Originally posted by jinzin
own the comic, read it plenty.... I'm not saying he was winning a straight fight but his blows certainly looked to be effecting Thor. 😬
1. What the hell was up with Cap in this scan? Seemed a little different......greener.
2. Where in that scan was Cap's "blows" displayed affecting Thor. I saw Thor grap an attempted blow and hold the shield easily. That's about it.
Originally posted by namorsubby
1. What the hell was up with Cap in this scan? Seemed a little different......greener.2. Where in that scan was Cap's "blows" displayed affecting Thor. I saw Thor grap an attempted blow and hold the shield easily. That's about it.
*facepalm*
Dude... that's not the reigning, it's an entirely different comic........ 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
own the comic, read it plenty.... I'm not saying he was winning a straight fight but his blows certainly looked to be effecting Thor. 😬
Like I said re-read it. It was made pretty clear that Thor allowed himself to be knocked around to the extent that he was by the attacks because his son was in danger.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/ThorkillsCaptainAmerica1.jpg
Your stance is destroyed even further when we take into account that Captain America's attacks did not damage an even weaker Thor who had only recently gained actual access to the Odin Force.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DentsCapAmericaShield1.jpg
Originally posted by King Castle
anyone have the scan of the dude satin how great cap was stronger then thor and faster then QS and gave hulk a wedgie?
Slade's statements are to be considered valid due to his long history of slugging it out with the Titan's big hitters. A lot of their fights have seemed even to occur off-panel.
Donna Troy has stated herself that Slade used to routinely defeat them all(meaning the titans).
Slade has stated that he used to beat the Titans "every third week", obviously hyperbole, but you get the point. He beat them alot. Meaning he's dealt with Donna, Starfire, etc many, many times. Meaning 20 men is generous.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir160.jpg
That scan is from an Avengers issue where the Presence had corrupted the other Avengers -besides Thor and his teammate because they were immortal- and had them attack their comrades.
The corrupted Avengers were significantly amped by the way.
Originally posted by namorsubbybeating them doesnt equate to DS strength lvl.. how many heroes have beaten or taken on a team with nothing but olympic or peak human strength?
Slade's statements are to be considered valid due to his long history of slugging it out with the Titan's big hitters. A lot of their fights have seemed even to occur off-panel.Donna Troy has stated herself that Slade used to routinely defeat them all(meaning the titans).
Slade has stated that he used to beat the Titans "every third week", obviously hyperbole, but you get the point. He beat them alot. Meaning he's dealt with Donna, Starfire, etc many, many times. Meaning 20 men is generous.
would you say they are 20x stronger b/c they can send thor, rogue, M or hulk through a wall and stagger them from time to time even ko'ing them even it is a repeatable feat?
Originally posted by King Castle
beating them does equate to DS strength lvl.. how many heroes have beaten or taken on a team with nothing but olympic or peak human strength?would you say they are 20x stronger b/c they can send thor, rogue, M or hulk through a wall and stagger them from time to time even ko'ing them even it is a repeatable feat?
And fighting them mano e meno, dealing damage doesn't?
Not if that's no where near a normal thing for them, or concurrent with their history
Originally posted by King Castle
its normal for cap and wolverine they do it on the regular... even elektra has pretty uber strength feats if we are allowed your logic then we have to apply it to everyone not just slade.
From day one to now? I don't think so.
Cap was busy fighting nazis for a bit, and still, it's not like he's KOing anyone near who's you've mentioned even 1/4th of the time.
IDK about Logan, but he's meta anyway.
Elektra has certainly got an upgrade from the beginning to now.
The thing poeple seem to forget about Slade is the showings with peak humans in which he doesn't job, and casually stomps them, being shown easily superior in strength,speed, etc.In Many of these showings Slade purposely takes hits, eiither to prove that they can't hurt him, or to get a good position, etc. He's done it to Nightwing time and again, Bats too, Roy Harper, Black canary and huntress simultaneously, etc. He's obviously meta and above peak human when it comes to strength. Not only that, but durability, speed, etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said re-read it. It was made pretty clear that Thor allowed himself to be knocked around to the extent that he was by the attacks because his son was in danger.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/ThorkillsCaptainAmerica1.jpg
Your stance is destroyed even further when we take into account that Captain America's attacks did not damage an even weaker Thor who had only recently gained actual access to the Odin Force.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DentsCapAmericaShield1.jpg
I don't see Thor stating that ANYWHERE... that's your conjecture.
And another instance of Cap not doing damage to Thor with blows doesn't illiviate the time that he did.. which is all my "stance" was about.. That he HAS done it.
Originally posted by Deadlinelol, I've read a million way old school Cap appearances. I'm into the golden age, and he appeared in the GA torch series alot.
Again thats you're ignorance. Cap fought alot of superhuman in WWII.
Pretty much all of the nazi superhumans were rectonned into existence far after the real golden age of comics. If you actually read them, you'd know that.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't see Thor stating that ANYWHERE... that's your conjecture.And another instance of Cap not doing damage to Thor with blows doesn't illiviate the time that he did.. which is all my "stance" was about.. That he HAS done it.
facepalm
It's not conjecture. It's common sense. Captain America's attacks did absolutely nothing to Thor besides knock him around a bit. The only reason that even happened was because Balder had a sword to his sons throat. The moment he was safe Thor easily disposed of Cap.
Captain America did not damage Thor with his attacks. It's pretty damn clear what the situation was. Jurgens just had Thor beat both the Hulk and the Thing in combat. Jurgens Thor had ridiculous damage soak and durability. Captain America hurting him with his attacks wouldn't even make sense taking that into account.
Ignore the second scan.
Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, I've read a million way old school Cap appearances. I'm into the golden age, and he appeared in the GA torch series alot.Pretty much all of the nazi superhumans were rectonned into existence far after the real golden age of comics. If you actually read them, you'd know that.
Great so in other words your saying im right. facepalm
Originally posted by Deadline
Great so in other words your saying im right. facepalmI also suspect your lying about the retcon anyway.
http://www.comicvine.com/invaders/65-25865/the-invaders/49-2765/?
Superhumans galore.
lol, I've read that entire series. Many of the feats for my Torch thread come from it.
Those adventures were rectonned into the Golden age in the Bronze age of comics(70's). In other words, check the dates, genius.But yeah, I'm just a liar. lol
