Cross-Genre Match #1: Vegeta vs Thor

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He moved faster for Heimdall to see. 😐 Heimdall. You'd be hard pressed to find someone with better senses than him outside of a Kryptonian or someone with Cosmic Awareness.

It said it was an instant telepathic blast. Telepathy, thought in both Marvel and DC is quantified at moving at least at lightspeed. And Thor, while groggy, defended against that attack.

Those aren't even his better feats.

Jake I know everything there is to know about Thor. How about this, go to the Superman vs Thor thread and look at all the beautiful scans that I presented. There is nothing indicating that Thor can combat at light speed.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😂

Really?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😂

Really?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Also, Vegeta wins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? A groggy Thor reacting to an instant telepathic attack which travels at FTL speed?

Lol.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm not playing any games. I come to kmc to debate logically and without bias.

I don't run away, I do have to be away from the computers at times...sorry if I can't be on 24/7 responding to your old trite examples of thor blocking straight projectiles as evidence he can handle a z fighters speed.

I don't like debating in circles, which is what we would be doing constantly rehashing the same old points again and again.

I find you to be laughably biased in any thread involving thor and I hope I can do my part to eventually make you realize that and become a better debator.

And again, same old Starscream.

At least be consistent. If you want to troll and call people names, then do so without worry. Don't be a coward and change your tune because you're afraid of getting warnings or being banned.

Originally posted by Starscream M
was it onedumbgo who posted threads? if so, yeah, I believe he said vegeta beats thor. and you know odg is one of the most fair and knowledgeable posters on kmc.

He sure did but he actually said frieza would stomp Thor. He also said that frieza is>>>planetary busting.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so if I can hit a baseball that means I can deal with a rabid chimp?! 😆

Fail analogy is fail.

Baseballs move at FTL speeds I guess.

Originally posted by carver9
Have a question for you black bolt. Lets say if Vegeta was restricted from using energy attacks, he can only fight Thor physically.

Lets say if you took Thor hammer away, he has to be physical with Vegeta.

Who would win?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He moved faster for Heimdall to see. 😐 Heimdall. You'd be hard pressed to find someone with better senses than him outside of a Kryptonian or someone with Cosmic Awareness.

It said it was an instant telepathic blast. Telepathy, thought in both Marvel and DC is quantified at moving at least at lightspeed. And Thor, while groggy, defended against that attack.

Those aren't even his better feats.

It said telepathic attack but it certainly didn't look like that.Just looked like a pheonix fireball.Might have had a telepathic attack but it wasn't a mindrape if thats what you mean by any sorts.Also that just means he is good on the quickdraw.

Then can you post his better feats?I don't want to see him swinging his hammer fast I want to see punching and moving really fast while fighting.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? A groggy Thor reacting to an instant telepathic attack which travels at FTL speed?

Lol.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No energy attacks and no hammer?Vegeta.Vegeta is much faster then thor and with the hammer is at a big disadvantage.Why? But that still for me only proves that he can swing his hammer at faster then sound.Not FTL combat.

It said telepathic attack but it certainly didn't look like that.Just looked like a pheonix fireball.Might have had a telepathic attack but it wasn't a mindrape if thats what you mean by any sorts.Also that just means he is good on the quickdraw.

Then can you post his better feats?I don't want to see him swinging his hammer fast I want to see punching and moving really fast while fighting.

LOL, I know every feat of Thor and you will never see him combating fast. There is a scene of him digging a ditch pretty fast but Dragonball z fast, hell no.

The reason I asked you the question about the vegeta vs Thor with a disadvantage is because I just wanted to see where your thought process was at. So the reason you are giving Thor the win is because of what the hammer can do?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And again, same old Starscream.

At least be consistent. If you want to troll and call people names, then do so without worry. Don't be a coward and change your tune because you're afraid of getting warnings or being banned.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats wasn't at FTL.If it wwas they certainly didn't even make it try to look like it.

It was described as instantaneous. Instant as in right away, asap, etc. And it was a telepathic blast, which would have been moving at least at the speed of thought, which in comics, is >= speed of light.

And Thor blocked it and sent it back to her. While groggy.

I don't know how much more to break it down.

Originally posted by carver9
He sure did but he actually said frieza would stomp Thor. He also said that frieza is>>>planetary busting.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats wasn't at FTL.If it wwas they certainly didn't even make it try to look like it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thats wasn't at FTL.If it wwas they certainly didn't even make it try to look like it.

LOL, I dont understand why he can discredit all the blast that DBZ characters knock out of the air with one hand but give credit to Thor knocking a blast out of the air. Hell Goku was moving so fast that it appeared as if blast was going through his body.

Fast forward it to 1 minute and 14 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJhkMhnUR0

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, I know every feat of Thor and you will never see him combating fast. There is a scene of him digging a ditch pretty fast but Dragonball z fast, hell no.

The reason I asked you the question about the vegeta vs Thor with a disadvantage is because I just wanted to see where your thought process was at. So the reason you are giving Thor the win is because of what the hammer can do?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It was described as instantaneous. Instant as in right away, asap, etc. And it was a telepathic blast, which would have been moving at least at the speed of thought, which in comics, is >= speed of light.

And Thor blocked it and sent it back to her. While groggy.

I don't know how much more to break it down.

Originally posted by Starscream M
even if it was, its not a good example as it was a projectile moving in a predictable straight path. being able to deflect that by no means implies thor can react to someone who can run circles around him without being seen.

And projectiles in DBZ don't travel in straight paths a majority of the time? Last I checked, the Galick Gun is a beam fired in a straight path. The Big Bang is a sphere of energy which travels in a straight path. The Final Flash is a huge beam that does the same. You're also forgetting that Mjolnir draws in energy to its being from multiple angles as well as the fact that Thor can just drain him of his energy to begin with.

His speed factor, arguably Vegeta's only advantage against Thor, isn't enough to make up for every other single advantage that Thor has.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It was described as instantaneous. Instant as in right away, asap, etc. And it was a telepathic blast, which would have been moving at least at the speed of thought, which in comics, is >= speed of light.

And Thor blocked it and sent it back to her. While groggy.

I don't know how much more to break it down.

Now show me that fast combat speed. I dont want to see him hitting blast, I want to see super speed fighting. The blast was something that was seeable, I want to see Thor fighting something that is moving so fast at him that he is invisible.

Looked at the scans.It doesn't say it moved instantly it says.It instantly starts moving towards thor.So now it wasn't FTL.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And projectiles in DBZ don't travel in straight paths a majority of the time? Last I checked, the Galick Gun is a beam fired in a straight path. The Big Bang is a sphere of energy which travels in a straight path. The Final Flash is a huge beam that does the same. You're also forgetting that Mjolnir draws in energy to its being from multiple angles as well as the fact that Thor can just drain him of his energy to begin with.

His speed factor, arguably Vegeta's only advantage against Thor, isn't enough to make up for every other single advantage that Thor has.