Originally posted by SamZED
Wait, so Israeli troops murder a bunch of innocent people and they're actually gonna get away with that?
Dude, no way!!!msn-oh
They´ve gotten away with a lot more, this is drop in the ocean.
I think some Israeli Governmen officials are taking this "we are the chosen people we can do what the friggin hell we want" thing a bit too far.
After all if those Somalian Pirates were to do a similair thing in international waters, there´d be a a few warships steaming on in that direction to sort them out.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
They´ve gotten away with a lot more, this is drop in the ocean.I think some Israeli Governmen officials are taking this "we are the chosen people we can do what the friggin hell we want" thing a bit too far.
After all if those Somalian Pirates were to do a similair thing in international waters, there´d be a a few warships steaming on in that direction to sort them out.
1) Turkey says their navy will be escorting any further aid ships from their country. So yes, there could well be warships headed in that direction at some point.
2) I'm pretty sure Somali pirates don't have a blockade established, which makes Israel's actions legal. You can argue if they right/authority to establish a blockade of Gaza (probably not) but that's a different issue.
I was wondering if maybe this was actually a cunning plan by some Arab group. After all it was clear that Israel was going to try to stop the Flotilla.
This would hardly be the first time Israel's enemies tried to set Israel up to make it look like the bad guy. And unfortunately for Israel, this was not the first time -- nor will it likely be the last -- that Israel failed to implement its plans as nonviolently as hoped.
And of course, there's the ol' double-standard Israel is always held to. Can you imagine if Israel had just torpedoed the ship ala N. Korea?
Israel has no real need of material aide, and they already let food aide through their blockade, so I can't see that happening to any major degree, especially now that they are under such intense international scrutiny
though, it would be hilarious if they gave it to the settlers
EDIT: though, lets not forget, ALL of it would have gotten through if the activists hadn't thought it was a good idea to provoke the Israeli military
Originally posted by Liberator
No not burn it maybe "confiscate" some of the material (take it for themselves).All I know is the 'activists' brought in a lot of medical supplies, timber for rebuilding homes, and a few other goods. I just wish there were more reliable figures.
No...What you're really hoping for is figures that will make Israel look like the demon you so obviously want them to be. Despite the fact that in this case they were clearly attacked while doing a mission that many nations do with ships coming into their waters and do without incident.
I've no doubt that if figures came to light showing that every single bit of the aid made its way to Gaza then you'd simply reply with "I don't believe it...Israel is the devil".
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
My thoughts exactly. Remember that line in Jurassic Park by Dr. Grant: "You can't suppress 65 million years of gut-instinct"? Well, the UN tries to do the same with ancient feuds that are too strong for some "resolution" passed by them to dictate.
I think the UN hopes that in the next 65 million years we'll suppress that instinct.
Originally posted by SamZED
Dude, no way!!!msn-oh
Except they do it on a large scale at least...you know...once a year or so.a
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The fact they they attacked the soldiers first makes they a lot less innocent. Obviously the Israeli soldiers should have killed anyone but the facts shift things considerably away from Israel as some sort of murderous evil empire.
I bet it was the deck chairs. The new WMDs 🙁
Though frankly if a soldier dropped onto my boat in international waters, I'd throw a deck chair at him too.
Originally posted by Ordo
...Though frankly if a soldier dropped onto my boat in international waters, I'd throw a deck chair at him too.
And the soldiers would shoot you with their M16s, oh wait, they didn't have M16s. Ok, let me revise that statement... And the soldiers would shoot you with their paint ball guns.
Just saw some more footage on the news, the soldiers ab sailed down with friggin "paintball guns" and got a battering by the people on the boat with Iron bars and chairs, and throwing the soldiers of the ship. Pretty sickening scenes really not wonder they opened fire, probably to help their comrades.
Why send them in with paintball guns, it´s not as if these harmless weapons wouldn´t be noticed.
It looks like the Israeli commando´s weren´t trained properly for a sea assault. You don´t ab-sail onto a ship full of angry people for fooks sake. A tactical quiet assault using large ladders is the normal way of attacking vesels.
All in all a very odd event.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Seems like the authorities would have some non lethal weaponry at hand.
Paint ball guns would be non lethal weaponry; especially against "peace activists". These peace activists need to learn more about peaceful protests. They didn’t look like peace activists to me. They looked like a group of thugs.