Elektra Vs. Deathstroke(H2H)

Started by namorsubby18 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You mean the other guy with a Deathstroke sig? Shocker!!! 🙄

Let me know when Slade makes is own skin bullet proof, moves too fast to get caught on camera, and throws a blunt projectile with enough for to rip off someones hand... and propel it through their chest.

Luckily for me actions speak louder than words... which is something you don't seem to understand as your entire argument is predicated on unsubstantiated boasts and hyperbole.

Regardless of what was said Nightwing has better speed feats and has legitimately speed blitzed him, and that holds more water than an empty statement.

He didn't. He dodged a blast, caught a lasso and tripped Impulse. Woooooooooow. And - once again - that was Booster Gold, impersonating Deathstroke.

Okay, one more.lol

No, I don't mean him, actually 😐

Let me know when Elektra or Cap becomes formmidable enough to tango with any wonderwomen and last 2 seconds.lol

lol, none of the things I presented are hyperbole by definition. Again, learn something.

lol, regardless of whether NW said he was slower? Dude, you are totally out of it. And BTW, DS has freakin stomped NW several times, outmanuevering him with his superior speed etc. Do your research.

No feats in his 1st appearance? you have to be smoking. Oh, and I didn't know anyone sane was redefining the DCU and it's character's history based on Booster Gold and his adventures, but then again, they probably aren't.lol

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except Captain America has strength feats to back his statement, Slade has nothing. Fact > hyperbole. Learn some deductive reasoning?

lol, you keep saying hyperbole. It may be a word you like to use, but you should probably look up the definition before you go all crazy with it.

20 men > 10 men. You just qouted Cap's 10 men statement as evidence, and now you're disregarding it? Man, I just don't know what to say anymore. It's pathetic.

*sigh* Alright, I'm done for real this time.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Okay, one more.lol

No, I don't mean him, actually 😐

Let me know when Elektra or Cap becomes formmidable enough to tango with any wonderwomen and last 2 seconds.lol
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No wonder you keep losing debates here and badly.

You sight Cap's feats as high end in regards to putting down Hulk and KO'ing Namor.

And yet here you are celebrating Slade vs Wonderwomen as a average feat. Which doesn't hold a candle to Cap putting down Hulk and making him bleed or one shotting Namor.

Who called it an average feat? And I cite those atrocities as PIS, by the way. So would you if you weren't....you know.lol

Either way, you're off topic.

Also, are you so obsessed with Cap that you have to bring him into every thread?

Back to topic:

Slade FTW😎

Originally posted by namorsubby
Who called it an average feat? And I cite those atrocities as PIS, by the way. So would you if you weren't....you know.lol

Either way, you're off topic.

Also, are you so obsessed with Cap that you have to bring him into every thread?

Back to topic:

Slade FTW😎

In your quote you have Cap mentioned in it. So it is your sidetrack comment I am countering. Which I did since yours might as well be blah blah blah.

Trust me just type bla bla and your debate actually looks better then what you actually type.

Stop diverting my topic, buddy, or I'll........well, I'll tell or something.lol

Back to Topic:

Slade's stronger, faster, more durable, has an HF, and has beaten groups no-prep which consist of individuals who could easily take Elektra, among other things.

Slade FTW

I think Slade could take her.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Okay, one more.lol

No, I don't mean him, actually 😐

Let me know when Elektra or Cap becomes formmidable enough to tango with any wonderwomen and last 2 seconds.lol

lol, none of the things I presented are hyperbole by definition. Again, learn something.

lol, regardless of whether NW said he was slower? Dude, you are totally out of it. And BTW, DS has freakin stomped NW several times, outmanuevering him with his superior speed etc. Do your research.

No feats in his 1st appearance? you have to be smoking. Oh, and I didn't know anyone sane was redefining the DCU and it's character's history based on Booster Gold and his adventures, but then again, they probably aren't.lol

lol, you keep saying hyperbole. It may be a word you like to use, but you should probably look up the definition before you go all crazy with it.

20 men > 10 men. You just qouted Cap's 10 men statement as evidence, and now you're disregarding it? Man, I just don't know what to say anymore. It's pathetic.

*sigh* Alright, I'm done for real this time.

Since apparently this is an incredibly complicated concept that you just can't seem to grasp I will attempt to explain it too.

Slade is stated as being as strong as 20 men. This is hyperbole. Why? Because he is not as strong as 20 men. How do we know he isn't as strong as 20 men? Because he doesn't have a single strength feat that would confirm or begin to suggest that such a statement is accurate. Hence the statement an exaggeration. It is hyperbole.

Captain America is stated as being as strong as 10 men. This is not a hyperbole. Why? Because is easily as strong as 10. How do we know he is as strong as 10 me? Because he has feats that show him accomplishing feats of strength that would require that amount of strength, which confirms the accuracy of such a statement. Hence the statement is not an exaggeration. It is not hyperbole.

Originally posted by namorsubby
yeah, yeah, Srank. You're a chronic Slade Low-baller and you know it.

