Originally posted by TheTyrant
How does Thor even defeat Buu? How does he even hurt him? The only reason that the spirit bomb worked was because Kid Buu was evil incarnate. Thor has got nothing like that.
He doesn't have an attack comprised of divine energy, energy which caused harm to Mephisto, who is evil incarnate?
...wait.
Originally posted by Mindset
Mystic Gohan, Vegito and SS3 Goku were hurting him with punches iirc.
All of whom far outpower Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He doesn't have an attack comprised of divine energy, energy which caused harm to Mephisto, who is evil incarnate?...wait.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
All of whom far outpower Thor.That's different. Goku's SB absorbed the power of every living being on earth. Can Thor do that?
Based on what? Actual feats this time or just more conjecture and assumption?
Probably, not, as he doesn't have a technique such as that in his arsenal. He can, however, draw energy from the earth itself in the form of electromagentic energy, thermal energy, or various other kinds of energy. And while we're on the subject of plot device attacks such as the Spirit Bomb, which require the cooperation of beings outside of Goku, you don't think that Thor could petition Asgard to amp him?
There's still nothing to suggest a God Blast which damaged a Celestial won't phuck up Majin Buu. And even less to suggest that Buu could handle eating his own attacks amplied up to a hundred fold.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? Actual feats this time or just more conjecture and assumption?Probably, not, as he doesn't have a technique such as that in his arsenal. He can, however, draw energy from the earth itself in the form of electromagentic energy, thermal energy, or various other kinds of energy. And while we're on the subject of plot device attacks such as the Spirit Bomb, which require the cooperation of beings outside of Goku, you don't think that Thor could petition Asgard to amp him?
There's still nothing to suggest a God Blast which damaged a Celestial won't phuck up Majin Buu. And even less to suggest that Buu could handle eating his own attacks amplied up to a hundred fold.
Originally posted by Mindset
Lol, based on what?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? Actual feats this time or just more conjecture and assumption?Probably, not, as he doesn't have a technique such as that in his arsenal. He can, however, draw energy from the earth itself in the form of electromagentic energy, thermal energy, or various other kinds of energy. And while we're on the subject of plot device attacks such as the Spirit Bomb, which require the cooperation of beings outside of Goku, you don't think that Thor could petition Asgard to amp him?
There's still nothing to suggest a God Blast which damaged a Celestial won't phuck up Majin Buu. And even less to suggest that Buu could handle eating his own attacks amplied up to a hundred fold.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
ABC logic FTW.The GB is too slow. Kinda like Vegeta's final flash.
So nothing of note that can be used here? Cool.
The Godblast has been fired more quickly than Vegeta has fired the Final Flash. Regardless, Thor has means of beating DBZ characters without using the Godblast.
Originally posted by Starscream M
well, if you're gonna just dismiss everything the dbz side is putting forth...I guess then yeah, thor...I mean Mjolnir wins!
I'm not dismissing anything. I'm asking for feats of the specific character used against Thor, in this case, Cell. PR ruled out ABC logic in general, and OV said it wasn't going to fly in the thread he created. Sorry.
You can be upset that Mjolnir gives Thor a huge advantage, but it's true. 😬
Originally posted by JakeTheBankPr is not god you know. he could be wrong (I think in this case he is) regarding whether abc logic is applicable. common sense should dictate that we allow abc logic regarding dbz characters.
I'm not dismissing anything. I'm asking for feats of the specific character used against Thor, in this case, Cell. PR ruled out ABC logic in general, and OV said it wasn't going to fly in the thread he created. Sorry.You can be upset that Mjolnir gives Thor a huge advantage, but it's true. 😬
Originally posted by Starscream M
Pr is not god you know. he could be wrong (I think in this case he is) regarding whether abc logic is applicable. common sense should dictate that we allow abc logic regarding dbz characters.
I didn't say he is, but he's a mod and I think he'd have a stronger grasp on the rules on the versus forum than either of us. And if we show ABC logic regarding DBZ characters, then we should use ABC logic for comic book characters and video game characters and everyone else. You see how that's a slippery slope? Bending the rules or changing the system primarily to allow a specific character or group there of is pretty much the definition of bias.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankbut don't you realize abc logic is perfectly valid in many situations?
I didn't say he is, but he's a mod and I think he'd have a stronger grasp on the rules on the versus forum than either of us. And if we show ABC logic regarding DBZ characters, then we should use ABC logic for comic book characters and video game characters and everyone else. You see how that's a slippery slope? Bending the rules or changing the system primarily to allow a specific character or group there of is pretty much the definition of bias.
ie, if I say superman can beat hulk and hulk can beat captain america, its perfectly reasonable to conclude superman can beat captain america
where one can't use abc logic is if special circumstances come into play...ie saying because human torch can beat namor (through heat weakness) that human torch must also be able to beat storm (who namor could prob beat but human torch may lose to due to heat weakness no longer existing)
using abc logic regarding dbz is very reasonable imo.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Then we can throw away every single DBZ character related thread...
Not really.
I can personally think of plenty of feats Goku accomplished in each of the sagas on his own, without projecting other feats and showings on him based on who he has beaten. All the main characters individually has feats and skills on their own. The main problem with DBZ is that it's mostly unquantifiable feats, open to interpretation and assumption. Sucks, but that's the way it was designed. I don't why DBZ should get a slide just because they're disadvantaged against characters with feats which can be measured explicitly and without projection from other beings.