Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeHe is stronger than dante but he won't just blow right through him. Kratos has one feat of incredible strength in resisting Cronos' fingers but even Hades was besting him in combat. This isn't a lifting contest it's who wins i a fight with weapons.
You overlook Kratos being much stronger than Dante.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteSince when was Kratos unable to be pierced? I wonder sometimes where people's common sense is.
Kratos is stronger and more durable, is Dante even strong enough to damage Kratos? You better have a damn good strength feat for him, Quanchi.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixKratos got wrecked by Zeus' lightning bolt. Sure he has good feats but the guy is beatable. If the scythe hits his flesh do you really think it will bounce off?
And he overlooks Kratos being able to react to Lightning bolts thrown by Zeus, and being able to block weapons with his hands, never mind the Golden Fleece 😐Kratos is far more durable, and much faster when it comes to movement speed. (thanks to the Boots of Hermes)
He also likes throwing around the Ares Pillar Toss that killed Kratos. I'll simply say that Dante was killed by a knife 😐 Pillar Toss from miles away >>>>>>>> Knife stab.
Originally posted by PhanterosSo him laughing off the scythe isn't a feat? what about dante's feats throughout the game and when he gets to the end guy he can't defeat him or even really injure him in combat. 2+2=4.
You ignored a huge part of my arguement. Lucifer through out the game virtually is featless while Zeus has feats. Zeus was stabbed 5 times and still standed then Kratos put all the effort in the sixth blow.this whole entire argument you overlooked everything Kratos has done compared to Dante.
Originally posted by PhanterosThe thing is people are ignoring his gear whereas I look at the big picture which makes me smart.
Let me; guess with Link?
The thing is people are ignoring his gear whereas I look at the big picture which makes me smart.Lol'd. There's 9001 instances of Link displaying super strength, but you deny it just because he chooses to be aware of the laws of physics.
Since when was Kratos unable to be pierced? I wonder sometimes where people's common sense is.
If the scythe hits his flesh do you really think it will bounce off?Unless Dante has an INCREDIBLE strength feat, yes, Dante's attacks will bounce off. Kratos is durable, thus you need to be strong to damage him.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot one without gear to help him do so. He's a regular guy with awesome gear who later becomes really skilled.
Lol'd. There's 9001 instances of Link displaying super strength, but you deny it just because he chooses to be aware of the laws of physics.
Unless Dante has an INCREDIBLE strength feat, yes, Dante's attacks will bounce off. Kratos is durable, thus you need to be strong to damage him.
Who couldn't dante pierce? When has Kratos even been able to just stand there and allow someone to swing as hard as they want into him because he's so durable.
Not one without gear to help him do so. He's a regular guy with awesome gear who later becomes really skilled.Go put something really heavy on your feet and try to stop a car, then throw it. Then come back, if you can still move, and try and tell me Link doesn't have super strength. 🙂
Does Dante have a strength feat at all? If not, there are thousands of characters in fiction he cannot pierce. Kratos would be among them with ease.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is stronger than dante but he won't just blow right through him. Kratos has one feat of incredible strength in resisting Cronos' fingers but even Hades was besting him in combat. This isn't a lifting contest it's who wins i a fight with weapons.
Hades was never besting him in combat.
No one has bested Kratos in combat, outside of the Barbarian King (in their first encounter), and Charon (again, in the first encounter). Even Zeus was bested in their combat skirmish on the Summit of Sacrifice, and he then had to
Originally posted by quanchi112
Since when was Kratos unable to be pierced? I wonder sometimes where people's common sense is.
Who said he's unable to be pierced? There's a difference between "He can't be pierced by Dante," and "He can't be pierced at all."
Normal Thanos is beatable, but can he be beaten by the likes of Hercules? Nahh man.
Stop chiding others on their supposed lack of common sense. Doesn't put you in a good light.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos got wrecked by Zeus' lightning bolt. Sure he has good feats but the guy is beatable. If the scythe hits his flesh do you really think it will bounce off?
Dante got wrecked by a knife. Lightning >>>>>>>>> Knife.
No one here is arguing that Kratos cannot be beaten. He just can't be beaten in a weapon fight by the likes of Dante.
Like Scream said, unless Dante has Class 100+ strength, he isn't hurting Kratos with a Scythe, not even if it could cut through 50 feet of Bronze when swung by a Class 100+ person.
