Originally posted by King KandyThis was after he broke out of creation, to stand and witness the events the events that proceeded it. A time before time existed. Funny that those heros were providing him enough energy to essentially replace God as the hand that made all creation, making all creation part of his Anti-Matter realm by destroying all that ever was before it even existed which was what he was trying to do there.
IG wins, as stated mere heroes could fight AM, and he was apparently weak enough that absorbing their power made a huge difference. Meanwhile the only time superheroes came close to Thanos was when he purposefully wanted them to be able too.
Also, you'd have to be ignoring the fact the heros were laying into him with absolutely everything they had. The initial attack alone would have decimated a solar system, and he didn't even budge, flinch, or give a damn. And he was letting them continue to attack for several panels before humbling all of them at once with one move.
He then tells us that this is him AFTER EXPENDING -ALL- OF HIS OWN ENERGY and that he waited for the heros to come so he could use theirs to finish the task!
Anti-Monitor was unapproachable and unbeatable until Spectre stepped onto the battlefield.
And the two unleashed so much sheer energy that the multiverse being born[and already later existed in the timeline - Krona's window, etc] and the time before time and reality even existed shattered. Literally the panels of the comic falling apart into a pale whiteness. Spectre saw universes that would never be, shapes colors and concepts undreamt of even by his omnipotent master, who thoughts created all that existed.
So yeah, I guess if we ignore all that, you could be on to something. Because it's not until the issues that follow that moment were he even gets challenged by anyone less than God's wrath.
Originally posted by cdtm
Come to think of it, it's odd that Quanchi pushed so hard for the current version of the Anti Life Equation in that Orion with ALE vs Odin thread, yet he's assuming Thanos is using the complete, fully working Infinity Gauntlet despite the fact that the current versions of the gems are forbidden by Eternity from working in unison.
Originally posted by TheTyrantNo they aren't... 😕
Thanos wins. 616 abstracts are more than universal.
I'd say IG wins this.By how I read it AM was extremely powerful.Powerful enough to beat spectre.However after he did this it seemed his power was very taxed.And thats why he was weakened enough to be beat by the heroes.Thanos on the other hand beat the best the universe could throw at him and it showed nothing that would say he wasn't still at full power.It seems that the AM would need a constant supply of energy(such as the sun the the heroes destroyed so they could kill him)while thanos needs only the gauntlet.I just believe thanos has more impressive feats here and he's not going to weaken.AM would need to be near LT level to win here and I don't believe he is that.
Originally posted by cdtmMagus wasn't just defeated by mere heroes he was defeated by Infinity and Eternity as well and he didn't even have the whole ig which was the only reason he went down anyways. Context.
Funny how mere heroes are what ended up defeating Magus and Nebula when they had the IG.As for how he could win: By overpowering him?
Also, it's laughable that your biggest argument against AM is that heroes could fight him, than claim Galactus could defeat him who's made a career of being defeated by mere heroes.
Also, the heroes that fought Thanos could be defeated by a mere Cosmic Cube, which is something Galactus is well above, despite the fact that Big G often loses to... heroes.
Nebula didn't have enough time with the ig and Thanos would have never been caught like she was. This is Thanos with the ig the guy who wiped his asss with the heroes after depowering himself to give them a sporting chance. Thanos wipes his ass with the Am.
Originally posted by cdtmIn a thread here when you have the whole ig it works in unison. Try and use some common sense.
Come to think of it, it's odd that Quanchi pushed so hard for the current version of the Anti Life Equation in that Orion with ALE vs Odin thread, yet he's assuming Thanos is using the complete, fully working Infinity Gauntlet despite the fact that the current versions of the gems are forbidden by Eternity from working in unison.
