Originally posted by Black bolt z
Didn't look like it but I will look at it again.Also thats not combat speed thats on a quick draw.
How it looks should have nothing to do with it if it's being stated to be that speed. They draw the Flash in comics with blurs regardless of him moving subsonic, supersonic, or at lightspeed. It's artistic rendition.
And how is it not combat? They thought he was the damn Juggernaut and we're intent on kicking his ass.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And projectiles in DBZ don't travel in straight paths a majority of the time? Last I checked, the Galick Gun is a beam fired in a straight path. The Big Bang is a sphere of energy which travels in a straight path. The Final Flash is a huge beam that does the same. You're also forgetting that Mjolnir draws in energy to its being from multiple angles as well as the fact that Thor can just drain him of his energy to begin with.His speed factor, arguably Vegeta's only advantage against Thor, isn't enough to make up for every other single advantage that Thor has.
Those blast that you named doesnt travel in a straight path and Goku (as shown in the scan I just presented) can dodge super fast blast coming at him at close range.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThor drew his hammer.Thats it.
How it looks should have nothing to do with it if it's being stated to be that speed. They draw the Flash in comics with blurs regardless of him moving subsonic, supersonic, or at lightspeed. It's artistic rendition.And how is it not combat? They thought he was the damn Juggernaut and we're intent on kicking his ass.
Originally posted by carver9
Those blast that you named doesnt travel in a straight path and Goku (as shown in the scan I just presented) can dodge super fast blast coming at him at close range.
Yes, they do. He can aim them, but once they're fired, they travel in a straight path.
And Thor doesn't need to dodge them when Mjolnir just absorbs them or shields him from the blast.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankvegeta aint gonna stand there and get drained...he gets the drop on thor way earlier than thor would think to drain ki...which is not a very likely option
How does Vegeta engage him in hand to hand and win when Thor drains him of his ki, which Mjolnir can and will detect?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How does Vegeta engage him in hand to hand and win when Thor drains him of his ki, which Mjolnir can and will detect?
I agree with this. I just cant see him doing this 10/10. Hell, I cant see Thor doing this at all since he likes to fight. Answer this, reflex wise do you think Thor is faster than Jeice and Burta combined?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, they do. He can aim them, but once they're fired, they travel in a straight path.And Thor doesn't need to dodge them when Mjolnir just absorbs them or shields him from the blast.
I can easily prove you wrong. I can post a scan where Goku has an energy attack chasing Raditz.
Originally posted by carver9Him not being nearly as fast as SS vegeta and not having enough energy or strength to put thor down.Also thor has that energy absorption thing.
What powerset of Thors are you referring to that would give him the nods over black hair Vegeta?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankAnd vegeta just stands there?Vegeta is fast enough to get out of the range of mjolnir...man I still don't know how to spell thors hammers name.But thor isn't draining his ki.Not strait up.An energy attack yes mabye(I figure a ki blast or two might connect if he fires a few hundred).But thor isn't just going to point mjolnir at him and drain/beat him.
How does Vegeta engage him in hand to hand and win when Thor drains him of his ki, which Mjolnir can and will detect?
Originally posted by Starscream M
vegeta aint gonna stand there and get drained...he gets the drop on thor way earlier than thor would think to drain ki...which is not a very likely option
He won't really have a choice.
When Mjolnir detects the massive well of energy Vegeta has within him, yes, Thor is going to drain it and send it back at his face. If Vegeta suppresses his power level, he's going to get rocked because he's holding back. If he goes crazy from the onset, it prompts Thor to start busting his plot device exotic powers.
Vegeta doesn't have the stamina or power output to outlast Thor here before Thor resorts to the tactic he's been shown multiple times of doing to win.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankit would be completely out of character for thor to drain vegeta at the onset
He won't really have a choice.When Mjolnir detects the massive well of energy Vegeta has within him, yes, Thor is going to drain it and send it back at his face. If Vegeta suppresses his power level, he's going to get rocked because he's holding back. If he goes crazy from the onset, it prompts Thor to start busting his plot device exotic powers.