Even if he did, him wounding Kratos still isn't a given, seeing as how Kratos has the fleece and can block sword swings from a Class 100+ being with his hands.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So him laughing off the scythe isn't a feat? what about dante's feats throughout the game and when he gets to the end guy he can't defeat him or even really injure him in combat. 2+2=4.
Kratos has way more feats than Dante, yet couldn't properly injure Hades and had to resort to taking his soul.
2+2=4.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNever. Just because the folks at zelda think it's cool to have Link just need iron boots and act as if his body doesn't get knocked over in the boots don't assume I don't know any better.
Go put something really heavy on your feet and try to stop a car, then throw it. Then come back, if you can still move, and try and tell me Link doesn't have super strength. 🙂Does Dante have a strength feat at all? If not, there are thousands of characters in fiction he cannot pierce. Kratos would be among them with ease.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixHades was about to take Cronos' soul until Atlas attacked him then Poseidon jumped in and they defeated him. This took place in part 2. Titans could get beat by gods because they were powerful so their size and what not was negated.
Hades was never besting him in combat.
No one has bested Kratos in combat, outside of the Barbarian King (in their first encounter), and Charon (again, in the first encounter). Even Zeus was bested in their combat skirmish on the Summit of Sacrifice, and he then had toWho said he's unable to be pierced? There's a difference between "He can't be pierced by Dante," and "He can't be pierced at all."
Normal Thanos is beatable, but can he be beaten by the likes of Hercules? Nahh man.Stop chiding others on their supposed lack of common sense. Doesn't put you in a good light.
Dante got wrecked by a knife. Lightning >>>>>>>>> Knife.
No one here is arguing that Kratos cannot be beaten. He just can't be beaten in a weapon fight by the likes of Dante.Like Scream said, unless Dante has Class 100+ strength, he isn't hurting Kratos with a Scythe, not even if it could cut through 50 feet of Bronze when swung by a Class 100+ person.
Even if he did, him wounding Kratos still isn't a given, seeing as how Kratos has the fleece and can block sword swings from a Class 100+ being with his hands.Kratos has way more feats than Dante, yet couldn't properly injure Hades and had to resort to taking his soul.
2+2=4.
Thanos isn't getting beaten by Hercules because he won't stand there but even wolverine has pierced him so let's not get crazy here. Drax killed him once because Thanos had his back turned. If Kratos stands there and let's dante slash him he dies. Point blank.
Because dante's back was turned. Since then we haven't seen him get beaten and we have seen Kratos lose along with Gaea when his opponent is right in front of him. K. Thanks.
I think I need to put up an answer I got from kurt busiek when he writes things and how fans take it too far and forget about their common sense.
Kratos has been in more games than dante. Kratos has gotten superior feats as the games have strode along so why are you judging Dante because he's only been in one game?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hades was about to take Cronos' soul until Atlas attacked him then Poseidon jumped in and they defeated him. This took place in part 2. Titans could get beat by gods because they were powerful so their size and what not was negated.
Yeah, because they had exotic powers and stuff. The fight was more of a draw as well (at least until Zeus teleported all of them with the Blade of Olympus), as I'm sure there were Titans who were beating on the Gods.
Had it been a fist fight, it would have been a massive stomp in the favour of the Titans.
You've taken away Dante's & Kratos' exotic powers remember.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos isn't getting beaten by Hercules because he won't stand there but even wolverine has pierced him so let's not get crazy here. Drax killed him once because Thanos had his back turned. If Kratos stands there and let's dante slash him he dies. Point blank.
So? Did he die when he was pierced by Wolverine? In a fight, do you think Wolverine or Hercules could beat Thanos?
IF.
You still have to prove that Dante is strong enough to actually impale Kratos. Then there's the little fact that even if he is strong enough, it's not entirely certain if he'll actually strike Kratos, since Kratos has stopped BoO swings and BoO stabs with his bare hands.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because dante's back was turned. Since then we haven't seen him get beaten and we have seen Kratos lose along with Gaea when his opponent is right in front of him. K. Thanks.
Doesn't matter. You keep bringing up times when Kratos was killed in the past and act like it's relevant.
Therefore it's a defeat for Dante, by a knife no less doped
Yeah, because he was thrown off the Mountain top. Otherwise, he wasn't even hurt by the Lightning Bolt. More evidence that it will be difficult, if not impossible, for Dante to hurt him.
~ Also, Kratos has won way more fights than Dante has. kthxbai.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think I need to put up an answer I got from kurt busiek when he writes things and how fans take it too far and forget about their common sense.
