Elektra Vs. Deathstroke(H2H)

Started by Deadline18 pages

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, you are so bright. How you caught yourself, backtracked, and thought of a new approach👆

I'm speaking chronologically, and you're not right. About as far from it as you can be.

Yeah I backtracked so what? So that means I was wrong about Cap fighting alot of superhumans in WWII?

Yeah, actually.

Back in the 40's, around WW2, Cap wasn't fighting too many superhumans in comics. In the 70's, sure, why not.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
Yeah, actually.

Back in the 40's, around WW2, Cap wasn't fighting too many superhumans in comics. In the 70's, sure, why not.lol

If its been retconned it means that its part of the history now. So if he fought alot of superhumans in the 70s that becomes part of WW2 history. So yes he has fought alot of superhumans.

Originally posted by Deadline
If its been retconned it means that its part of the history now. So if he fought alot of superhumans in the 70s that becomes part of WW2 history. So yes he has fought alot of superhumans.
He was fighting plenty soldiers in that series as well.

still, they haven't rectonned out all he's done back then simply because they rectonned in a few superhumans. Therefore the vast majority still consists of non-superhuman threats. In other words, one series can't over cloud his entire real golden age which consists of all his early work. I shouldn't even have to be explaining this.

Originally posted by namorsubby
He was fighting plenty soldiers in that series as well.

still, they haven't rectonned out all he's done back then simply because they rectonned in a few superhumans. Therefore the vast majority still consists of non-superhuman threats. In other words, one series can't over cloud his entire [b]real golden age which consists of all his early work. I shouldn't even have to be explaining this. [/B]

Again your a bit slow. The retcon is offical and just as real as the Golden age. In fact its agruably more real because marvel didn't even exist then (if you mean 40s and 50s). It doesn't even matter if the vast majority were nazis there was still ALOT of superhumans and Batman wasn't even born then.

No you don't need to explain shit. Just because there were more nazis doesn't contradict the fact there was still alot of superhumans. I don't need to explain this.

Oh I might be able to check on the golden age stories as well.

Originally posted by Deadline
Again your a bit slow. The retcon is offical and just as real as the Golden age. In fact its agruably more real because marvel didn't even exist then (if you mean 40s and 50s). It doesn't even matter if the vast majority were nazis there was still ALOT of superhumans and Batman wasn't even born then.

No you don't need to explain shit. Just because there were more nazis doesn't contradict the fact there was still alot of superhumans. I don't need to explain this.

Oh I might be able to check on the golden age stories as well.

Batman comics outdate Cap's, but whatever.

Cap's real early years consists of pretty much all non-superhuman threats, and this is all I was saying with my initial statement, but whatever.

Nazis outweighed superhumans a million to one, even with the recton, but whatever.

And no, I need not explain anything to you. You figure it out for yourself, very slowly with my help.lol

Are we done?

I've been reading some of this thread and I can't seem to understand how these claims of Dick being faster than Slade, or that Slade isn't stronger, faster nor more durable than Elektra, are being made. I'm like, Huh??? I mean damn the man was using his quickness to evade Kal El for some time. I know Superman wasn't using his speed to its fullest ability. But Kal El still had trouble keeping track of him. Which says a lot about Slade's own ability, considering Superman's power set. And Slade has beaten Nightwing with little effort more than once. Nightwing has even offered Slade money so that he wouldn't kill a friend of his, instead of just stopping him with force. I mean, if Nightwing beat Slade three times. Why pay him off, when you can just kick his ass? Doesn't make much sense to me. As for Elektra. I feel that Slade is physically superior to her. The man is a tactical master, who can use 90% of his brain's capabilities to process information at the drop of a dime. She would need her mind abilities to give her more of a chance against Deathstroke. I see Slade coming out the winner more times than not imo.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I mean damn the man was using his quickness to evade Kal El for some time. I know Superman wasn't using his speed to its fullest ability. But Kal El still had trouble keeping track of him. Which says a lot about Slade's own ability, considering Superman's power set.

there goes anorther one..

Ok MarvelKnight, what does the above feat imply? What does batmans feat of sneaking up on Superman imply? The guy and hear flys boning in another solar system, but batman snuck up on him 🙄. Supes has a CIS field the size of jupiter when dealing with significantly weaker characters. The weaker the character, thew bigger the CISfield - the more outrageous the feat. Thats how it works. That superman evading feat is ridiculous, reflexes/thought-to-action time supes is the fastest on DC earth (barring the flashes). Him evading supes is laughable, he wouldn't be taking hits from street level threats if this was his operating speed.

Eh. Batman has dodged a blow from a mind controlled Superman and I believe his disappeared on Clark without Clark being able to find him or something similar. There's also the Shadowdragon fight.

Superman has his low showings too.

But Slade has powers and Batman doesn't. It's more plausible for Slade to do those things than Batman.

And getting back to Elektra, all of her best showings are against fodder troops, I take most of the things she does with a grain of salt. Slade goes up against some pretty heavy hitters on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Aries_04
all of her best showings are against fodder troops, I take most of the things she does with a grain of salt. Slade goes up against some pretty heavy hitters on a regular basis.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh. Batman has dodged a blow from a mind controlled Superman and I believe his disappeared on Clark without Clark being able to find him or something similar. There's also the Shadowdragon fight.

Superman has his low showings too.

dont forget bats ninja vanished on flash..

Here is Slade saying his reflexes are superhuman btw.

notice how he emphasizes on the nightwing name and makes a clear distinction

Originally posted by King Castle
notice how he emphasizes on the nightwing name and makes a clear distinction

No he said his reflexes were superhuman period.

What were they thinking when they had Slade brag "I beat Nightwing!" as if its the most impressive things he's accomplished? Beating Nightwing rarely takes him more than one page...

Yea. "I'm enhanced. I'm better than Nightwing, and you're not even that good" is how I took it.

Yeah but he still blatantly used the word superhuman. He seems to be implying thats how he beat NW by having superhuman reflexes.

However if we look at his whole career im not sure if we could take the statement literially. I do think if he was superhuman it would only be barely.

Originally posted by Deadline
I do think if he was superhuman it would only be barely.

According to what, exactly?

Originally posted by Deadline

However if we look at his whole career im not sure if we could take the statement literially.

He's been superhuman his whole career, so I think it probably should be taken literally, but that's just me.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Batman comics outdate Cap's, but whatever.

No you don't get it. My point is that Cap has more experience. Fat Cobra is about 100 years old the fact that Batman comics have been around for much longer than Fat Cobra changes nothing.

Originally posted by namorsubby

Cap's real early years consists of pretty much all non-superhuman threats, and this is all I was saying with my initial statement, but whatever.

Nazis outweighed superhumans a million to one, even with the recton, but whatever.

And no, I need not explain anything to you. You figure it out for yourself, very slowly with my help.lol

No you still don't get it. If Cap thought a million Nazis and 100 superhumans thats still alot of superhumans even if they are a lot less. Nazis are hghly trained by the way and much tougher than thugs.

Originally posted by namorsubby

Are we done?

I hope so but I doubt it.

Originally posted by namorsubby
According to what, exactly?

He's been superhuman his whole career, so I think it probably should be taken literally, but that's just me.

The problem is there are alot of non-superhumans who have similar feats to DS.