You should be banned from Slade threads for the kind of ridiculously inaccurate statements you've made in refrence to him. But whatever.

Inferior to Elektra in every way? retarded

Slower than Nightwing? NW has said the exact opposite, nuff said.lol

Lost to NW 3 times? lie

There was also a statement you made about the feats he performed in his 1st appearance. Understatement of the year, but hey, it's what I've come to expect.

You can claim that statements said as an actual truth concerning a character's ability is hyperbole, but you'll still be what you always are when it comes to Slade, wrong.
20 men > Cap and Elektra's strength. Get over it, and get some reading classes for those slade comics. 🙄

Back to topic:

Slade FTW.

Originally posted by namorsubby

lol, you keep saying hyperbole. It may be a word you like to use, but you should probably look up the definition before you go all crazy with it.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Stop diverting my topic, buddy, or I'll........well, I'll tell or something.lol

Back to Topic:

Slade's stronger, faster, more durable, has an HF, and has beaten groups no-prep which consist of individuals who could easily take Elektra, among other things.

Slade FTW

Hyperbole is a rhetorical device in which exaggeration is used to create a stronger emphasis. Slade is strong, but saying he is as strong as 20 men is hyperbole. Why? Because in actuality he isn't as strong as 20 men. It's pretty simple...

Everything else it that post has already been addressed several times, you just ingore what has been said and retype your own post.... why would I waste my time replying to it again?

Slade.

I think you have to be pretty strong to snap chains. Which Slade has done.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hyperbole is a rhetorical device in which exaggeration is used to create a stronger emphasis. Slade is strong, but saying he is as strong as 20 men [b]is hyperbole. Why? Because in actuality he isn't as strong as 20 men. It's pretty simple... [/B]

That's all good, except for that in none of the posted scans has any statement been intended exaggeration to create stronger emphasis. Claiming otherwise means you're incorrect, that's pretty simple.

In other words, Srank can't just determine something as inaccurate due to lack of feat support, and then call it hyperbole because of the "fact'. It wasn't exaggeration used to create stronger emphasis. It was stated as a fact. Therefore not hyperbole.

Duh.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Everything else it that post has already been addressed several times, you just ingore what has been said and retype your own post.... why would I waste my time replying to it again?

You're wasting your time because pretty much anything you say in reference to Slade is incorrect.

You said NW was faster, I literally proved you wrong with a scan that has NW saying the exact opposite, and you still deny.moronic

You said NW beat him 3 times, then 2. All incorrect.

You said Slade is inferior to Elektra in everyway, also incorrect.

You should stop replying, really.

Originally posted by namorsubby
That's all good, except for that in none of the posted scans has any statement been intended sarcasm to create stronger emphasis. Claiming otherwise means you're incorrect, that's pretty simple.

In other words, Srank can't just determine something as inaccurate due to lack of feat support, and then call it hyperbole because of the "fact'. It wasn't sarcasm used to create stronger emphasis. It was stated as a fact. Therefore not hyperbole.

Duh.

You know what else was presented as "fact"? Sentry stalemating Galactus and having the power of a Billion Exploding Suns. Hyperbole isn't sarcasm (or at least not always). Stating Slade is as strong as 20 men is a pretty overt case of exaggeration. There is nothing remotely subtle about it, he has never done anything in his entire history that would support such a statement. It's a hyperbole or a flat out lie from some misinformed... take your pick. Those are your options.

Actually I can determine if something isn't accurate due to lack of supporting feats. I'm the freaking Watcher. I know what Slade has done, and by that token I know what he can't do. His greatest strength feat in standard continuity is lifting a Gorilla above his head.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You know what else was presented as "fact"? Sentry stalemating Galactus and having the power of a Billion Exploding Suns. Hyperbole isn't sarcasm (or at least not always). Stating Slade is as strong as 20 men is a pretty overt case of exaggeration. There is nothing remotely subtle about it, he has never done anything in his entire history that would support such a statement. It's a hyperbole or a flat out lie from some misinformed... take your pick. Those are your options.

Actually I can determine if something isn't accurate due to lack of supporting feats. I'm the freaking Watcher. I know what Slade has done, and by that token I know what he can't do. His greatest strength feat in standard continuity is lifting a Gorilla above his head.

You wonder why I keep reposting the same feats? Because you still don't seem to understand.

You can't just call a statement hyperbole because you don't feel it is supported by feats. Why, Srank? Because if said statement isn't intended exaggeration/sarcasm used to create stronger emphasis, then it is not hyperbole.

lol, again Srank. Hyperbole is not even an option. It's not a flat out lie either. that's what you do when it comes to slade.

He doesn't display many lifting feats on panel. So what, he has striking feats, non-hyperbole statements, etc that put him even past the 20 men statement. Considering those, 20 men is more than reasonable.

Does it count according to "Srank the Watcher"? Who Cares. If you knew Slade so well, then you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements concerning him.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You're wasting your time because pretty much anything you say in reference to Slade is incorrect.

You said NW was faster, I literally proved you wrong with a scan that has NW saying the exact opposite, and you still deny.moronic

You said NW beat him 3 times, then 2. All incorrect.