Yes, you should. It would also do you good to read and recite it 10 times each night before going to bed. That way, you'll actually come to realize that you've lost your common sense.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos has been in more games than dante. Kratos has gotten superior feats as the games have strode along so why are you judging Dante because he's only been in one game?
I don't get what you are saying here. How is this refuting what I said about Hades?
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixYes, because their powers affect Cronos. Hades himself had the upper hand. Strength doesn't come into this if someone has the skill and weapon to get you before you get them.
Yeah, because they had exotic powers and stuff. The fight was more of a draw as well (at least until Zeus teleported all of them with the Blade of Olympus), as I'm sure there were Titans who were beating on the Gods.Had it been a fist fight, it would have been a massive stomp in the favour of the Titans.
You've taken away Dante's & Kratos' exotic powers remember.So? Did he die when he was pierced by Wolverine? In a fight, do you think Wolverine or Hercules could beat Thanos?
[b]IF
.You still have to prove that Dante is strong enough to actually impale Kratos. Then there's the little fact that even if he is strong enough, it's not entirely certain if he'll actually strike Kratos, since Kratos has stopped BoO swings and BoO stabs with his bare hands.
Doesn't matter. You keep bringing up times when Kratos was killed in the past and act like it's relevant.
Therefore it's a defeat for Dante, by a knife no less dopedYeah, because he was thrown off the Mountain top. Otherwise, he wasn't even hurt by the Lightning Bolt. More evidence that it will be difficult, if not impossible, for Dante to hurt him.
~ Also, Kratos has won way more fights than Dante has. kthxbai.
Yes, you should. It would also do you good to read and recite it 10 times each night before going to bed. That way, you'll actually come to realize that you've lost your common sense.
I don't get what you are saying here. How is this refuting what I said about Hades? [/B]
No, I don't think they do because Thanos is simply beyond them but if he stands there he can be cut.
Dante rips Death in half with his weapon immediately after being stabbed in the back. That to me more than tells me the guy is strong enough and has a weapon suited to kill Kratos.
Through gameplay whereas if you don't hit the proper button you get hit so it's a gameplay sort of thing.
Dante right after his defeat stomped Death so like I said without a cheapshot Dante has been unbeatable.
He was tossed aside and didn't even dodge it. It's impressive it didn't kill him but him not avoiding it really hurt Kratos.
Because Kratos has been in more fights. Dante hasn't been beaten yet when he saw his enemy. Kratos can't make the same boast.
Hades is nowhere near as formidable as someone who can just incinerate the death scythe while it's in the middle of his chest like it was nothing.
Ok at the end here will I copy and paste his explanation.
I'm not big on power stats, quanchi. I don't think it's a bad idea for the publishers to have a rough idea of power levels, but I thought it was a terrible mistake for them to codify them and publish them publicly.
They don't even make sense half the time -- if a stat in the Handbook says that Character A can lift 120 tons, most artists don't know what 120 tons looks like, and they don't go and check whether a particular airplane or tank or whatever is within the character's stated limits; they just figure that means "wicked strong" and draw what looks to them appropriately "wicked."
I think that system works better than assigning numbers -- all that happens when you do that is that someone says Spider-Man can lift 40 tons (or whatever) because of that humongous machine he lifted once with incredible effort, and then bang, all of a sudden it's his standard strength, and fans who use to see Spider-Man go up against three guys with lead pipes and think it was an okay fight are going, "No way! He can lift 40 tons! That means he can juggle Buicks!"
Never mind that Spider-Man was never the kind of character to juggle Buicks, or even lift one, but hey, it says he can lift 40 tons in a power chart somewhere, and that's taken as more important than the way the character had been written and drawn.
I don't like that, so I don't play that game. I think Superman's stronger than Thor, but I'm not going to assign numbers to it. On any given day, people's strength can be more or less anyway, depending on what they ate, how they're feeling, whether they've been working out or what, so one day a character might be stronger than another because he's having a good day and the other guy's having a bad one, but the next day it might be reversed. Stats don't tell you that, either.
As to how a fight would go if they met again, that's up to the writer who writes it. There really isn't a "majority number of wins" deal; we rig the fights. It's our job -- we're telling stories, not combat simulations.
It's one of the reasons superheroes so often triumph against more powerful foes -- stories about underdogs winning are more dramatic than stories about power stats being all that matters. It's why it's more fun to see the Avengers fight Count Nefaria than to see them fight the some guy who robbed a hot dog stand with a knife. Seeing battles go the way stats suggest they might isn't as exciting as seeing someone defy the odds.
