Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Why wouldn't it be? It's usually known as the hottest element in fiction. I also hear that the Earth's core is hotter than the surface of the Earth.
This isn't the hellfire of other fiction. This is Devil May Cry Hellfire, which seems to have an actual statement on its heat. Near that of a volcano is the best it's got.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Why wouldn't it be? It's usually known as the hottest element in fiction. I also hear that the Earth's core is hotter than the surface of the Earth.
Hopefully that is a typo (and you meant surface of the Sun), as it's pretty obvious that the Earth's core is much hotter than the Earth's Surface.
That said, the Inner Core of the Earth is believed to have a temperature roughly as hot as the Sun's Surface, which is approximately 5500 degrees Celsius. That is nowhere near the temperature that X has tanked.
That said, Ifrit's Hellfire is said to be hotter than the temperature of a Volcano. I personally don't know the temperature of a Volcano, but I do know that it isn't even in the same ball-park as 5500 degrees Celsius. Ifrit's Hell-fire shouldn't be close to 5500 as well, going by the description alone.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Much weaker than Chill Penguin? No.
Chill Penguin wouldn't give Dante or post CM X any sort of trouble and would in fact be swatted aside like the bug he is. Your point is irrelevant.
It's like saying me saying DMC3 Vergil would give DMC2 Dante trouble. 😐
Originally posted by BloodRain
Well played..If its used like a normal sword it will have very high cutting strength. But if its power is used it can go to what I mentioned eg dimensional slashes.
As far as I know, Dante has cut through a Hell-Gate with one of those dimensional slashes. Was that HG the same as the HG that Berial had? Because Lucifer easily destroyed one of those structures as well, albeit with multiple attacks.
Also, you must remember, both are drunk in this fight and affected by RAAAGE. 😛
I honestly am expecting a fist-fight between the two, as opposed to the usage of swords and special weapons/attacks.
Originally posted by The Scenario
I thought that was what Ifrit's Hellfire was stated to be. That's what Acrosurge said, at least, and I sorta trust the guy.
Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Frost:
Although impervious even to volcanic fire, the frosts are weak to higher realms of incendiary. Use the hellfire of Ifrit to counter them.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
As far as I know, Dante has cut through a Hell-Gate with one of those dimensional slashes. Was that HG the same as the HG that Berial had? Because Lucifer easily destroyed one of those structures as well, albeit with multiple attacks.Also, you must remember, both are drunk in this fight and affected by RAAAGE. 😛
I honestly am expecting a fist-fight between the two, as opposed to the usage of swords and special weapons/attacks.
Expecting? I'd be hoping to see a drunk fist-fight between 'em.
Originally posted by BloodRainIfrit's heat is stated to be hotter than a volcano, no? It is not stated to be exponentially greater than a volcano, therefore the volcano gives us a ballpark figure for hellfire. The hottest volcano in the solar system generates heat no greater than 2,000 °C. That's hotter than any volcano on Earth. We'd then logically expect the Ifrit's heat to be greater than this, but not as much as an order of magnitude, or hellfire would be said to be hotter than a sun or a star, which have temperatures of 5,000 °C (surface) - 15 million °C (core).
Half true statement. The demons Frost don't even flinch from volcano heat but the Ifrit flames destroys them. A volcano would be a small fraction of Ifrit's heat.
Again, I point out that Fire Man (a robot quite obsolete in technology in comparison to X) was able to output 6,000 °C and Heat Man over 12,000 °C. Both of these examples are "hotter than a volcano" and "hotter than the center of the Earth". Neither are particularly effective against X's durability. Certainly not in comparison to the power generated by a Neutron Missile or a nuclear warhead at ground zero.
Originally posted by BloodRainI wouldn't want to be anywhere near it when it happens. Collateral. Damage.
