Originally posted by BlackZero30x
that's all fine but like i said make sure the watcher is there to explain this isn't real because spider-mans actually not black.
A) We've never needed that before. All those movies are clearly out of continuity and none needed a Watcher to tell people that. In fact even a lot of out of continuity comics don't have a Watcher appear to explain things.
B) How exactly would that disclaimer go? "Oh, by the way, this isn't real. Yes, we know most of you are able to realize that but we're being sensitive to the schizophrenic population."
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Would be bizarre/impossible for reasons I outlined not simply because "MLK is black".
Again, SO what? It's only for a movie. Jeebus! your reasons are dimwit. Did you ever saw Bubba Ho Tep? Ozzie Davis plays JFK...Hank the dwarf plays God in Toxic Avenger....Alanis also plays God in Dogma...Heck! Mel Gibson plays the role of William Wallace! Oh, heck! Even Elizabeth Taylor plays the role of Cleopatra....Elizabeth is not even egyptian.
Man! Stretch out your mind every now and then...better yet...go watch more movies.
Originally posted by WickedDynamitejay leno should be marting luther king instead of goodman
Usually I would laugh at these stories...however, when a black Catwoman was done with Halle Berry I was spewing fire and wanted to chop off the peanut size nuts of the DC/WB executive who gave it a green light.Yeah, Eartha Kitt would only be the exception since she had a very likeable personality...but still...
Anywhoo, people who are promoting this and saying "Oh, who cares?! let there be no color lines a black man SHOULD be allowed to play Spiderman, Luke Skywalker, Robocop, Captain America and so on...."
Well, then why not make a Martin Luther King Jr. film featuring John Goodman? Hell! it works both ways.
Then again someone will come here and say "Well, WD...MLK Jr isn't a fictional character...therefore you're one Racist SOB!"
I would just reply: "So? it's only a movie...it's not re-writing history...so yeah! Support WD on his agenda to make John Goodman play the role of Martin Luther King Jr."
SUCKAS!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because Professor X was created by Stan Lee as being a white guy. If he is portrayed in a movie as a black guy, they are not staying true to Stan Lee's vision. And what DDM said about Blade as a white guy, same thing.
So? Why is it important to stay true to "Stan Lee's vision"? Hardly anyone complained about Constantine, and that was basically a different person. I personally think it would have been a better movie had they stayed closer to the source material, but that's not true for everything, imo, and if you can make a great movie with a black character portraying Spider-Man or Professor X, then I won't complain.
What about Nick Fury being black? Do you object to that? It's definitely not true to Stan Lee's original vision. Or is that okay cause Brian Michael Bendis changed it before?
Originally posted by Bardock42so then there wouldnt be a problem with not sticking to bill cosby's vision of fat albert ? what if Jonah Hill should play fat albert in the next movie. would there be a problem with that ?
So? Why is it important to stay true to "Stan Lee's vision"? Hardly anyone complained about Constantine, and that was basically a different person. I personally think it would have been a better movie had they stayed closer to the source material, but that's not true for everything, imo, and if you can make a great movie with a black character portraying Spider-Man or Professor X, then I won't complain.What about Nick Fury being black? Do you object to that? It's definitely not true to Stan Lee's original vision. Or is that okay cause Brian Michael Bendis changed it before?
Originally posted by chomperx9
so then there wouldnt be a problem with not sticking to bill cosby's vision of fat albert ? what if Jonah Hill should play fat albert in the next movie. would there be a problem with that ?
Sure, I don't see a problem with that.
I also don't see a problem with John Goodman as MLK. It would probably make a pretty bad movie, and require either a lot of suspension of disbelief or huge plot changing rewrites. It wouldn't be the story of MLK as we know it (unless everyone pretends JG is black), but that's the difference between a biography and a fictional story based on a very fluid, long running character concept.
I also think it would be okay for M. Bison/Balrog to be white in a Street Fighter adaptation.
Originally posted by chomperx9
thats the same problem with having a black spiderman.
No, it isn't. As I explained in a further sentence. Spider-Man doesn't have the same requirements, as he is not a person, but a concept, as the comics have shown by having many, many different versions of the character. There is nothing that would mean it would be a bad story, because the characters premise is not rooted in anything more than a name and perhaps some spider-like powers.
Originally posted by dadudemon
People would throw a sh*tstorm if they made Blade white.So, why would they make Spiderman, an almost stereotypical nerdy white-guy type, a different race?
Because it doesn't really matter what colour his skin is?
See that?
That was Sense.
Let me get this straite, you're ok with a teenage geek, getting bit by a radioactive spider, walking on walls, shooting everlasting webbing from his wrists, jumping 50ft and takling 10 ton hits..
But making him a geek with brown skin in the movie adaption suddenly throws your world upside down? lolmuch?
Could be a good move, if the guys a good actor , so frickin be it. And btw, the movie verse isnt always canon to the comic verse, so yeah, they can do what they like for the movie versions. If he's good, then grats, it;'s a good spidey flick.we all win!
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A) We've never needed that before. All those movies are clearly out of continuity and none needed a Watcher to tell people that. In fact even a lot of out of continuity comics don't have a Watcher appear to explain things.B) How exactly would that disclaimer go? "Oh, by the way, this isn't real. Yes, we know most of you are able to realize that but we're being sensitive to the schizophrenic population."
a) No we have never needed that before because their has been no what if stories in movies before. but if this is going to be a what if movie then it need to be done that way because the movie verse is based on the comicverse.
but according to your logic why not change his name and make it so his parents raised him. Or how bout make his costume different looking.
you know why not? because then this wouldn't be spider-man and making him black would be the same thing as changing the story or costume.
B) no i thought it would be nice to use something like this
"I am Uatu the Watcher. I observe but never interfere. the following is going to happen based on change. The events that are unfolding tell the story of Spider-Man if he would have been a black male."
or something close to that.