Sorry for being long-winded, but it all boils down to me just not being interested in talking about stat comparisons and who'd win how many out of ten and other such things. I fully support people who like doing that having fun doing it; I'm just not among them.
kdb
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, because their powers affect Cronos. Hades himself had the upper hand. Strength doesn't come into this if someone has the skill and weapon to get you before you get them.
Exactly. Their powers affected Cronos. If it were a pure weapon/fist fight, Hades wouldn't have done half as well. Hades needed Poseidon's help to take down Atlas. Doubt he could have done it without Poseidon's help.
That's assuming Kratos isn't more skilled than Dante. Which he is, based on how easily he masters any weapon, and how he's taken a very large number of enemies with his Blades.
He also has the greater range.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't think they do because Thanos is simply beyond them but if he stands there he can be cut.
And Kratos will just be standing like a douche waiting for Dante to cut him amirite...as opposed to you know, doing what Thanos would do, which is demolishing his much weaker opponents.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dante rips Death in half with his weapon immediately after being stabbed in the back. That to me more than tells me the guy is strong enough and has a weapon suited to kill Kratos.
Because Death has shown durability that puts him above Kratos, amirite?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Through gameplay whereas if you don't hit the proper button you get hit so it's a gameplay sort of thing.
The hell? It's not really considered to be the same thing as 'gameplay'. It's a mini-game that is canon. Yes, it's part of the gameplay, but unlike regular gameplay which has limitations and such, the boss mini-games aren't considered to be non-canon.
If you think it's non-canon, then the entire 'Dante acquires Scythe' & Death kill scenario is non-canon, since it too took place in the same situation 😐
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dante right after his defeat stomped Death so like I said without a cheapshot Dante has been unbeatable.
And that applies to any opponent he faces, even someone like Thanos amirite?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was tossed aside and didn't even dodge it. It's impressive it didn't kill him but him not avoiding it really hurt Kratos.
tohslaugh
So then I guess Superman gets hurt every time he doesn't dodge bullets.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because Kratos has been in more fights. Dante hasn't been beaten yet when he saw his enemy. Kratos can't make the same boast.
Of course. I forgot that sneak attacks were the only things that could beat a human wielding a Scythe ha-son
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hades is nowhere near as formidable as someone who can just incinerate the death scythe while it's in the middle of his chest like it was nothing.
Lucifer is nowhere near as formidable as someone who can just reattach pieces of his flesh back, and rip someone's soul out like they were nothing doped
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok at the end here will I copy and paste his explanation.I'm not big on power stats, quanchi. I don't think it's a bad idea for the publishers to have a rough idea of power levels, but I thought it was a terrible mistake for them to codify them and publish them publicly.
They don't even make sense half the time -- if a stat in the Handbook says that Character A can lift 120 tons, most artists don't know what 120 tons looks like, and they don't go and check whether a particular airplane or tank or whatever is within the character's stated limits; they just figure that means "wicked strong" and draw what looks to them appropriately "wicked."
I think that system works better than assigning numbers -- all that happens when you do that is that someone says Spider-Man can lift 40 tons (or whatever) because of that humongous machine he lifted once with incredible effort, and then bang, all of a sudden it's his standard strength, and fans who use to see Spider-Man go up against three guys with lead pipes and think it was an okay fight are going, "No way! He can lift 40 tons! That means he can juggle Buicks!"
Never mind that Spider-Man was never the kind of character to juggle Buicks, or even lift one, but hey, it says he can lift 40 tons in a power chart somewhere, and that's taken as more important than the way the character had been written and drawn.
I don't like that, so I don't play that game. I think Superman's stronger than Thor, but I'm not going to assign numbers to it. On any given day, people's strength can be more or less anyway, depending on what they ate, how they're feeling, whether they've been working out or what, so one day a character might be stronger than another because he's having a good day and the other guy's having a bad one, but the next day it might be reversed. Stats don't tell you that, either.
As to how a fight would go if they met again, that's up to the writer who writes it. There really isn't a "majority number of wins" deal; we rig the fights. It's our job -- we're telling stories, not combat simulations.
