Mega Man X v.s. Dante

Started by MooCowofJustice8 pages

Maybe it just stopped raining? Frankly I can't see anything in that scene. Part of why I hate DMC.

Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=087gJdYkYF0&feature=fvw 1:10. If you can't see it after that then, ah well..

Yeah, I can't accept that based on slow rain. Because after Vergil slashes Dante, the rain also slows down as he drops. And I don't think he dropped incredibly fast.

But I'll agree they're fighting fast, it just isn't fast enough.

Rain slows down or slow rain <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< appears to have completely stopped.
There is a massive difference, one shows fast movements the other... Yeah, its been done and worked out and by that he's faster then anything X as faced. Including Quickman..

So Dante fell at 5000 m/s? >_>

Depends, did the rain 'stop' when he was falling or did it slow down..?

The rain never stopped. It was always moving, but it was slower.

1:10 on the last video I posted, the rain does not move. The only thing you see that is moving are the two.

I bet we get some inconsistency if we math the speed of Dante's fall. 131

Well if I pause that video at 1:10 then yeah, the rain won't be moving.

And honestly, what I think that scene is supposed to be showing is that Dante and Virgil are suspending the rain drops with sword strokes or some other power. Because if you'll notice, at the time they stop the collisions, a wave of water crashes on them after what looks like a dome breaks away. The rain around that area was constantly moving.

Also, at 1:04 one of them is moving their sword, and it is hit by a raindrop, and you can see several others falling as well.

I don't think the rain scenario is canon. Those two stopping rainfall is only shown in the introduction. The cut-scene that plays after their first fight shows a different scenario just before their final sword clash.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I bet we get some inconsistency if we math the speed of Dante's fall. 131

Perhaps. 6m/s falling is a bit fast, but not if you look at the reason for. Eg demonstration of skill over dramatics.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well if I pause that video at 1:10 then yeah, the rain won't be moving.

And honestly, what I think that scene is supposed to be showing is that Dante and Virgil are suspending the rain drops with sword strokes or some other power. Because if you'll notice, at the time they stop the collisions, a wave of water crashes on them after what looks like a dome breaks away. The rain around that area was constantly moving.

Also, at 1:04 one of them is moving their sword, and it is hit by a raindrop, and you can see several others falling as well.


Dante, Vergil and the camera = only movement.

That kind of power has only been shown from an awakened Dante, and for what reason would they want to use a power to stop the rainfall? Sword strokes would not leave the drops intact and there were drops frozen away from where the swipes landed. That was the force of the clash, also the dome after the clash is smaller then the area show in the previous part.

Just a slower action before the succeeding scene.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I don't think the rain scenario is canon. Those two stopping rainfall is only shown in the introduction. The cut-scene that plays after their first fight shows a different scenario just before their final sword clash.

It's a representation of the fight when the player takes control. If not we have the question to why, if it was non-canon, they would have him do that if it wasn't able to. Then there's the casual to serious thing that helps confirm this speed.

Originally posted by BloodRain

It's a representation of the fight when the player takes control. If not we have the question to why, if it was non-canon, they would have him do that if it wasn't able to. Then there's the casual to serious thing that helps confirm this speed.

Not doubting his speed. He pulls off something similar (in terms of sword slashes) when diving/running down the tower.
The rain thing in the introduction is likely non-canon though. Mostly due to the fact that the rainfall stopping scene is performed just before their final sword clash.
Yet in the actual cut-scene, Dante just charges at him before their final sword clash.

Size is a different matter on that dome, it's probably just a random inconsistency for aesthetic purposes. And no, I'm positive they are supposed to be suspending the raindrops somehow.

The wave of water that crashes down remains unexplained, and it's very clearly seen. As well as raindrops moving around this dome shaped area.

@DP- That's what I mean by the representation of what the player has to do.

@Moo- Its a large difference. How so? They slash the raindrops they would disperse. Only thing left is for them to use their.. no, Vergil's demon aura to make the rain float around him. I really don't think he's bothered about getting wet to waste energy on that

Slashing and moving at that speed would shatter the raindrops in the area around them, when they go to normal speed the rain would be spread out in that area. Then there's the movement and force from those quick movements on the area around them, same thing happens when brought back to real time. Its the kind of stuff that happens at that speed. In the scene there's rain shown not to move that's not even close to them.

When did I say they slashed the raindrops? I don't know how dude, but it goes like this.

One minute they are fighting, the rain is falling. We get a few different angles and suddenly raindrops aren't moving. They stop, dome, wave of water.

Dangit, Rainguy. There is other Dante thread which requires immediate attention of yours. >| Is hard to lay trap when you cannot even trap bait. 😛

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
When did I say they slashed the raindrops? I don't know how dude, but it goes like this.

One minute they are fighting, the rain is falling. We get a few different angles and suddenly raindrops aren't moving. They stop, dome, wave of water.

''Dante and Virgil are suspending the rain drops with sword strokes'' There I assumed.

The scene when the rain stops is faster then the scenes before. They have no use to purposely stop the rain themselves. The dome wave is explained through their high speed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Dangit, Rainguy. There is other Dante thread which requires immediate attention of yours. >| Is hard to lay trap when you cannot even trap bait. 😛

Ok ok, I see it now. In wonder to why you made it but nevertheless..

I don't think they're doing it on purpose, but suspended raindrops is undeniable. The wave of water cannot be created without collecting water in one spot. And this water only lands around them.

Said the same thing with BT, the only other explanation is some unknown force or power that makes the rain freeze. A force that has never been shown or hinted on.

The reason why your idea doesn't work; if they were indeed doing something to suspend the air around them then no rain would enter that 'dome' apart from the rain already inside. So no water can be collected since no extra rain could get there.

It only lands around them as that's the area that they were moving so fast in. Moving at that speed would disrupt the rain and push it away from where they move, hence the dome created. Plays out like this: They both move at extreme speeds, so fast the world appears to have stopped. At that speed anything near you will be pushed away from you (creation of a dome close to them) until they revert to normal speed and things play out like normal besides the disruption in the air (dome falling). There, all sorted.