Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, he's a puritan. He places Spiderman onto a pedestal, and argues against changing it AT ALL. Just ask him: he is equally against changing Spiderman's race as he is against changing Spiderman's name, or city, or friends names, or anything. He wants the original story to be told only one way; in the original way. This is artistic strangulation in the worst way.
fair enough, i agree, but you can see where i would get confused
Originally posted by chomperx9
ive given examples but of course you cant answer my question. il give you another shot. why did they draw peter parker white all those years ? same goes for just about any other character.and i didnt say he plays hockey or plays baseball was using that as an example as in does he need to be doing those things to describe him as a white guy or what describes a white person to you ?
Because when Spiderman came out, there were very few Black superheroes, most were simply drawn Caucasian, though that aspect didn't anchor anything down to the character.
Why does that matter to the character, specifically Peter Parker? How does an actor's non-white skin color take away from any important aspects of Peter Parker? (going to ignore these yet again?)
What an odd, odd question; why are you making this so much about "race", seriously?
Originally posted by Robtard
Because when Spiderman came out, there were very few Black superheroes, most were simply drawn Caucasian, though that aspect didn't anchor anything down to the character.Why does that matter to the character, specifically Peter Parker? How does an actor's non-white skin color take away from any important aspects of Peter Parker? (going to ignore these yet again?)
What an odd, odd question; why are you making this so much about "race", seriously?
]Because when Spiderman came out, there were very few Black superheroes, most were simply drawn Caucasian, though that aspect didn't anchor anything down to the character
so its ok to change his race now because there wasnt enough black characters drawn back then ?
Why does that matter to the character, specifically Peter Parker? How does an actor's non-white skin color take away from any important aspects of Peter Parker? (going to ignore these yet again?)
What an odd, odd question; why are you making this so much about "race", seriously?because thats what they are. just cause it doesnt say what race they are at day 1 doesnt mean race is not relevant to their character.
if you dont mind me asking what is your 1st name and what race are you ?
Originally posted by chomperx9
so its ok to change his race now because there wasnt enough black characters drawn back then ?i never said specifically peter parker. if you look back at what i previously posted that i would be just as concerned with any other characters race being changed as well. artist stick to drawing those characters their color for a reason all those years.
because thats what they are. just cause it doesnt say what race they are at day 1 doesnt mean race is not relevant to their character.
if you dont mind me asking what is your 1st name and what race are you ?
You're not listening, I am saying the color of the actor doesn't matter here, as Peter Parker's skin color has little to no bearing on the character. Thor would be a perfect example of why the actor should be Caucasian, not Spiderman.
Not telling you my name, you weirdo. I'm South American by birth, appearance-wise, I look typically "white", having a Italian and Spanish background. Why does this matter? Because you're trying to make this into a racial issue.
Originally posted by Robtardim not trying to make this into a racial issue. il tell you my name and race so you dont get the wrong idea. my 1st name is Andy and im part hispanic.
You're not listening, I am saying the color of the actor doesn't matter here, as Peter Parker's skin color has little to no bearing on the character. Thor would be a perfect example of why the actor should be Caucasian, not Spiderman.Not telling you my name, you weirdo. I'm South American by birth, appearance-wise, I look typically "white", having a Italian and Spanish background. Why does this matter? Because you're trying to make this into a racial issue.
only reason i was asking for your name and race is because i was gonna show you an example of why they dont say in a comicbook what race they are.
ok so im just gonna say your white for example and say your name is rob.
now when you go to a job interview when you 1st walk in do you say hi my name is rob and im a white guy how are you doing today ?
Originally posted by Robtard
You're not listening, I am saying the color of the actor doesn't matter here, as Peter Parker's skin color has little to no bearing on the character. Thor would be a perfect example of why the actor should be Caucasian, not Spiderman.Not telling you my name, you weirdo. I'm South American by birth, appearance-wise, I look typically "white", having a Italian and Spanish background. Why does this matter? Because you're trying to make this into a racial issue.
Yeah, what race are you....Human or Alien.
lol.
Originally posted by RobtardCoconut.
You're not listening, I am saying the color of the actor doesn't matter here, as Peter Parker's skin color has little to no bearing on the character. Thor would be a perfect example of why the actor should be Caucasian, not Spiderman.Not telling you my name, you weirdo. I'm South American by birth, appearance-wise, I look typically "white", having a Italian and Spanish background. Why does this matter? Because you're trying to make this into a racial issue.
I know this probably isn't going to happen as it still remains as a thin rumor but i don't see how this could be anything but a racial issue. Not that that is a negative thing. Even though black and white people are generally there is still a huge cultural difference. If, Spiderman is cast and rewritten as a black person these cultural differences will most likely be incorporated into his character. This would change the, Spiderman that we all know and grew up with. It would be the same if he were changed to a Mexican or Japanese person. His character is already altered enough when adapted into a movie. Just make a movie about an already existing black person or make a new black super hero.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I know this probably isn't going to happen as it still remains as a thin rumor but i don't see how this could be anything but a racial issue. Not that that is a negative thing. Even though black and white people are generally there is still a huge cultural difference. If, Spiderman is cast and rewritten as a black person these cultural differences will most likely be incorporated into his character. This would change the, Spiderman that we all know and grew up with. It would be the same if he were changed to a Mexican or Japanese person. His character is already altered enough when adapted into a movie. Just make a movie about an already existing black person or make a new black super hero.
His culture is that of a middle class New Yorker. I suspect there are very few places you could be more disconnected from a sense of racial identity.
Originally posted by chomperx9
im not trying to make this into a racial issue. il tell you my name and race so you dont get the wrong idea. my 1st name is Andy and im part hispanic.only reason i was asking for your name and race is because i was gonna show you an example of why they dont say in a comicbook what race they are.
ok so im just gonna say your white for example and say your name is rob.
now when you go to a job interview when you 1st walk in do you say hi my name is rob and im a white guy how are you doing today ?
Yet every stance you bring up "race!", "race!", "race!", odd, no?
Okay, I'll bite. No, I don't/wouldn't. Your point as it pertains in Spider-man?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The notion that being white is not an essential characteristic of Peter Parker incorrectly presumes that white people are without ethnicity or culture, i.e. that whiteness is a default state, and that moving him from this state does not change him as a character.
I've asked before, if the actor is black, but the character stays true to the comics, ie awkward, nerdy kid with high intellect, where does the actors skin color factor in?
Originally posted by Robtard
I've asked before, if the actor is black, but the character stays true to the comics, ie awkward, nerdy kid with high intellect, where does the actors skin color factor in?
Ethnicity is as essential to identity as gender or sexual orientation. You may as well be asking why he cannot be a she, or why he cannot be gay, and be essentially the same character. The only way that being white would not be essential to his character is if "white" was a neutral characteristic.
Originally posted by Robtardwell your in the wrong thread because the discussion is about people wanting spiderman to be black. so it involves 100% race.
Yet every stance you bring up "race!", "race!", "race!", odd, no?
and no you dont say your race when you introduce yourself because people can obviously see what you are.
they arent going to say in the comics as well Hi im peter parker and im a white guy. just telling you my race maam so you know what race is relevant to me.
if it was stated what race each character was people would take it the wrong way at some point.