It's one of the reasons superheroes so often triumph against more powerful foes -- stories about underdogs winning are more dramatic than stories about power stats being all that matters. It's why it's more fun to see the Avengers fight Count Nefaria than to see them fight the some guy who robbed a hot dog stand with a knife. Seeing battles go the way stats suggest they might isn't as exciting as seeing someone defy the odds.
Sorry for being long-winded, but it all boils down to me just not being interested in talking about stat comparisons and who'd win how many out of ten and other such things. I fully support people who like doing that having fun doing it; I'm just not among them.
kdb
Basically what he said at the end is that PIS is what helps those who would not win otherwise (which is what Dante is in this fight).
Seeing as PIS is off in this forum, and that this isn't a story, yeah.
Also, Kurt Busiek really didn't decide the rules in this forum.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixBecause all these fights ever are comes down to who lands their attacks on who. None of these characters are unbeatable and we saw Zeus' father falling to Hades. Hades was losing to Atlas because he took him via cheapshot whereas Poseidon returned the favor. We just previously saw hades beating Cronos so I see no reason why he couldn't best Atlas if the circumstances were different.
Exactly. Their powers affected Cronos. If it were a pure weapon/fist fight, Hades wouldn't have done half as well. Hades needed Poseidon's help to take down Atlas. Doubt he could have done it without Poseidon's help.That's assuming Kratos isn't more skilled than Dante. Which he is, based on how easily he masters any weapon, and how he's taken a very large number of enemies with his Blades.
He also has the greater range.And Kratos will just be standing like a douche waiting for Dante to cut him amirite...as opposed to you know, doing what Thanos would do, which is demolishing his much weaker opponents.
Because Death has shown durability that puts him above Kratos, amirite?
The hell? It's not really considered to be the same thing as 'gameplay'. It's a mini-game that is canon. Yes, it's part of the gameplay, but unlike regular gameplay which has limitations and such, the boss mini-games aren't considered to be non-canon.
If you think it's non-canon, then the entire 'Dante acquires Scythe' & Death kill scenario is non-canon, since it too took place in the same situation 😐
And that applies to any opponent he faces, even someone like Thanos amirite?
tohslaugh
So then I guess Superman gets hurt every time he doesn't dodge bullets.
Of course. I forgot that sneak attacks were the only things that could beat a human wielding a Scythe ha-son
Lucifer is nowhere near as formidable as someone who can just reattach pieces of his flesh back, and rip someone's soul out like they were nothing doped
Basically what he said at the end is that PIS is what helps those who would not win otherwise (which is what Dante is in this fight).
Seeing as PIS is off in this forum, and that this isn't a story, yeah.
Also, Kurt Busiek really didn't decide the rules in this forum.
Kratos is very skilled but so is Dante. Dante mastered the scythe immediately as well and tore Death in half immediately after acquiring it.
Kratos isn't in another league like Thanos is. You seem to think these guys are uncuttable which is incorrect. Kratos and dante are in the same league and it boils down to whose attack strike true.
I never said as much but he's death so ripping him in half is obviously an impressive feat. This was right after he was stabbed in the back no less. When Kratos is weakened he barely can do anything when Zeus kills him in gow2.
Thanos no, Kratos yes.
No bullets don't phase him at all in the slightest whereas Zeus' lightning bolts phase Kratos. Try and stay with me.
He wasn't wielding a scythe at the time. The foes dante has taken on and bested are right up there with Kratos' enemies imo.
At the end he was killed so don't act like he's even close to anywhere nearlucy's badassery. He was losing to Atlas which you yourself pointed out and was bested by Kratos whereas he laughed off a scythe in his chest and disintegrated it like it was nothing.
It's an example of a person like yourself while applying one strength feat to his base level strength and act as if Kratos can headbutt houses into smithereens. You have to use common sense you're the rabid fan that he describes we have to look at how these guys are written not over analyze strength feats like they apply to these characters overall.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because all these fights ever are comes down to who lands their attacks on who. None of these characters are unbeatable and we saw Zeus' father falling to Hades. Hades was losing to Atlas because he took him via cheapshot whereas Poseidon returned the favor. We just previously saw hades beating Cronos so I see no reason why he couldn't best Atlas if the circumstances were different.
a) I don't usually attack grammar errors here, but it's 'who lands their attacks on whom', not 'who lands their attacks on who'.
b) When have I ever said Kratos is unbeatable? I said Dante could not beat Kratos, and there's a difference between the two statements.
c) All we saw was a weakened Cronos being attacked by Hades, who then attempted to rip his soul out. It was never revealed whether it was Hades who had weakened him, or whether Cronos had been weakened before fighting Hades.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos is very skilled but so is Dante. Dante mastered the scythe immediately as well and tore Death in half immediately after acquiring it.
