bn based on some factual moment or kingdom lost and forgotten and only remembered in myths and oral tradition

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
*cough*

Yeah and I gave you my explanation take it or leave it.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
anyways i wont dismiss your myth argument if a myth stories shows the exact same meditation practices of another culture i might be willing to accept that they were heavily influenced by said culture so far you havent show that to be the case.

Yes but I explained that. Nobody uses the word meditation in sagas you deduce they were doing that. When you meditate you go into a trance. That guy was in a trance and seemed to be doing a form of meditation that Odin did. Followers of their gods would emulate their god. Also there is an indian meditation called the death posture which is similar.

Also that picture of that God is exactly the same as showings of other Hindu gods. Celts and Vikings were very similar culturaly. Also that meditating posture is not a natural one its uncomfortable and somebody would also use due to tradition.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

either way a giant drinking hall was recently discovered which gave some creditability that at least part of the Beowulf myth may have bn based on some factual moment or kingdom lost and forgotten and only remembered in myths and oral tradition

My point exactly.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yeah and I gave you my explanation take it or leave it.

Not responding to me isn't an explanation.