Expecting? I'd be hoping to see a drunk fist-fight between 'em.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Again, I point out that Fire Man (a robot quite obsolete in technology in comparison to X) was able to output 6,000 °C and Heat Man over 12,000 °C. Both of these examples are "hotter than a volcano" and "hotter than the center of the Earth". Neither are particularly effective against X's durability. Certainly not in comparison to the power generated by a Neutron Missile or a nuclear warhead at ground zero.
Agreed with this. Even X has reactive armor skeleton which would reduce the damage until 93%. I'd like to see how 6000 celcius degree burned X while the damage is reduced by 93%.
But, what's with nuclear warhead at ground zero? Did X or Zero ever tank such an explosion?
Originally posted by Kirikaze FuumaX tanked a Neutron Missile in Mega Man X2. In Mega Man Zero 2, Zero fought Omega inside a giant warhead in flight and was still inside when the warhead detonated. In Mega Man ZX, X gives his power and DNA to a human, and the human is able to withstand one of Protectus's nuclear missiles.
Agreed with this. Even X has reactive armor skeleton which would reduce the damage until 93%. I'd like to see how 6000 celcius degree burned X while the damage is reduced by 93%.But, what's with nuclear warhead at ground zero? Did X or Zero ever tank such an explosion?
And to add clarity to your post, X's reactive skeleton reduces damage to his body by 93%. This inner skeleton is augmented and covered by his standard, blue Titanium X alloy armor, which is responsible for his exceptional durability.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Agreed with this. Even X has reactive armor skeleton which would reduce the damage until 93%. I'd like to see how 6000 celcius degree burned X while the damage is reduced by 93%.But, what's with nuclear warhead at ground zero? Did X or Zero ever tank such an explosion?
In Zero 3, Zero is inside a missile that detonates and destroys Area Z. Omega, Zero & the Baby Elves all tank the explosion, though it's likely Omega had some protective system built around him while he was immobile in the missile.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixOmega is simply a beast across the board. Fefnir and Leviathan fought him together before he integrated the Dark Elf back into his systems. They couldn't even scratch him. Remember, it took both X and Zero fighting together to put Omega down the first time (they used a Final Strike to get the job done). The second time, Zero and X teamed up again, although X only helped Zero from afar then protected Zero from Omega's ultimate explosion.
In Zero 3, Zero is inside a missile that detonates and destroys Area Z. Omega, Zero & the Baby Elves all tank the explosion, though it's likely Omega had some protective system built around him while he was immobile in the missile.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Omega is simply a beast across the board. Fefnir and Leviathan fought him together before he integrated the Dark Elf back into his systems. They couldn't even scratch him. Remember, it took both X and Zero fighting together to put Omega down the first time (they used a Final Strike to get the job done). The second time, Zero and X teamed up again, although X only helped Zero from afar then protected Zero from Omega's ultimate explosion.
Yes, but he was immobile inside the missile. Even if he is insanely durable, Weil doesn't strike me as the type of man who would throw caution to the wind and leave Omega without any sort of protection.
He likely already knew that Omega could tank the explosion, but he wouldn't leave his greatest asset unprotected.
Originally posted by The Scenario
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I dunno if I can count that as a durability feat since X gets damaged by much lesser threats but whatever.
If he is able to tank things like nuclear explosions and neutron missiles etc, and still be hurt by his enemies, that doesn't lower the obvious power of what he did tank.
It just means his enemies are hitting with attacks that have A LOT of power, simply concentrated into a much smaller area.
DMC attacks don't get that benefit of the doubt because we never see the juxtaposition of nuclear weapon tanking whilst being able to be harmed by smaller scale boss/enemy attacks etc.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
If he is able to tank things like nuclear explosions and neutron missiles etc, and still be hurt by his enemies, that doesn't lower the obvious power of what he did tank.It just means his enemies are hitting with attacks that have A LOT of power, simply concentrated into a much smaller area.
Is that mean small bee mavericks (Like in X8) has a power more than a nuclear blast? Don't get me wrong. I'm not downplaying X. It's just I want to know about this.