The Infinity Gems working in unison best feat is defeating the 616 abstracts and merging two universes. The AM had the power of everything. The Gems would not beat the AM. They would get absorbed since they are essentially just the power of the Infinity being who is just the creator of the 616. Not even the Omnipotent being of Marvel. AM absorbed the power of artifacts that are as powerful as the IG into himself as well. We are forgetting he was getting the power of everything inside those universes. Like, The Oan Battery. Which itself is a multiversal wrecker. And the power of the Anti-life equation. The Worlogog. Etc. Those were all part of his power.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
The Infinity Gems working in unison best feat is defeating the 616 abstracts and merging two universes. The AM had the power of everything. The Gems would not beat the AM. They would get absorbed since they are essentially just the power of the Infinity being who is just the creator of the 616. Not even the Omnipotent being of Marvel. AM absorbed the power of artifacts that are as powerful as the IG into himself as well. We are forgetting he was getting the power of everything inside those universes. Like, The Oan Battery. Which itself is a multiversal wrecker. And the power of the Anti-life equation. The Worlogog. Etc. Those were all part of his power.
Originally posted by lightyeargeeThe Infinity Gems working in unison best feat
is defeating the 616 abstracts and merging two universes.
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"
(Infinity is part of this, but sometimes she's depicted, sometimes not, many times Eternity is both)
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This is no surprise, when Dr Strange met 616 Eternity back in the 70's this is what he said:
Eternity is Time incarnated ...
When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,
Past Present and Future"
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This is why 616 Eternity dies .. the Omniverse dies:
Uatu and the Watchers realized
that nanoseconds after the 616 Reality dies,
the Omniverse will die:
"We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately following the initial
nanoseconds of This Universe.
And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "
..................................................................................
Dr Stange is confused with the Uatu's explanation,
so Uatu tells him in plain engilsh the fact concerning the significance
of the 616 Reality:
"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.
Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.
Everything there is, will End.
Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been"
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..................................................................................
Is this a fluke? Not at all folks.
..................................................................................
Here we are in yet another title where the same thing is stated,
by Ute:
"Or THIS, the Prime Reality (616) will fall and with it ... ALL EXISTENCE"
Originally posted by lightyeargeethe power of the Infinity being who is just the creator of the 616.
Not even the Omnipotent being of Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
616 Eternity is the center of all reality,
it is from 616 Eternity how Universes are born/die,
in fact, 616 Eternity has the power to re-create [b]all UniverseS:"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"(Infinity is part of this, but sometimes she's depicted, sometimes not, many times Eternity is both)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is no surprise, when Dr Strange met 616 Eternity back in the 70's this is what he said:
Eternity is Time incarnated ...
When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,
Past Present and Future"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is why 616 Eternity dies .. the Omniverse dies:
Uatu and the Watchers realized
that nanoseconds after the 616 Reality dies,
the Omniverse will die:"We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately following the initial
nanoseconds of This Universe.And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "..................................................................................
Dr Stange is confused with the Uatu's explanation,
so Uatu tells him in plain engilsh the fact concerning the significance
of the 616 Reality:"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.
Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.
Everything there is, will End.
Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been"
..................................................................................
..................................................................................
Is this a fluke? Not at all folks.
..................................................................................
Here we are in yet another title where the same thing is stated,
by Ute:"Or THIS, the Prime Reality (616) will fall and with it ... ALL EXISTENCE"
False! [/B]
/thread
Originally posted by JuntaiNice post. 👆
This was after he broke out of creation, to stand and witness the events the events that proceeded it. A time before time existed. Funny that those heros were providing him enough energy to essentially replace God as the hand that made all creation, making all creation part of his Anti-Matter realm by destroying all that ever was before it even existed which was what he was trying to do there.Also, you'd have to be ignoring the fact the heros were laying into him with absolutely everything they had. The initial attack alone would have decimated a solar system, and he didn't even budge, flinch, or give a damn. And he was letting them continue to attack for several panels before humbling all of them at once with one move.
He then tells us that this is him AFTER EXPENDING -ALL- OF HIS OWN ENERGY and that he waited for the heros to come so he could use theirs to finish the task!
Anti-Monitor was unapproachable and unbeatable until [b]Spectre
stepped onto the battlefield.And the two unleashed so much sheer energy that the multiverse being born[and already later existed in the timeline - Krona's window, etc] and the time before time and reality even existed shattered. Literally the panels of the comic falling apart into a pale whiteness. Spectre saw universes that would never be, shapes colors and concepts undreamt of even by his omnipotent master, who thoughts created all that existed.
So yeah, I guess if we ignore all that, you could be on to something. Because it's not until the issues that follow that moment were he even gets challenged by anyone less than God's wrath. [/B]
