Originally posted by celeyhyga17The point is she'd need her skill whereas someone like Thor or Superman can trade blows with him unlike WW who isn't up to their levels.
thats if he can tag her enuff. she is effin fast and can lay down some lumber herself. she'll prolly roll with his punches if he connects lessening the damage.
Originally posted by quanchi112you keep saying she isn't up to their levels. That is ridiculous. Prove that she can't trade blows with them.ZOOM WAS KNOCKING HER AROIND THE GLOBE. Hell yeah she can trade blows with any of them.
The point is she'd need her skill whereas someone like Thor or Superman can trade blows with him unlike WW who isn't up to their levels.
Originally posted by quanchi112
She might be more skilled than Jonn is but power wise and strength wise he's above her just like Marvel, etc. She can't trade blows with any of these guys. The sooner you accept how she's written the better.
She has traded blows with CM and Superman often, both taking hits and inflicting damage in return.
You're just repeating something directly contradicted by the comics. Saying she can't do this or that is wrong when she actually has done those things on a regular basis.
The point is she'd need her skill
What a pointless statement. She has her skills.
That's like saying "Batman's not on the joker's level because he needs his brains to track him down."
Skills are not some separate thing that aren't counted.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Um no she didn't. Flat out lie. She admitted most other powerful heroes get intimidated by her. Im ooking at the issue. No where did she say she was weaker than PG.
In Wonder Woman's own comic, in their recent fight, Diana's narration conceeds that PG is ATLEAST as strong and fast as her, AKA Wondy at her best = PG at her most mediocre.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
In Wonder Woman's own comic, in their recent fight, Diana's narration conceeds that PG is ATLEAST as strong and fast as her, AKA Wondy at her best = PG at her most mediocre.
How do you get "PG at her most mediocre" out of that? Sounds more like Wondy ~= PG.
Before you factor in skill, or gear. With which she absolutely schooled PG and then physically restrained her.
Originally posted by Q99I was wondering the same thing. Wondy wasn't even fighting back and she was taking PGs angriest blows.
How do you get "PG at her most mediocre" out of that? Sounds more like Wondy ~= PG.Before you factor in skill, or gear. With which she absolutely schooled PG and then physically restrained her.
Before PG attacks with SS, WW knows it's her an gets her bracers up. PG only got a hit in once WW tries to do her talk and make peace thing. WW says She is strong and fast of Kara but I am something entirely different. And that PG slightly peaved off WW. No way you canvget anything from that but that WW is stronger and faster as she blocked many of PGs attacks. Only getting hit when she was trying to subdue and talk.WW also held PG with little effort once she got in close. WW is stronger, Faster, and better skilled than PG.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
In Wonder Woman's own comic, in their recent fight, Diana's narration conceeds that PG is ATLEAST as strong and fast as her, AKA Wondy at her best = PG at her most mediocre.
Gail Simone addressed that text over at the CBR boards. She did not write Diana as admitting Powergirl is stronger than her. Ms. Simone's intention was to show Diana assessing PG as a serious threat. She in no way means that WW at her best is equal to PG at her most mediocre. And if you read the rest of the fight, that should be clear. PG is was strong as WW, but she was outclassed when WW got serious.
In addition, even without clarification from the author, no person who speaks English as their first language would come up with the interpretation that you just did. That is not the normal usage of that phrase. Also, your slower comment has no foundation at all.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Gail Simone addressed that text over at the CBR boards. She did not write Diana as admitting Powergirl is stronger than her. Ms. Simone's intention was to show Diana assessing PG as a serious threat. She in no way means that WW at her best is equal to PG at her most mediocre. And if you read the rest of the fight, that should be clear. PG is was strong as WW, but she was outclassed when WW got serious.In addition, even without clarification from the author, no person who speaks English as their first language would come up with the interpretation that you just did. That is not the normal usage of that phrase. Also, your slower comment has no foundation at all.
Uh-huh. I never give two shits what a writer says about interpretation. It's generally just a last ditch effort to avoid a shitstorm for what they actually wrote.
Makes sense I guess, I mean it's not like "at least" means "at the least" which is... you know, the least. If someone is, at the least as strong and fast as you, then that means at the most they ARE STRONGER AND FASTER then you.
Methinks your english needs brushing up.
Wonder Woman had an advantage over a Powergirl who's mind was being messed with, when they stood there trying to trade blows. Up until that point PG had the advantage. We all know just trying to stand there and H2H Wonder Woman is not the way to go for anyone.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Uh-huh. I never give two shits what a writer says about interpretation. It's generally just a last ditch effort to avoid a shitstorm for what they actually wrote.Makes sense I guess, I mean it's not like "at least" means "at the least" which is... you know, the least. If someone is, at the least as strong and fast as you, then that means at the most they ARE STRONGER AND FASTER then you.
Methinks your english needs brushing up.
Wonder Woman had an advantage over a Powergirl who's mind was being messed with, when they stood there trying to trade blows. Up until that point PG had the advantage. We all know just trying to stand there and H2H Wonder Woman is not the way to go for anyone.
Considering that there was not one grammatically correct sentence in your post, I do not think you should be advising anyone to brush up on their English.
And just to recap, you don't care when the writer tells you what she meant in a particular scene. You would just rather make up your own interpretation and run with? That makes a lot of sense to me/
There are plenty of ways to interpret that statement, all without butchering the English language. Have you ever considered that WW was assessing PG's abilities on the whole? What I mean is that the "at least" reference isn't about PG's strength and speed possibly being greater, but that she might possess other traits equal to WW. For example, she's at least as strong and fast could imply that she could also be as durable, etc.
The point is your interpretation is not necessarily the correct one. And given clarification from the writer herself, I am confident in saying that your interpretation is NOT the correct one. Nothing in their fight indicates that PG > WW - not even the text.
So specifically pointing out speed and strength means she's factoring in other attributes? That makes sense. I also fail to see how understanding Wonder Womans clear cut statement can be seen as butchering the English language.
It's strange you'd bring up my interpretation then make a completely wild claim that isn't even backed up on panel, unlike mine, which is clear as day and easily understandable.
"She's atleast as strong and fast as I am" easy sentence to understand, as is it's intent. Powergirl is, at the least, as strong as Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
So specifically pointing out speed and strength means she's factoring in other attributes? That makes sense. I also fail to see how understanding Wonder Womans clear cut statement can be seen as butchering the English language.It's strange you'd bring up my interpretation then make a completely wild claim that isn't even backed up on panel, unlike mine, which is clear as day and easily understandable.
"She's atleast as strong and fast as I am" easy sentence to understand, as is it's intent. Powergirl is, at the least, as strong as Wonder Woman.
Obviously it's not a clear cut statement because there are different ways to interpret it. She was sizing up her opponent and determining how their various stats compared with each other. If PG were stronger, WW would have said that.
There was not a wild claim in my post. It's actually quite reasonable. You're just not able to comprehend it.
Also, your statement isn't backed up on panel because there is not a single indication that PG is stronger than WW. Not one.
Your last sentence is the only one thus far that is accurate. She is as strong as WW. You can derive no more from that statement. Nothing on panel indicates otherwise and the writer also told you as much.
And your grammar is still atrocious.