Mega Man X v.s. Dante

Started by Sin_Volvagia8 pages
Originally posted by CosmicComet
-Lol get that shit outta here. It couldn't even cut through the Rebellion sword, which has no special abilities whatsoever.

It shoots energy waves, projected aura that killed an acidic demon, cuts through metal, and resisted impacts from powerful demons. It and Yamato aren't Sparda's mementos for nothing. They're more powerful than human swords.


-Example of this temperature usage. Not convinced of its effectiveness being on par with actual absolute zero on claim alone.

IIRC, it was a description for one of the moves. I think it was Ice Age (the barrier).


-Less than a nuclear explosion by far.

X has been damaged by far less. Back in X1, he was paralyzed by Vile in both fights with that large armor.


-Not as hot as a nuclear explosion.

Hellfire is hotter than an nuclear explosion especially if that hellfire can damage can damage the Frost, who are colder than absolute zero and can resist normal fire without damage.


-'high-level demons'. Don't title wank. They have nothing to demonstrate as impressive durability wise.

If those shots can make a large demon like Echidna explode in a single shot, you bet your sweet ass that it'll hurt X.


-Pandora. That useless shit. Nuclear explosion > that.

Useless shit? You mean that same weapon with 666 weapon forms including a buzzsaw, minigun, explosive crossbow, rocket launcher, laser cannon, missile platform, and a flash that destroys all enemies without leaving any remains behind? Don't make me laugh.


-Nuclear explosion > Sparda.

So what? Just because Dante isn't packing nukes in his arsenal doesn't make him less dangerous. I highly doubt every enemy he faced shot at him with nuclear weapons. Did Chill Penguin have nukes? How about Flame Stag? Crystal Snail? Clone Zero? Magma Dragoon? Vile? Lumine? X has been paralyzed with an electrical attack.

Stop pulling durability out of your ass.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
It shoots energy waves, projected aura that killed an acidic demon, cuts through metal, and resisted impacts from powerful demons. It and Yamato aren't Sparda's mementos for nothing. They're more powerful than human swords.

They are much more powerful than man-made swords. That's a given.
Yamato being said to have the ability to cut through everything is just hyperbole on the other hand.
Hell, Yamato didn't even cut through Lady's Kalina Ann. 😐

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
X has been damaged by far less. Back in X1, he was paralyzed by Vile in both fights with that large armor.

Apparently, X being hurt in X1 is somehow relevant to X post Command Mission who is vastly more powerful.
So I guess that DMC2 Dante can be pierced by the very same scythes that pierced DMC3 pre-awakened Dante 😐

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If those shots can make a large demon like Echidna explode in a single shot, you bet your sweet ass that it'll hurt X.

Except X has shown durability that is far superior to Echidna's.
A basic E&I shot won't be hurting X. Jackpot-style shot would though.

Originally posted by BloodRain
@DP- That's what I mean by the representation of what the player has to do.

Except that cannot be the case since there is no talking after they perform the rain-feat. It's completely non-canon as it cannot be placed in the time-line of the fight.

Especially since, in that game, Vile was built for war while X was not. He merely had the ability.

It also stands to reason that the robots on that series can hurt X because they're on that level. That's why they are a threat.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Especially since, in that game, Vile was built for war while X was not. He merely had the ability.

It also stands to reason that the robots on that series can hurt X because they're on that level. That's why they are a threat.

That doesn't answer why Dante wouldn't hurt X.

Nor does your point about MMX1 give any proof that Dante will be hurting X, as current X is vastly more powerful than MMX1 X.

That said, Dante has the tools to hurt current X IMO. Winning is another question.
Also, both are drunk anyway. >__>

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nor does your point about MMX1 give any proof that Dante will be hurting X, as current X is vastly more powerful than MMX1 X.

That said, Dante has the tools to hurt current X IMO. Winning is another question.
Also, both are drunk anyway. >__>

I never said Dante would beat X. My first post is a joke (though I was serious about X having a lame design in the Megaman Zero series).

Yamato being said to have the ability to cut through everything is just hyperbole on the other hand.
Hell, Yamato didn't even cut through Lady's Kalina Ann.

Dante as strong as he is does a fast Stinger at Nero's DB which completely tanks it without a scratch. Sanctus who I would be surprised if he would even get to average human strength could easily pierce his DB with a slow stab from Yamato.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
X has been damaged by far less. Back in X1, he was paralyzed by Vile in both fights with that large armor.
Ride Armors are pretty darn powerful. X was much less powerful in X1. His power grows over time.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Hellfire is hotter than an nuclear explosion especially if that hellfire can damage can damage the Frost, who are colder than absolute zero and can resist normal fire without damage.
How is Hellfire hotter than a nuclear explosion?