He had to weaken Death first, then he tore him in half. It wasn't immediate.
As for mastering the Scythe, sure, I'll give you that, but that could be due to the fact that he had previously used a weapon which handled quite like the Scythe did. Also, Kratos has mastered more weapons than Dante has.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos isn't in another league like Thanos is. You seem to think these guys are uncuttable which is incorrect. Kratos and dante are in the same league and it boils down to whose attack strike true.
Not really. You have yet to prove that Dante is in the same league as Kratos, or that he can cut him. As for him being uncuttable, sure, because I liek totally think Kratos liek cannot ever be cut, EVAR!
Though please, do go on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said as much but he's death so ripping him in half is obviously an impressive feat. This was right after he was stabbed in the back no less. When Kratos is weakened he barely can do anything when Zeus kills him in gow2.
Wait, he's Death? I was under the impression that he was this weird little pixie creature that had gone through a severe mid-life identity crisis, and thus had fixed upon its head a skull, while wearing Black Clothes.
So what if he's Death? Is the Death that appeared in DI somehow this powerful being that cannot be harmed except by very very very powerful people?
Zeus is the god of Thunder, and in the Myths, he can do shit that puts GoW Zeus to shame. They are different characters, which is why we use feats, not nonsensical bullshit, to base their abilities.
He's dead when Death comes for him. The knife does not hurt him while he's dead. Notice Dante removing the knife before he fights Death?
As for Kratos being weakened, that was long before he was killed by Zeus, unlike Dante, who died almost immediately from a knife stab. 😆
I guarantee you that Death would have shitstomped Dante, had Death been able to attack Dante while Dante was alive.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos no, Kratos yes.
Haha. Why not Thanos? I thought you said Dante has never been bested in a fight where he could see his opponent, and therefore could never be bested in a fight against an opponent he could see.
What, are your fanboyish tendencies for Thanos somehow denying your own logic?
PS: I'll let you in on a little secret. You are correct when you say that Thanos cannot be beaten by Dante. Kratos as well, cannot be beaten by Dante, at least until you prove he can.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No bullets don't phase him at all in the slightest whereas Zeus' lightning bolts phase Kratos. Try and stay with me.
Bullets don't scratch Superman, and neither did the Lightning bolt scratch Kratos, it just tossed him back due to the force of the blast. Gaia would be someone who got hurt, not Kratos.
Try to stay with me, instead of assuming that getting hurt includes being tossed back. If Kratos had had the wind knocked out of him, or he had been knocked unconscious, then I'd agree with you. He was perfectly fine right after the blast though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't wielding a scythe at the time. The foes dante has taken on and bested are right up there with Kratos' enemies imo.
Based on what exactly? Your opinion? Does not mean much here, and now, I'd wager it would mean nothing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
At the end he was killed so don't act like he's even close to anywhere near lucy's badassery. He was losing to Atlas which you yourself pointed out and was bested by Kratos whereas he laughed off a scythe in his chest and disintegrated it like it was nothing.
So? Lucifer lost to Dante which you yourself admitted. He was also imprisoned by someone before Dante arrived.
PS #1: You calling him Lucy only makes him seem like a little girl, as opposed to this badass mofo you think he is.
PS #2: Badassery has nothing to do with a character's power level. I think Demitri's more of a badass than Pyron, yet it's obvious that Demitri would lose to Pyron in his true form. As for Hades, nahh, I don't think he is badass. Rather, I think he's a supreme git.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's an example of a person like yourself while applying one strength feat to his base level strength and act as if Kratos can headbutt houses into smithereens. You have to use common sense you're the rabid fan that he describes we have to look at how these guys are written not over analyze strength feats like they apply to these characters overall.
LOLWAT? I act as if Kratos can headbutt houses? Sure, because as we know, you gotta headbutt houses to be considered strong. I wonder what else it was I said that Kratos could do. I know, I must have acted like Kratos could move continents with his hands...no wait, I must have acted like Kratos could fart and blow out the solar system.
Right, because when we decide fights on KMC, we resort to statements from characters and speculative bullshit from the likes of you, whilst completely dismissing onscreen feats.
So if I am a rabid fan, I wonder what that would make you. It definitely wouldn't be something positive as you make BT look smart when he trolls. Srsly.