Vegeta doesn't have the stamina or power output to outlast Thor here before Thor resorts to the tactic he's been shown multiple times of doing to win.
he also wouldn't really know how powerful vegeta is...nor is he gonna take vegeta's boasts at face value.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Him not being nearly as fast as SS vegeta and not having enough energy or strength to put thor down.Also thor has that energy absorption thing. And vegeta just stands there?Vegeta is fast enough to get out of the range of mjolnir...man I still don't know how to spell thors hammers name.But thor isn't draining his ki.Not strait up.An energy attack yes mabye(I figure a ki blast or two might connect if he fires a few hundred).But thor isn't just going to point mjolnir at him and drain/beat him.
WHo said Vegeta has to just stand there? And considering how efficient and quickly Mjolnir works, even if he doesn't get all of his energy in one sitting, he's going to feel the effects of it which will in turn weaken Vegeta enough for Thor to do the same easier next time. Every tactic Vegeta has to do here in order to attempt to beat Thor requires energy, however minute. Thor, on the other hand, doesn't have to tap into his own energy to offensively engage Vegeta. Considering he can summon rain powerful enough to restrict a pissed off Hulk whose strength and durabilty amp continuously, Vegeta's not going to be able to effectively use that speed to the point of overwhelming Thor.
He has too many options here where as Vegeta has one course of action to successfully get the majority on Thor, which is melee.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Him not being nearly as fast as SS vegeta and not having enough energy or strength to put thor down.Also thor has that energy absorption thing. And vegeta just stands there?Vegeta is fast enough to get out of the range of mjolnir...man I still don't know how to spell thors hammers name.But thor isn't draining his ki.Not strait up.An energy attack yes mabye(I figure a ki blast or two might connect if he fires a few hundred).But thor isn't just going to point mjolnir at him and drain/beat him.
I cant believe you just said Black hair Vegeta isnt strong enough. What if I showed you Vegeta punching something that weighed tonnes a couple of feat destroying it with just a flick of his arm. I already told you that black hair Gohun was moving his feat up and down creating a city wide earth quake. Then we have black hair Gohun who is much weaker than Vegeta lifting a 300 passenger plane up with one arm. Then we have punching Goku through mountains during the saiyan saga. Then we have Frieza who is much weaker punching Goku so hard that it was creating shock waves across namek that sent bulma flying for miles.
Vegeta not having enough energy as black hair Vegeta? WOW. I could have sworn that a teen Vegeta was about to destroy earth with an attack. How much energy do you think is needed to drop Thor. I also cant believe that you said Black hair Vegeta isnt fast enough when we clearly again have someone much slower than Vegeta dodging blast so fast that it appears that he isnt even moving.
Originally posted by Starscream M
it would be completely out of character for thor to drain vegeta at the onsethe also wouldn't really know how powerful vegeta is...nor is he gonna take vegeta's boasts at face value.
And it would be OOC for Vegeta to restrict himself to pure hand to hand. And I doubt Vegeta's ego and arrogance will let him do anything but allow Thor countless advantages in the fight just to prove a point.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Who has greater warrior pride(just out of curiosity)?
To the point of doing stupid shit?
Vegeta BY FAR.
Thor's pride rarely endangers innocent people or cause him to risk victory just for the sake of a fight. He's been pushed to those points, yet, but Vegeta's rampant egomanical tendencies have screwed him over constantly in DBZ.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He won't really have a choice.When Mjolnir detects the massive well of energy Vegeta has within him, yes, Thor is going to drain it and send it back at his face. If Vegeta suppresses his power level, he's going to get rocked because he's holding back. If he goes crazy from the onset, it prompts Thor to start busting his plot device exotic powers.
Vegeta doesn't have the stamina or power output to outlast Thor here before Thor resorts to the tactic he's been shown multiple times of doing to win.
Why dont you think Vegeta have the stamina and Thor isnt tanking Vegeta attacks?
Vegeta can cover the distance almost instantly and be all over Thor before he had the time to do any of what you've mentioned.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankhe would usually start a fight with melee. imo the fight would be over before he needs to resort to energy attacks.
And it would be OOC for Vegeta to restrict himself to pure hand to hand. And I doubt Vegeta's ego and arrogance will let him do anything but allow Thor countless advantages in the fight just to prove a point.
even if he did, thor would deal with it with sufficient ease that vegeta would quickly realize energy attacks is not the way to win.