You said Slade is inferior to Elektra in everyway, also incorrect.

You should stop replying, really.

Again: Actions speaks louder than words. Nightwing has better speed feats and has blitzed Slade. Words are hollow without something to back them and in this case the evidence contracts such a statement, so the statement must be disregarded. Oracle said Black Canary was more skilled than Batman... she was wrong too. You can't take a characters word at face value when their is evidence to the contrary.

Nightwing > Deathstroke: Nightwing 18, Nigthwing 117, Batman and Robin 12

He has a better healing factor... but other than that.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You wonder why I keep reposting the same feats? Because you still don't seem to understand.

You can't just call a statement hyperbole because you don't feel it is supported by feats. Why, Srank? Because if said statement isn't intended exaggeration/sarcasm used to create stronger emphasis, then it is not hyperbole.

lol, again Srank. Hyperbole is not even an option. It's not a flat out lie either. that's what you do when it comes to slade.

He doesn't display many lifting feats on panel. So what, he has striking feats, non-hyperbole statements, etc that put him even past the 20 men statement. Considering those, 20 men is more than reasonable.

Does it count according to "Srank the Watcher"? Who Cares. If you knew Slade so well, then you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements concerning him.

Except for that statement is only not intended as exaggeration in your sad deluded mind. You see a clear example of hyperbole when some random dude says "[Slade] is supposed to be as strong as 20 men," and your tighty whities start to get tight and you lose all blood flow to your brain.

And its already been explained to you that punching feats aren't accurate examples of strength... and even if they were that just another area where Captain America is superior.

Why do you even bother?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Again: Actions speaks louder than words. Nightwing has better speed feats and has blitzed Slade. Words are hollow without something to back them and in this case the evidence contracts such a statement, so the statement must be disregarded. Oracle said Black Canary was more skilled than Batman... she was wrong too. You can't take a characters word at face value when their is evidence to the contrary.

Nightwing > Deathstroke: Nightwing 18, Nigthwing 117, Batman and Robin 12

He has a better healing factor... but other than that.

Are you not considering the 4 or 5 instances that Slade has straight up owned NW without any effort? In other words, are you not considering the majority of their fights where Slade was displayed as obviously superior, not only in speed, but you name it? lol, dude, IDK what to do with you.

lol, Slade was using damain in that fight. Did Damien all of a sudden acquire his speed/strength etc because he was being controlled?

The fight were Ravager was present was nothing less the inconclusive. NW dodged a lot, which is still a low showing for Slade, but he did not win. Trying to pass instances like these off as wins for NW only further solidifies what I've been saying all along.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except for that statement is only not intended as exaggeration in your sad deluded mind. You see a clear example of hyperbole when some random dude says "[Slade] is supposed to be as strong as 20 men," and your tighty whities start to get tight and you lose all blood flow to your brain.

And its already been explained to you that punching feats aren't accurate examples of strength... and even if they were that just another area where Captain America is superior.

Why do you even bother?

lol, so you're saying the guy was intentionally using sarcasm/exaggeration in that instance? lol, no, he wasn't. You're seriously grasping, but you don't have a leg to stand on.

Striking feats are not accurate according to who, Srank the watcher? lol, so what. Also, Cap isn't superior, unless you wanna count onslaught. lol, knowing you, you probably do.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Are you not considering the 4 or 5 instances that Slade has straight up owned NW without any effort? In other words, are you not considering the majority of their fights where Slade was displayed as obviously superior, not only in speed, but you name it? lol, dude, IDK what to do with you.

lol, Slade was using damain in that fight. Did Damien all of a sudden acquire his speed/strength etc because he was being controlled?

The fight were Ravager was present was nothing less the inconclusive. NW dodged a lot, which is still a low showing for Slade, but he did not win. Trying to pass instances like these off as wins for NW only further solidifies what I've been saying all along.

Slade is strong enough that hitting Nightwing once pretty much tips the fight in his favour permanently, it has nothing to do with his speed or his skill. That doesn't change the fact that if Nightwing gets the opener on Slade he can beat on him uninterpreted for a short period of time until his stamina runs out.

He was controlling Damien sure but had the element of surprise and clocked Dick with a shovel twice out of the gate, and he still couldn't win.

What are you talking about? Nightwing walked all over Slade in that instance. Slade couldn't hardly lay a finger on him, he was pulling out all sorts of weaponry and Dick just knocked them all aside. Slade had to resort to using a grenade. That's pretty conclusive...

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, so you're saying the guy was intentionally using sarcasm/exaggeration in that instance? lol, no, he wasn't. You're seriously grasping, but you don't have a leg to stand on.

Striking feats are not accurate according to who, Srank the watcher? lol, so what. Also, Cap isn't superior, unless you wanna count onslaught. lol, knowing you, you probably do.

He was intentionally using exaggeration. Yes.

According to pretty much everyone? Captain America has damaged Hulk, Rhino, Namor, Thor and yes Onslaught with his punches, it's just another contest Slade loses to Cap.