The Ifrit's hellfire is said to be hotter than a volcano. The hottest volcanoes can reach temperatures of 1,500 degrees C. By comparison, the Hiroshima nuclear bomb (one not particularly powerful by today's standards) created temperatures in the several million degrees C. 1,500+ >>> 1,000,000.

BTW, Fire Man from the original Mega Man series could produce 6,000 degree C temps. Heat Man could exceed 12,000 degrees C. Both are outdated technology by X's standards.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If those shots can make a large demon like Echidna explode in a single shot, you bet your sweet ass that it'll hurt X.
Does Echidna have quantitative durability feats?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
So what? Just because Dante isn't packing nukes in his arsenal doesn't make him less dangerous. I highly doubt every enemy he faced shot at him with nuclear weapons. Did Chill Penguin have nukes? How about Flame Stag? Crystal Snail? Clone Zero? Magma Dragoon? Vile? Lumine? X has been paralyzed with an electrical attack.
Dante has been injured by much weaker. The point is that his best durability feats are far out-scaled by X's best.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I never said Dante would beat X. My first post is a joke (though I was serious about X having a lame design in the Megaman Zero series).
You showed us a picture of Cyber Elf X. This is the spirit form X manifests in the Zero series. His physical body, on the other hand, looks similar to its appearance in the X series. And whether it looks lame to you or not, X in that form was able to shatter Omega's power. He was also able to knock a unit of reploids unconscious with a thought.

I believe he based hellfire's heat on the center of the Earth.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Dante as strong as he is does a fast Stinger at Nero's DB which completely tanks it without a scratch. Sanctus who I would be surprised if he would even get to average human strength could easily pierce his DB with a slow stab from Yamato.

And this somehow nullifies the fact that it never cut through Lady's KA when Vergil tried to? 😐

Lady was never a threat to him, and it 'can' cut anything not always going to. Like if he were to drop it wouldn't cut through the ground until the guard stops it. Its the relation of the power used and has already been proven to be able to cut tens of thousands of times easier then a normal blade.

The problem is that it has been stopped, by Lady no less, as well as Dante. Vergil was actually on 'top' of her at one point. Logic dictates that X will have no trouble stopping it from cutting him, if Dante and Lady could do so.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Dante as strong as he is does a fast Stinger at Nero's DB which completely tanks it without a scratch. Sanctus who I would be surprised if he would even get to average human strength could easily pierce his DB with a slow stab from Yamato.

Nero's arm is pretty strong and is even used as a shield.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
How is Hellfire hotter than a nuclear explosion?

Why wouldn't it be? It's usually known as the hottest element in fiction. I also hear that the Earth's core is hotter than the surface of the Earth.


Does Echidna have quantitative durability feats?

It did survive a fight with Nero, though it is never shown in the cutscene (because it's all done in the boss fight). Can't say that qualifies.


Dante has been injured by much weaker. The point is that his best durability feats are far out-scaled by X's best.

Much weaker than Chill Penguin? No.

And a few seconds before they both cut through a missile shot at them, like I said its all in how its used. More importantly it has shown to have 30kx cutting power a sharp sword. Cutting the fabric of space lethal.

The point is that his best durability feats are far out-scaled by X's best.

He doesn't need to have durability over him, X will be taking so much more hits then Dante.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And a few seconds before they both cut through a missile shot at them, like I said its all in how its used. More importantly it has shown to have 30kx cutting power a sharp sword. Cutting the fabric of space lethal.

He doesn't need to have durability over him, X will be taking so much more hits then Dante.

Or that Yamato being able to cut through anything is just hyperbole.
It's extremely sharp, no doubt, but if Dante can stop it, X can do so as well.

Cutting the Hell Gate, the fabric of space and Nero's Devil Bringer shows its cutting power in the right hands is able to cut Megaman.

An old man had more cutting power with it then Dante had with his normal sword. Dante's strength and speed behind a 30,000+x sharper then Rebellion blade..

Which is why Vergil was able to cut through Rebellion amirite?
After all, he too can cut the fabric of space.

Rain
and it 'can' cut anything not always going to. Like if he were to drop it wouldn't cut through the ground until the guard stops it.
Me again
cut through a missile shot at them, like I said its all in how its used.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Logic dictates that X will have no trouble stopping it from cutting him, if Dante could do so.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
if Dante can stop it, X can do so as well.

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Well played..

If its used like a normal sword it will have very high cutting strength. But if its power is used it can go to what I mentioned eg dimensional slashes.