Originally posted by Galan007
^ It seems like you're stuck on the notion that these guys never laid their hands on a lightsaber before confronting Palpatine... Which isn't true. They fought [and survived] throughout the entire Clone Wars. Hell, even Mace Windu became much more battle hardened/refined from fighting in the War for so many years.Though I will admit that out of Kit, Saesee, and Agen, Kit certainly has the best feats (tooling Grievous and all.) But yeah, I understand where you're coming from. You want confirmed 'uber-class' feats, and [most of] these guys simply do not have them. However, I see no reason why Obi-Wan's "if Sids can defeat them, he could easily pwn us" comment wouldn't be valid in some way/shape/form.... Especially when Yoda agreed with it.
Meh, it's all opinion based, I guess..
Come on my friend, am I really saying these guys haven't laid their hands on lightsabers? In fact, I've said the opposite. They have years and years of lightsaber training, and becoming technical masters of said weapon. However, being technical dojo masters and fighting no force using fodder in the clone wars, doesn't give me the life or death one v one duals I'm looking for. I don't need uber feats of holdings destroyer together via the force without it breaking apart or taking on 3 jedi masters at the same time. What I'm asking for, are one v. one duals against quality opponents for these three masters. You don't think that is the "best" way to judge how good someone is with a lightsaber? Going against a quality foe in a life or death situation, is far removed from looking good in the dojo or beating no name robot fodder. Sure it can make you better, but doesn't prove your technical skill or prowess against quality opposition. You prove that in a duel, just as you prove it on the basketball court come game time, not in practice. You don't think it's possible they were referring to how good they were in the dojo, or how proficient they were in multiple styles? Seems like that could very logically be why they were held in such high esteem. Either way my friend, you're correct in that it's all a matter of opinion. I respect yours more than most, and thus I'm not totally disagreeing with your stance. I guess we're just arguing over semantics and the interpretation of said lines.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiConsidering the context, I don't think 'dojo-proficiency' is what Obi-Wan was commenting on at all.
You don't think it's possible they were referring to how good they were in the dojo, or how proficient they were in multiple styles? Seems like that could very logically be why they were held in such high esteem.Either way my friend, you're correct in that it's all a matter of opinion. I respect yours more than most, and thus I'm not totally disagreeing with your stance. I guess we're just arguing over semantics and the interpretation of said lines.
I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion either... I'm just throwing mine out there as well. But like you said, it's all semantics in the end.
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He is, I just Googled it. It's part of a fanon. Check it.
Not so. The page isn't referring to the novel. Anyone know if the 6 Dark Emperor books are canon or not?
Originally posted by Galan007
In some cases, superior technical skill with a lightsaber makes up for lesser prowess with the force.For instance: Kas'im vs. Bane, Anakin vs. Dooku (RotS), Mace vs. Sidious.